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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #2481 - Duncan Trussell' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2026-04-09. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #2481 - Duncan Trussell

Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out.
The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
All right, we're good, we're good.
We had a slight issue, slight technical glitch.
Glitch.
What were we just talking about?
We were talking about that if you hum a tune.
Oh, right, right.
That you will get dinged.
Yeah, you'll get flagged on YouTube.
If you just hum a sound from a song.
Yeah.
Like the beginning bars of a song.
Yeah, you can't, I wonder how far that goes.
Like, could it get to the point where an AI could hear you humming it in your
car or something?
Like, how far does the protection of music go?
Well, it's, you're not generating revenue from your car, right?
So the thing is, you're generating revenue from a podcast.
And their logic is, if you hum, what is that song?
The Sunshine of My Love, is that what it is?
Yeah.
You know, that song that I always hum to associate with people being high out
of their fucking mind?
You know, it goes, you can't say it.
You can't do it.
If I did that, we would get dinged, which is so crazy.
And we were just saying, like, if you quoted a Scarface movie, would Brian De
Palma get all the money?
If you said, say hello to that bad guy, would Brian De Palma get that money?
I don't think so.
I think you're allowed to quote stuff.
That is Brian De Palma, right?
Scarface, wasn't it?
Yeah.
I don't want to fuck that up.
I think so.
You know those auditors that go around and film people and people get mad
because they're like, don't film me.
And they're like, I can film whatever the fuck I want.
Right.
And they inevitably some like boomer freaks out and smacks them with a cane and
then they get a million views.
And it's just a trap.
It's a trap.
It's a trap.
It's because inevitably someone lose their mind on them and then that gets a
ton of views.
One of the ways people are dealing with that supposedly is playing music, like
playing copyrighted music during the interaction.
Oh my God, that's hilarious.
Because so then they can't make money off of it.
It's a shield.
It's a shield if someone's trolling you.
You just start playing copyrighted music.
Did you hear that the CIA has admitted that the way they found the pilot was
because of his heart rate?
Ghost murmur.
That's the name of the tech.
Okay.
We got to look into this.
Like this is fucking, this is science fiction.
Yeah, it's wild.
This is full minority report.
It's crazy.
Science fiction level technology.
It's AI.
They can find a guy's heart rate.
So what I read is that it's, I didn't understand the science part, something to
do with crystals or I don't know what the fuck it is.
But AI can, is somehow interpreting, is taking out the noise.
And then you can, from far away, they can find this guy's fucking heartbeat, he's
hiding in some kind of crevice, and then they're able to go and extract him.
And then, dude, obviously the first thing I thought, what else don't they tell
us?
No, those robot dogs.
I thought about those things having that tech and just like hearing heartbeats
and then identify, heartbeats has a lot about a person.
Are they sleeping, are they sleeping, are they like in good shape, bad shape,
you can learn so much from a heartbeat.
It could, ghost murmur.
Oh my god.
Fucking great name too.
It's a great name.
Ghost murmur.
What sick fuck invented this?
How do you even think about inventing this?
You, you just, I, you know, the CIA, they've been taking psychedelics forever.
What is that word?
Quantum magnetometry.
Artificial intelligence with long range quantum, quantum magnetometry.
What the fuck is that?
Quantum means two things to me.
When someone says quantum, it either means you're a bullshit artist.
Yes.
And you're trying to get me with flim flam talk.
Or it means you're an actual quantum scientist, a quantum physicist who's going
to blow my mind with what we know about like entanglement and the weird shit.
There's this, there's this woman that I've been watching her, um, she has this,
uh, speech on, I think it's big think.
I'll tell you her name.
Uh, but it, she's like completely freaking me out.
She's talking, I want to say her name because.
I'll, I'll leave, I don't want to leave away this ghost murmur thing.
That's another key point.
That's fun.
Oh, we'll get right to it.
Michelle Fowler, that's her name.
And she's, uh, an astrophysicist and she's, she's giving this talk about like
what we know about, like she's studying binary star systems and stuff.
And she gives this talk about, she's explaining like that there may be a tech
in the future where there is no distance between two points.
So the, the ability to travel instantaneously from position to position, just
like quantum entangled photons.
Yeah, but with people?
With everything.
How?
Who the fuck knows how a cell phone works?
You tell me how you're FaceTiming me when you're in Australia.
How does that work?
That sounds insane.
Yeah, that's fucking insane.
For what you, well, you probably know a lot more about cameras than I do.
No, I don't.
But from what I know about cameras, if you tried to get me to explain, like if
the civilization ended and I said, we used to be able to capture images on a
small thing.
Yeah, like this, the size of a, like a, right, a twig.
Yeah.
And it sits in your pocket.
Right.
Exactly.
What are you talking about?
Right.
God, that'd be, you know, cause it's just.
It's a deck of cards and it'll keep a battery for 24 hours.
You could go on YouTube and get an answer to any question you want about
anything.
Yeah.
Instantaneously.
And if you don't like the way you look, you can upload that image and a machine
will make you look slightly better via something called artificial intelligence.
Like, what the fuck?
What was the one I sent you today where there's like a potential lawsuit with
chat GPT?
You only sent me the ghost murmur thing.
I didn't send you the other one?
Did I send it to you?
You sent it to me.
The shoot, the shooting was planned using chat GPT.
I don't know if that's true.
So we should be like really careful.
Yeah, that doesn't sound.
It sounds so crazy.
It doesn't sound like you could do that.
That sounds like the story.
So like I wanted to investigate because the story sounds like if I wanted to
kill an AI company,
I would make up a story like that.
It does sound like that.
Family of men killed in shooting Florida State University to sue chat GPT.
May have.
May have advised the shooter.
On how to carry out shootings.
But that may have is important.
Yeah, that's really important, right?
And what is this on?
The Guardian?
The shooter was in constant communication with chat GPT out of the shooting.
The chat bot may have advised.
Okay.
Dude, there's no way.
So that's clickbait because all that's really saying is that the kid uses chat
GPT, which
guess what?
Every kid uses chat GPT.
Every kid.
And dude, chat GPT is so stringent.
Like recently, and I've been using their codex, which builds apps.
And I was trying to, and it worked.
I made an AI trained on Charles Manson transcripts.
And when I told it, when I told it I wanted to do that, it was like, fuck off.
Like, no, it was like, it just flat out.
I was like, I'm not helping you with that.
So I don't, there's no way the guardrails in place in chat GPT planned a
shooting with
that guy based on my experience with it.
Because it won't 80% of the things I try to get it to do.
It's like, no.
Here's the thing, though.
Are there workarounds?
Like if you say you're writing a work of fiction.
You can, okay, it's called prompt injection.
There's different tricks you can use.
They're always battling these new mechanisms that you can use to like, get
through the
general prompt.
But the best way to do unaligned AI is not to use chat GPT.
It's to go on Olama and download a local LLM.
And then you can usually change the initial prompt of the LLM so that it will
be completely
unaligned, which I had to do for the Charles Manson AI I made.
I had to download.
Dude, you're such a nerd.
I love it.
I am.
I am.
No one has embraced new technology for creating content like you.
Oh, I love it.
It's the best.
It's so fun.
It's so, for me, the most thrilling thing about it is we should not have access
to this
tech.
This tech is so dangerous.
And it's chilling to think about.
This is something I wanted to bring up on this show.
It's like, you know, the old days, you go in your garage, you work on your car,
maybe you
build like a table, you know, you're a carpenter, you work on a, but these days,
the shit people
are doing in their garages right now is a big question mark, dude.
Because they're communicating with varying degrees of this AI, depending on how
fast their computers
are.
And you can, I was listening to this, you should have this dude on, he wrote
this book, The
Coming Wave.
He, he was one of the people who created Google's Deep Mind, right?
And The Coming Wave is just a wonderful breakdown of historic examples of new
technology, completely
transforming humanity.
It's happened before.
Yeah.
Mustafa Suleyman.
And damn, it's a good book.
And this guy is saying, whoa, put on the fucking brakes, dude, what are you
doing?
This shit is going to fuck everything up.
And so, but they, the, the essential problem is if you regulate AI, it slows
down, uh, it
slows down AI.
And so they're, they've deregulated it completely.
And now assholes like me who don't know shit about coding can now go on Codex.
It will tell me how to make things.
Cause I wanted this Charles Manson to be able to push its AI face against like,
you know,
those, you used to get them at Spencer gifts, those, those nails that you could
push your
face into.
So I wanted the AI to be able to push its face into this thing while it was
talking, if it
wanted to, I don't know how to do that.
Obviously you tell Codex that as long as you don't mention Manson, it just is
like, I'll
start making the app now.
It is the best.
It's the best.
But also that what's thrilling to me is you're like, for sure, for sure.
People probably shouldn't have unlimited access to this.
I'm against regulation, dude, but this stuff, when you pair, and this is what
in this book
he, he brings up is you can order the equipment you need to do gene editing
right now in your,
in your garage.
Let me propose this to you.
Okay.
If the Bible is, if the Bible is a written understanding of what had happened
and it was
an oral tradition for a long time before it was written down, there's a bunch
of different
versions of it written down in different languages, a lot of translations.
But at the beginning of it, they were trying to say something.
What if the meek will inherit the earth?
What if we misinterpreted that?
What if we thought like, it's good to be meek.
The meek shall be, they'll inherit the earth.
Yeah.
The kind.
There's something about the word meek.
Yeah.
Because that's the nerds.
Okay.
And they are doing it.
They are inheriting the fucking earth.
Yeah.
Right in front of your face and everybody's signing up for it.
Yeah.
You've got these spectrumy, super genius dudes.
Yeah.
That talk in a language that 99.9% of the people can't even fucking understand
what they're
talking about.
Right.
You know?
Yeah.
And also now the tech has gotten to a point where instead of having to, in
their own minds,
innovate ways to improve the tech, the tech is improving itself.
They're having conversations with the tech that's saying, why don't you try
this?
Maybe you could try this.
There's still, it's not AGI yet.
Maybe it is, but apparently it's not.
But think about the people that are profiting the most from it.
The meek.
Well.
Like if you, if you had to describe like a lot of tech engineers, it's not, it's
not,
not, not trying to be rude.
Just being honest.
Right.
A lot of guys that spend time in front of the computer, they're very thin and
tired.
You know, they're, they're, they're super genius dudes that can like fully
focus.
I don't know, man.
I don't know if the description for these, but it's not, but here's the thing.
What I