Name: Tiger King’s “Doc” Antle Explains Joe Exotic’s Downfall | w/Theo Von
Uploaded: 2020-03-31T16:00:08.000Z
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Tiger King’s “Doc” Antle Explains Joe Exotic’s Downfall | w/Theo Von' from Theo Von Clips on Comedy Buff. Published 2020-03-31. Transcript available.

I have a question. Going back to the documentary, where do you think that Joe
Exotic would be if it weren't for Carole Baskin today?
I think that he's had a lot of difficulties that have come up. I think there
was other
difficult things besides Carole. I think that PETA was a real difficulty and a
thorn in his side.
I think that Joe was too big and imploding in his own way. I think he was
taking on so much
responsibility of so many animals. I think that that is just a difficulty in
itself. There's a
certain point that you have to stop. If you can properly care for 100 chickens,
then you've got
100 chickens and you built a barn farm and that's how it is. If you add 10 more
chickens to there,
you start reducing the quality of all 110 chickens now. I think he was piling
it on,
that was causing a lot of pain and suffering for him and that potentially that
was going to expand
into the staff, into the animals, into other things. It all became tragic in
its own way.
It's incredibly difficult to find people that want to help you. I think he had
very difficult staff
problems. He was really scraping the edges sometimes to find people that he
could have do the work there.
And to try and have the food. It cost me a fortune to feed my cats. I have to
bring a thousand pounds
pounds of food out every day. If it's not that I would expect my children to
eat, I wouldn't expect a
tiger to eat it. But they're grabbing all that old spunky meats and second-hand
deliveries and things.
And that also creates an implosion. Things are unhealthy. Things can't
reproduce. Things can't
live their best life. You, everybody needs care and quality in their life. When
you reduce the care,
you reduce the quality of the opportunities for them to eat, to sleep, for
where they can stay.
Everything trips off the edge. So Joe was imploding in his own, his own way.
And I spoke to him a couple
of times saying, Joe, you've got too many parts here. You got too much going on.
You need to worry
about the care and the center point here.
And was he able to hear that? Like he's referred to you in the documentary. At
one point, he referred
to you as a mentor and somebody he really looks up to. Was he able to hear that
when you were talking
to him, when you kind of, when you guys checked in with each other?
He was, I feel like I'm going to sneeze. Okay. He was able to hear some of it,
but hearing it and enacting
it are two different things. Saying, try and find some better quality help.
Shoot. Many restaurants
in America that serve fine food cannot find fine servers. You know, many people
that have great
businesses have the most difficult time with staff. Joe was at odds trying to
have staff. And then he just
wanted to be famous. You know, he got his wish. That's the way everybody always
needs to think of
careful what you wish for. Joe's more famous than he's ever going to be right
now. You know,
for him, this is the crowning moment in his career. And he's oddly not even
free to see it,
which is, um, which is such a wild thing. Um, on the documentary, a lot of, uh,
there seems to be
like a lot of like drug use and behind the scenes, drug use, and I've used
drugs, so I know what it's
about, but did you feel like that had a lot to do with some of the things
falling apart over there
in Joe's world? Yeah. I think when you're using drugs, it's much harder to
focus. I mean, at times
throughout Joe's life, he used enough drugs that he overdosed on a number of
occasions, you know,
and that he was looking at some pretty hard stuff to be recreational,
recreational, hard drugs.
That's a very difficult thing. There might be some recreational alcohol, or
maybe people have
recreational marijuana in their life, but recreational meth, man, you're
stepping over the line.
And meth is a full season game. You can't. Yeah. Meth is a full season. It's
not a pickup game. You know,
meth is, uh, yeah, that's a million quarters, dude. That's a lot of overtimes,
man.
A lot of people coming to work with him falling into the same trap. How can
they possibly provide
the care that you would hope? And the people that are continuing in that kind
of shadier side of
wildlife, um, that part of it is probably the most detrimental thing that can
go on. You need that
clear head, sharp thinking and focus to make this work out. Right. Um,
would you ever be able, I would be, I would be scared to be on drugs around a
big cat. I would
be scared to be on drugs around a big cat. How do you feel about that? I'm
scared to be around big
cats. If I have allergies going on, you know, I'm, I'm certainly not going to
go out there and have
a few drinks and see what's happening. That just does. This is, this is, uh,
on your toes, ready for the serve. I tell people, if you don't feel like you're
in a tennis match
and that other guy's getting to throw a hundred mile an hour ball at you right
now,
that you're not ready for that tiger to open that door. If you open it, when we
open a door,
we say, here you go. We open the door right up and we say, how you doing there,
tiger boy,
come right here, come to me, hold. We put them together with us. We say, let's
follow, walk.
We have very organized, very specific relationships that we nurture from the
time.
They're very small. We're the last ones doing this kind of action in America.
It's just faded away.
Joe is doing it different. He was looking for a tiger that didn't like to bite
very often.
It's a completely different thing. Cody has not been chewed up. I have never
been chewed up in my
life. Um, we have not been harmed on our facility. We've had bumps and
scratches and fall down,
but we've certainly had far more trouble with people tripping and falling with
no cats around
than any time a cat hurting somebody. It's just not there. That's not part of
what goes on.
Yeah. I know. Yeah. Joe's over there. He likes cats that like to listen to ACDC
and smoke cigarettes.
And some of that stuff blew my mind. Like the, Hey, I even saw a cat putting a
Copenhagen in his jaw.
You know, it definitely gets a little more risque over there at his camp, but
it seemed like it was
just an every his, his whole tiger complex, uh, that GW spot was just an
example of him. It was just,
it really is. It behaves the way the owner does. It seems like, like each one
of you guys is camps
kind of follows the owner. Very erratic behavior, you know, and very, very much
behavior of somehow me,
me, me, me. And, and how it's going to reflect, look and be about me, not about
the animals and
certainly not about the big picture that wildlife desperately needs the big
picture of what are
tigers doing in the wild and how are you personally trying to help? And I
talked with Joe about that a
couple of times, trying to get him on that vein. One time he got some money and
raised it. I think
he's selling prophylactics. He told me, and he raised money for rhinos and he
made a donation
to international rhino foundation so that he could help save rhinos, but it was
a one-off. He couldn't
keep the momentum. He needed the money for other, uh, activities in life, I
guess. And he just didn't
hold it together. And he got, you know, some unscrupulous buddies to come along.
And I think they
tore him down hard, um, as he, uh, got more diversified and who was helping him
run the
park. I think that was probably the most dangerous thing he ever did was, uh,
bring on more people
that were from more partners is trouble. Now he also was Joe when you, where
did you first meet Joe?
I first met Joe, um, at a feline conservation federation meeting about, um,
people that have
animals and how they're going to care for them and what they're doing. I was
trying to get it that
organization to be able to experience the wildlife and activities that I have
here. Maybe 15 years or so
ago, he visited, um, because that group was here visiting and he came through
the facility and he
got to see what, where we're doing and what was happening. And he made
application to try and, um,
ask the organization to improve his place, give him tips of what could happen.
So because of that,
I sent him some notes and letters and things about what he, I thought he should
do to improve the
facility and make a better life for the animals and better life towards the
conservation movement.
I think Joe had good intentions of what he was doing. I think Joe loved the
party. And I think Joe
was looking for a party where he could be the king of that party. And there is
no doubt that having
exotic animals, even just from a little monkey to a big old tiger with you
creates a
something flashy that will draw someone to you and makes a great icebreaker for
that situation.
Now, the responsibility that comes with it is so great that it will wash it all
away. But a lot of
time it takes people a long time to figure out the flash of the tiger comes
with a massive amount of
responsibility and time and that the tiger's not going to act like a dog unless
you become a world-class
trainer, which then requires thousands of hours and then takes away the party
again.
So I think he was just wishing. But you know what I think Joe wished the most
and did the most is Joe
wanted to be Siegfried and Roy. That's his mentor in his mind, I would say, far
more.
I think he wanted to be Siegfried and boys, I think.
Yeah. Just, just to have that, you know, wow factor, you know, and that's why I
did the magic and
did other things. And I think that all that was part of what he was chasing.
You know, he, he looked like a really hard worker though, Doc, I will say that.
And that's
just the perception I get. Was he a hard worker?
I think he was, I think he was working very hard at a very difficult thing that
would not,
he could not keep that ship going. I think that he's got a nice ship.
They poked a bunch of holes in it and goes the one back there with the bucket
slinging water out
as fast as he can. But that ship is going down. He's working his ass off to sling
the water out.
He's got people right next to him that are drilling holes on the other side,
drilling holes.
Peter's on the other side. And then the animal people that he met and the other
con men,
shysters and losers that got locked up, they're drilling holes. And Joe's back
there going,
can't be that bad. He's got a bucket. He's going crazy, slinging it over the
side,
doesn't even realize that it's sunk until they close that big metal door behind
him to chain,
you know, should he, should Joe exotic be in prison?
I would guess that certainly a portion of the stuff that they say he did wrong.
He did some of it. I would not have been shocked if they gave him time served,
right? That's what I thought. Well, it might even be there because he sat there
for a long time
being locked up without being guilty of anything, which always seems strange
when that happened.
So he's locked up all that time. He's suffering. He's not the healthiest guy
and he's feeling bad in
there. And I thought some people go, I'm shocked that he got 22 years. I think
it's a sign of the times of just,
you know, people saying that he's gone really too far, that the things that he
did wrong are too big,
but I'm really not sure that they were near as big as other criminals in our
system, many of whom are
we elected and put in office that I think cross the line far more, uh, heinous
than anything that Joe's
done. And they all, they float by. So legal system is really hard. I think if
Joe was had top notch
attorney, but it's been a few million dollars on his defense, his sentence
would have been far
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