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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'JRE MMA Show #175 with Shakur Stevenson' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2026-03-06. Transcript available.

JRE MMA Show #175 with Shakur Stevenson

Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out.
The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
Well, anyway, thanks for coming down here, man.
Appreciate it.
And congratulations on that standout performance against Tiafemo.
Because that was a giant wake-up call for the entirety of boxing.
The level that you're on, was it so high that you could be in there with a
world champion,
a world champion, and make him look, a guy who beat, I mean, legit guys,
including Lomachenko.
It was a big victory for him.
And you made him look like he had no business in there.
Honestly, it's just hard work, dedication, and God-given ability.
God-given ability.
I think you have all that, plus intelligence, plus you start a real young.
And there's something about those dudes who start real young.
You grow up with that.
It's like in your central nervous system as you're a young child.
Yeah.
I mean, would you start boxing at like five?
I started boxing at five.
But honestly, you could say the same for Tio too, because he kind of started at
like seven.
We both was kind of similar in like experience.
But I just feel like with me, the God-given ability of my instincts always kick
in.
When we fought, I felt like my brain just knew how to win.
Like it just, everything was just like my instincts kicked in and everything
just took over.
Like I didn't even, it felt like an out-of-body experience.
Well, you're a very tactical guy.
Like, you know, there's a thing, one of the things I love about watching you
fight is I love watching a guy who sets traps and who avoids damage.
And you are one of the absolute very best ever at setting traps and avoid
damage.
You take so few punches in your fights.
Yeah.
There was that one fight where you decided, recent fight, where you decided to
stand with that dude.
Who was that?
William Zepeda.
That's right.
Zepeda's a tough guy, man.
He is.
But you fought that in a different way.
Did you do that on purpose?
It was partly on purpose and partly to get his respect.
Because I really didn't have a choice but to get his respect.
Because if I had to try to out-box him and move him around the ring, I probably
would have made the fight harder than it had to be.
So I knew, like, I got to, like, make him respect me early.
And that's what I kind of, like, started the fight.
Hot.
Why would it make it harder than it had to be if you boxed him?
Because sometimes when you, like, a guy, like, if you watch today's boxing,
judges give the fight to mostly the guys that's coming forward.
So if I'd have went in there and bagging up and moving around the ring while he
was more active, it probably would have looked as though he's winning the fight.
So I had to make sure, like, the judges know who's winning.
So I kind of had to take some in order to give some in that fight.
That was a very unusual fight for you.
I saw an interview with you after that fight.
We were like, I'm not fighting like that again.
Fuck that.
Yeah, because I know, like, I see, like, the modern day, like, the old school
boxers and, like, the punishment that they taking.
And you'll see them today.
They can't really talk as well as, like, like the Andre Wars and the Floyd Mayweather
who can talk good and still articulate things to their grandparents, to their
grandchildren, to their children.
And for me personally, it's like I want to make sure that I'm able to really
speak well to my kids and my grandkids and all of that.
So taking punishment ain't for me.
Yeah.
I support that 100% and I applaud fighters like you for setting an example for
young fighters coming up.
Like, defense and tactics and understanding the game is the most important
thing.
These guys that want to put on an entertaining fight and just go in there and
slug it out, like, man, you are giving up your brain for some people who don't
give a fuck about you.
Oh, my God.
That's the God's honest truth right there.
I be seeing a lot of fighters nowadays where they stand there, like, punching
bags and let people hit on them.
And you'll see them after the fight they marked up.
And in a few years, I don't think that they're going to be able to speak as
well as, like, somebody like me.
No, there's a bunch of examples of that, obviously.
We could all see it.
But, you know, it's a complicated sport.
And for people that don't understand the sport and don't appreciate the sport,
they just see two dudes punching each other.
But they don't see subtle movements.
And you were doing this, like, half-out jab and then popping him with it.
And you could tell he had no idea it was coming.
It was so frustrating for Tiafemo.
I was watching, I was like, there was a bunch of times where I was watching, I
just was yelling out by myself in my house going, woo!
That check right hook, ooh!
It was so pretty, man.
You hit him with some pretty shot.
But it was just, you were just tuning him up.
It was a beautiful performance, man, because it was everything that I love in
boxing.
Skill, movement, understanding, ring IQ, knowing what's happening.
And every time he would get fired up and try to take it to you, the most he
could do is touch your body.
Yeah.
That's all he was able to do.
Honestly, for me personally, I feel like I'm, like, the best fighter in boxing.
And I don't, like, mean this in no disrespectful way because I got a lot of
fighters in boxing that I still watch to this day that I like.
And I'm like, okay, they, I'm still there.
So, I'm, Usyk, I love Usyk.
I love Usyk.
I love Bavar.
I love them Eastern European styles.
But, for me, like, I just feel like I'm a fighter that can do it all.
Like, I can do it all.
Like, whatever needs to be done to get the job done, I can do that.
So, some nights you might see I might outbox people.
Then some nights I might stand there and beat a guy up and beat them at their
own game.
So, I think, for me, I'm the most complete fighter in boxing.
Well, that mindset is what you need, especially in a sport where you've
dominated divisions.
Yeah.
Right?
So, if you've dominated divisions and you're still looking to achieve a higher
level, you can't just look at the guys that are your competitors.
Yeah.
Because at 135, it was so hard for you to get fights.
Yeah.
At 140 now, what are you going to do?
You just do that to Tiafemo?
It scared a lot of people.
Yeah.
No one wants to look stupid.
I mean, Tiafemo has had some good fights in the past and he's lost in the past.
But he's never looked out of place.
Yeah.
And he looked out of place in that fight.
It's crazy, though, because when I seen him, when he fought in New York on the
Times Square card, I'm like, man, this dude is nice.
Like, I'm sitting there, I'm like, whoa.
Like, I couldn't believe, like, how good he was.
But it kind of, like, just made me get up.
Like, I'm like, okay, I want to.
Yeah.
I want to see, like, what he can do with me.
Right.
Because the way he made Arnold Barboza look in New York was, like, he just made
him look like he's not on his level.
Well, he wasn't on his level.
But then Tiafemo's not on your level.
Yeah.
I mean, this is the beautiful thing about competitive sports, especially boxing.
This one-on-one, which I think is the purest form of competition, boxing and
MMA, is that you can show that as great as a fighter is, like, people could
watch the Tiafemo fight and have no idea how good he is.
Yeah, for sure.
And I would say, go watch the Barboza fight, go watch the Lomachenko fight, go
watch many of his fights.
The guy was an excellent fighter.
Yep.
Still is an excellent fighter.
Yeah.
But there are levels.
Yes.
And the mindset that you have, I am the best fighter in the world, period, is
what allows you to beat guys like that, that and the hard work.
For sure.
Like I said, I'm God-given, and I work super hard, and I think the biggest
thing that I don't get credit for is my discipline.
Like, I feel like I'm very disciplined when it comes down to making the
sacrifices and making the life changes that I need to make in order to be 100%
on fight night.
And I feel like a lot of people don't give me – I mean, they don't know.
They don't know.
That's all it is.
You know, I be seeing, like, fans tweet, and they be like, oh, get off Twitter
or get off social media.
But I'll be on social media, like, right after I just left the gym.
I'm like, what's the problem?
Like, I'm just talking my talk on social media right now.
Like, let me live.
Well, people are always looking to criticize.
For sure.
But there's no way you can have the kind of performances that you're having.
And not be locked in.
And not be locked in.
Yeah.
It's not possible, especially over 12 rounds.
Yeah, for sure.
Because, I mean, you know better than anybody alive that the kind of discipline
that it takes to be in the kind of condition that you have to be in to fight 12
hard rounds.
They put on a virtuoso performance.
So it's like, dun, dun, dun.
It's crazy, though.
Everybody, like, like, y'all love the performance because y'all got to see it
that day.
But, like, for me, when I'm in the gym, it's still levels that I feel like I
haven't got to shown to the world.
Like, I kind of only really shown, like, 70% of, like, what I really could do.
And I feel like with that performance, it was just like, okay, this is, this is
like an okay day in the gym.
Like, an okay day.
It ain't, like, my best day in the gym.
Like, I have, like, days in the gym where I'm like, ooh.
I don't know how I just did that, but I'm just, like, on point.
So it was a good day, though.
Well, the thing is, you're getting better.
Yeah, for sure.
You know, that's the thing.
It's like those days that you have in the gym and this performance and the
mindset that you have, like, it's still not saying I did it all.
Not saying, okay, virtuoso performance, still only 70% of what you're capable
of.
So that's what takes a guy from being a very good fighter to being an all-time
great.
And it's a matter of maintaining that over years and years and years that is so
difficult for people.
And discipline is where that comes in.
Enthusiasm and motivation is great in the beginning.
A lot of people have enthusiasm and motivation in the beginning, but it's, when
you've been a champ for five years, six years, you know, the grind of it all.
The 12-week training camp away from your family.
People don't think about that.
Yeah, that's why I'm kind of glad that I got all of the things that happened in
my career where I had a little trials and tribulations happened early.
So when I had my hand problem and I had, like, a fight where I didn't perform
as well as I wanted to, it kind of got me prepared for, like, now.
Now it's, like, I'm 100% on top of my game.
Like, you're not going to be able to, like, beat me without me being, like,
fully prepared.
Like, you're going to have to be a bad dude to come in the ring and beat me,
like, because I just don't see it happening with none of these guys.
Well, it's, like, how far you've gone, right?
Like, you started off at five and been intensely focused for all these years.
How old are you now?
Twenty-eight.
Twenty-eight.
Which is prime.
Yeah.
That's it.
Like, 28 to, like, 34 is the best year.
But then again, you look at Terrence.
I mean, he's at an age where a lot of people say it's over and he put on the
performance of his career against Canelo.
I don't know how he do it.
He's, like, a different human being.
He's so smart.
If I'm honest, he is, like, the reason – I'm not going to say he the reason
why I am who I am today, but he brought my game from, like, where it was at to,
like, a very high level.
And he don't even realize, like, he done that.
Like, me just being in the gym, able to watch him and pick up on, like, the
little things that he doing, his bad days, his good days, his – I'm seeing
everything.
Like, when he come out there on fight night, how prepared and how ready, how
confident.
Like, honestly, that dude kind of – he put me into a whole different world
now to where I'm, like, oh, I can beat anybody.
I get in ther