Name: Thursday Afternoon Monday Morning Podcast 10-17-19
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Thursday Afternoon Monday Morning Podcast 10-17-19' from Bill Burr on Comedy Buff. Published 2019-10-18. Transcript available.

Thursday Afternoon Monday Morning Podcast 10-17-19

hey what's going on it's bill burr and it's time for the thursday afternoon
just before friday
monday morning podcast and i'm just now i'm not just checking in on you i
usually have just
checking in on you seeing how your work week's going the cubicle battles and
all of that shit
but uh every once in a while we have a special guest and this is one of these
thursdays we have
the one and only steve gorman drummer from the black crows uh drummer drummer
with trigger hippie
that has a new album out called full circle and he's here to promote his new
book which i mentioned
got an advanced copy you did old hollywood bill over the summer it's called
hard to handle
the uh life and death of the black crows and uh welcome thank you it's a
pleasure to be with you
sir and i gotta tell you dude uh i've read i'm not a big reader here we go i am
not a big reader here
we go and i have read uh you know i read autobiographies like ken stabler what
does it say
about me that most people that like the book go first of all i don't read much
yeah yeah yeah your
book yes i know it's probably i'm waiting for the reading people to tell me it's
good yeah but the
non-readers i got them you got me so i've read a bunch of rock dogs all the way
back i think one
of the first ones ever read was like hammer of the gods which is just a total
yeah shit show it was a
horseshit fucking book saying how they want the devil and all that and i've did
this this i'm telling you
this is the one as far as like if everybody you know they read the books to see
hey what was it
really like yeah yeah did they get along and all of that and i gotta tell you
man the fucking vibe
of this book i just felt like i was friends with you for 20 years we were in a
pub everybody had
cleared out and you just let it out because it's just like there's so many epic
lines yeah the one
where the jimmy page thing falls apart you just go i'm not gonna say names or
anything like that was
i mean i go read it up enough go get the shit but it's just like the jimmy page
thing falls apart like
the way that you tell that story when you were going to the payphone it was at
hyde park in london
it was just like i just felt like i was like oh my god this guy if somebody
asked some directions
might murder somebody and i just got to say you know as far as like you know
when guys write these books
because you know there's always been these this band is done it's fucking over
we're signing contracts and
all this shit and then there's always that you know the farewell tour is sort
of a big joke
yeah in music and so i always feel like when i read these books that there's
always that feeling of
hope well maybe the band's going to get back together so i got i can't quite
tell it the way i would tell
it yeah no if i had a few pops in me but uh i don't feel that with this book
steve i well you know
i i'm not going back let me put it that way i mean i'm not you know there's uh
there was not a
thankfully when the band blew up in 2014 and for the reason we blew up which
was our singer decided
after 27 years i'll just demand all the money that i don't know how you go back
from that you know i
don't know for me personally no that's that's done we're done like there's not
a chance in hell
that you're gonna up you're gonna upend the apple cart like that how does it
happen where like
when the band starts out i always feel like you guys it always seems like with
the bands you guys
are just starving you're riding in one van you just you're like this platoon
with this common goal
let's just get i saw it yeah i thought it was at what point uh is it now that
you look back going
oh that was the moment or did you just sense along the way when you start
seeing cracks in it and
people uh what i always call it called like taking the ride where all of a
sudden it's just like hey
you know what when i say go fuck yourself it means a little more now yeah and
you start you just you
just start floating away like whoever's like like those hot air and blue guys
that hold the thing
down they just sort of let go and you just float off into the abyss we started
seeing or i started
seeing cracks very early but what i look at them now as it's not cracks into
the foundation of what
the band was it's cracks into the foundation of what i thought the band was oh
everybody was
already who they were and everybody responded to our success and our workload
and all that in the
way that their nature dictated it just took me forever to recognize oh they
were always that way
i thought you know it's easy to say oh fame and fortune fucks with people oh so
you don't you don't
know it it it it it just throws gas on a simmering fire that's already there to
begin with i mean
you know it's like when mel gibson gets drunk he said things he i've been drunk
i didn't say those
words right you know what i mean i've been that drunk and i've been that angry
and i don't go there
because that's not me right and so fame all fame and fortune and all that
success of our early records
was was a mirror for everybody and so what it what it what i got out of the
mirror was um you know a lot
of uncertainty and and and a lot of you know my response to people splintering
off was to panic and freak
out and like i've said a million times a band is a family and when a band start
when a band starts
with family it's really a family right and when you have addiction in a family
you have codependency
in a family and so everybody brings their own bags to the shit show you know
what i mean and mine was
you know i'm a codependent guy who thinks i can make everything better right
like oh here are the
robinson brothers and they have their views and their issues and i stepped in
and then and then we grabbed
the guitar player and then we grabbed the bass player everybody brought their
own shit and so
so when the cracks start to appear i look at it now as oh no that's just that
was reality tapping
me on the shoulder but me going not yet not now i don't want to know i'm gonna
i'm gonna will this
into a better place well i have to say the amount of times in the book only
reason because i'm a fan
of the band so i knew you weren't done but the amount of times i gotta give you
gotta give it up to
what you guys accomplished as far as the amount of times sure that you're right
there and then just
something fucks the whole thing up it's just like oh we're done and then just
something else came along
like maybe that happens twice if you're lucky but the amount of times that
happen to you guys because
that's the one thing that's only sad about reading the book it's just like i
fucking love the band i love
everybody in it yeah but like but on the other side it was it really was
amazing to uh just finally kind
of have somebody just go all right this is what the fuck happened and this guy
you know this fucking
asshole he said this and this shit head and then i'm fucking like i mean it's
basically how the thing
is it it sounds like a like a conversation so um and i was i'm really geeking
out here about
questions i want to ask you but as far as like what it's always killed me as
far as like if there's this
a huge band like your band and you got this killer drummer like you the the
thing about it is is if
you're like a killer singer you can you're like the way people listen to music
it's like it's the singer
first sure so they in a lot of people's minds if you listen to it on like a
superficial level
they're the sound of the band yeah so a guy like that can go out and get a
bunch of hired guns
of course yeah and do that type of shit but then people always say about the
drummer is like your
band's only as good as your drummer if your drummer was out it's true you're
fucked but like i feel
like well name a great band with a shit drummer they don't exist i know you
there there are great
bands whose singers weren't great yes you know i'm saying there's like i'm a
fan of free with those
bands yeah but but but but it's but a band that you but but in all time in the
all-time thing i have
a buddy back in atlanta teddy murray and he always said you got a singer and a
drummer everybody else
can fake it right and it's kind of true on a certain level but the thing is
when the band implodes
though yeah as far as a drummer then trying to be like well i'm the drum sound
of the black crows to
try and get another thing going like i i was you know when you were saying yeah
this panic i can make
it better i can fix it yeah there was any of that like well i'm the fucking
drummer who's gonna give
a shit if if this thing everybody goes and goes solo this guy's the lead singer
he's like the face
he's always running his yap in the uh the interviews so he's kind of like up
front in the fame thing and
can kind of sustain something right because i i know i oh no i was never i i
honestly never thought
i had fears that were primal of just my thing is splintering right now when i
took a minute and
said well what happens if this goes away i i i was like oh well i can get
another gig i'm good and i'm
and i'm a great member of a team i mean i knew what my strengths were right and
i knew that i could use
those elsewhere i didn't want to i didn't want to go through that because i
always had the vision of
you know i dropped out of college and moved to atlanta to start a band and i
the bands i love
without yeah one thing at a time i gotta get into a band before i can commit to
buying a drum kit
but the main thing i wanted to do what my whole life was being a band and a
band to me is no
different than a basketball team i mean i really looked at it like that and i
and i i looked at it
like i'm bill russell and most basketball fans don't appreciate his greatness
so i get it right i'm
gonna defend the rim i'm gonna get every fucking rebound i'm gonna hit all the
outlet passes and you
guys go dunk and shoot threes and i love that role that's me i got it people
love playing with you
i got it i'm under i got this you guys go do what the fuck you want i'm not
gonna ever miss the one
we're gonna be right where we need to be and so that's how i played basketball
that's how i played
soccer i played sweeper i was just like i'm i got all this and i don't want all
the attention i'm
happy like let's go right and then when i you know i saw chris my second night
in atlanta sing and i was
like that fucker's got something you know like holy shit and a few months later
when he asked me to play
with them me and rich and chris you know me and two brothers but then chris and
i were like best
friends you had these two weird you had brothers that were at each other's throats
and then i step
in and me and chris became inseparable and we're just bad cop good cop whatever
you want to call it
having a fucking blast but then he's got his brother so there was that dynamic
of those two little two
man crews within the three of us that that was very power looking back now it's
real there was a lot of
chemistry and power in that right um because we all brought a real intensity to
it and and we didn't
know what to do with it and it took a while to figure it out and we needed help
to figure it out but
it was built on a pretty strong there's talent but there's also desperation and
there's there's a lot
of fuel to make sure this fucking thing goes somewhere and that was all really
special so from
the but from the jump i was like i'm in a band with brothers this ain't about
me on any fucking level
publicly behind the scenes though we're all here together and by god i'm gonna
have my say and i'm
gonna will these things into and in a local band that was much more easy to do
and and so i always
wanted it to be that way like that that idea of you know if everybody knows
their role nothing will
ever stop us when was the first time you were in that band and you know i mean
you have to go
into it thinking i'm gonna make it 100 i'm to this day convinced if i'd stayed
in my original band that
band would have made it yeah that's the only way y