Name: Thursday Afternoon Monday Morning Podcast 3-28-19
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Thursday Afternoon Monday Morning Podcast 3-28-19' from Bill Burr on Comedy Buff. Published 2019-03-28. Transcript available.

Thursday Afternoon Monday Morning Podcast 3-28-19

right uh we ready all right hey what's going on it's bill burr and it's time
for the thursday
afternoon just before friday monday morning podcast and i don't know i've just
been getting
a bunch of guests lately it's time for another special one and i got another
legend another
legend here i got the one and only stephen perkins from jane's addiction hi
bill porno
for pirates infectious grooves yeah and your latest project uh the think
experience which
we will be getting into uh first off thank you so much for doing this i've been
a uh a huge fan
you've already been talking and what happens when you uh right before you do a
podcast it's like dude
just save that try and save that yeah say nothing yeah say nothing just let it
flow let the levy break
yes when the mic is on yes so um we were talking about uh basically the
influence of the internet
and how good these these kids are at playing now but how it's like almost like
they all grew up in
the same town absolutely yeah because everyone could just kind of go on youtube
and if there's
some sick kid in minnesota you didn't have to live there to see him you just
put it on and you watch
it and then his influence goes into where you are and then it's so widespread
so quickly yeah and there
was such a fine romantic feeling to find a drummer or a record and fall in love
with it and learn how to
play it no one else knew what you were working on right you're home alone it
could have been a
coltrane it could have been van halen right could have been both at the same
time you know and try
to kind of fuse this hybrid of yourself alone and the romance of a drumstick
and and and the rhythm
how did you how did you come like about your style like like blew my mind when
i first heard you i
missed the first few jane's albums because i was i was you know neck deep and
and and hair metal and
all that and um when ritual came out it's just like that was the the first time
i really heard somebody
with uh uh that kind of music just the sound of that and just all the snare
displacement and all
that it just it just wasn't that approach yeah of like all right two and fours
the snare and then i'm
gonna do some syncopated and absolutely you know the bass does this and i'm
gonna follow with my foot
and you just had it was completely it was like almost upside down like how how
did you arrive
at that well i was i think the great drummers have great musicians around them
and that brings
the the competition in the jam room brings better performances out of each
other so i was ultra aware
of technique and chops but i knew that really wasn't my forte i didn't want to
be a fast lightning drummer
and i didn't really find a place for that in the music i loved my early love
was jazz buddy rich gene
crupa elvin jones but no one in los angeles played trumpet saxophone even piano
right no one even played
bass everyone played guitar so then what are you going to do you're going to
bite into rock and roll but
that swung right award from the sabbath bonham and then i started to check out
what the pocket
of motown meant and how that influenced ringo and charlie and ginger baker and
they were playing these
motown beats but surrounded by great songwriters right and so this this fusion
this hybrid of jazz
swinging and the flash of rock and roll and then i kind of hit a ceiling i was
bored i didn't know what
other record to buy genesis rush i bought everything then i sent you know i
found through the beatles
probably indian tabla rhythms and that opened the door to african rhythms which
was fela kuti
and baba tundi ala tunji jesus okay so you went deep i have no idea what these
records were just as
important as the the abbey road record i tried to make that impression on
myself let those records
be become part of how important the rhythm can be not just these great songs
that you grew up with
listen to new rhythms and so those rhythms started to infuse my creative side
and then i joined the
marching band in you know in high school right so everyone had chops yeah and
everyone was competitive
wanted first chair and everyone was showing what they had the flash so that it
could be bad for your
playing creatively but it's good for your endurance and your confidence so how
did so how did you when
were you mature enough when you went in there to see that this isn't what it's
about where it's like
i would compare that in uh i've done a little bit of acting work and and i've
few very rarely but a few
times i've gotten into a scene with somebody and as silly as this sounds they
get in like i'm going to
outact you yeah exactly rather than hey we're doing this together let's you
know let's let's work together
yeah they get in there like i'm i'm going to out create you it's a there's a
tennis match that's
going on but you can't always ace the guy because there's no match you want to
rally right so you do
want to once in a while just you know slam it in ping pong but you can't slam
it every time let's play
let's rally let's laugh let's yeah communicate and i think growing up in navarro
at 15 on it was my
love affair with you know guitar and drums i didn't know much about bass and
the rhythm section yet
because no one played bass so i always wanted to match the guitar i always
heard that if you played
bass you could get into like 20 bands immediately yeah we did nobody wanted to
give you the drums or
guitarist you could not find one you know right so but i i think when the band
jane's actually kind of
to become aware of our our what was important was the lyrics and the phrasing
and he's not going to
sing like this hair metal thing where you sing it four times and then you sing
the next thing four times
it's not going to rhyme it doesn't rhyme he says something once and then we
react and then he says
something three times and then he says and then you punch it behind them and
then you know and then
so it's a poem with song and then you know so i think we started to become
ultra aware of how
it's an emotional performance it's real estate where are you going to place
yourself
and who are you going to get out of the way of
you know where are you going to where are you going to put plant and almost
like a monopoly game
you go over and over then you buy boardwalk and then you put a house on it then
you put a hotel
on it you make your event more worthy when you guys were like when you guys
were going in that
direction because he means so much of it is you know you want to make it i mean
you don't want to
be homeless you know and what you guys were doing was so different despite when
i listened to you
know you know a lot of your influences were the stuff that those guys that i
was listening to
the metal years were listening to when you start to make that departure of like
like this does not
sound like what they're what you know that big thing what they're looking for
like what are you
looking for man what's the look this is what was going on 85 the the strip was
coming to an end motley
rat poison it was already ending then they all been signed and it was
repetitive redundant
derivative of each other jane's addiction would go downtown and there was x and
the minute men
the chili peppers and fishbone and they weren't successful as far as getting
signed to a major
they kind of hit a ceiling the punk rock ceiling flag was there you know fear
it was circle jerks
it was fantastic but they weren't going to get any bigger i remember x got a
song in the charlie sheen
movie the baseball movie and i was like oh yeah yeah yeah x got a song in the
movie doesn't make any
sense because punk rock hit a ceiling so there was that moment where metal was
done punk rock post-punk
so in your world metal was done in 85 yeah it was already done it was gone in
my world it didn't end so
93 exactly it was still important but as a player and a creative right as a it's
trying to turn the
key a little and change i didn't want to be tommy lee anymore you know there
was a moment what would
you watch like because uh like say you know you were still a kid so mtv was so
huge to our generation
and and you know this scene is over yeah and and right as you're saying it's
over mtv is just blowing
blowing it up to the next level and to the point remember when they they would
do like the top 10
and it was like other than like a paula abdul and a janet jackson michael jackson
like they they could
break in um george michael those people but the rest of it was all pretty much
hair metal yeah videos
not not civil or pedestrian but safe in our opinion and completely produced and
just a machine
so what would you watch was there some was there a cool mtv out there that you
were watching or we
would go dig out at which i was you know eric and perry which were almost 10
years older than me and
dave they would help us realize the importance of joy division and bauhaus and
new order and echo
and susie do you know i'm just discovering joy division now it's like almost 40
years later
that kind of simple storytelling because me and navarro were about van halen we
wanted to show off
they wanted to tell a story like those guys and cinematic set a scene and just
tell the let the
lyrics speak and of course me and dave were still 18 we can play watch this
right and that's what
the world needed the metal that's what l.a needed and it went global but it was
the end of metal end of
punk you know even the chilies and fishbone had records out and our very first
tunes before ritual
dare i say influenced l.a funk idiots rule pigs and zen right doo doo right it
was chili
pet could have been with the chili peppers show or a fishbone show and then we
started to find our
storytelling and our and i think our best moment back then was then she did on
ritual when the lyric
like i was saying the lyric doesn't go four times and the music doesn't go
three times behind it
it's just that second side of that album i learned how to meditate i swear to
god i used to put it on
it's a lift off yeah and i would put it i would put it uh and i was really it
was like the first time
of my life i was realizing that i was up because i looked like ron howard my
family looked like the
brady bunch we went to church every week and i thought hey you know i got this
off and i was
uh you know i went to work i was a good worker and all that and it wasn't until
uh that and it's that
weird thing i was right around 21 22 and that's right when you're supposed to
be done with college
you're supposed to know what you want you're on your way to your dream or
whatever put everything
else behind you and move on yeah yeah and i felt i was just sort of like
floating like what the
like that whole part of my life is done college just went by i'm still a
freshman basically now what
what the am i doing and um i don't know that's my issues started coming up so
well the the ritual
record even though it was the end of the band was the this what you're hearing
is us on tour
and shaving all the parts and playing them live and becoming an emotional
organism and then that's the documentation of what we sounded like and it was
if we had a great
manager he would have said take a year off i see a future we had a good manager
just like you guys
are gonna break up break up you know he wanted what was now we didn't give it
to him so we didn't
have any guidance but right infectious came immediately i was in hawaii those
guys showed up
robert and you know arbitrary here and mike muir they're going on tour with ozzy
in two weeks i'm
in a new band so i didn't even think it was the wrong choice to break up but i
right why would
something so beautiful and colorful just call quits no take a break and maybe
you know like any hot
relationship maybe take a break and then maybe see if it's still worthy but we
didn't have any yeah
a little space and then maybe have a date night and hey see if we still like
each other i mean i
i'm so happy how the the porno for pyro sound became something that was
different and we were able to
gro