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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Gary Sinise Remembers His Son Mac' from Theo Von Clips on Comedy Buff. Published 2025-11-12. Transcript available.

You've had an interesting few years.
Your son got very sick in the past few years.
Yeah.
Mac, his name, what was his full name?
Mac.
First name is McKenna, and everybody called him, you know, we all called him
Mac.
Yeah.
Oh, there he is, handsome guy.
McKenna Anthony.
Yeah, Mac was, he started playing drums when he was nine years old,
and he just took to it right away, just an incredible, he had just a natural
talent
and played all the way through high school.
Look how proud he looks right there.
He's pretending to look like that, like kind of austere, you know?
Well, you know.
Is austere a word?
Yeah, it is.
After music school, he went to USC music school, and then he went on tour.
He was touring around overseas and around the country with different bands and
whatnot.
He came to work for the Gary Sinise Foundation in 2017.
Wow.
He just was kind of tired of the road, and I kept kind of bugging him a little
bit.
Well, why don't you dip your toe in the water and just come and work at the
foundation part-time?
And he started to do it, and he fell in love with the mission.
And that's Mac and I on one of our trips where we took probably about 45 World
War II veterans
down to the National World War II Museum.
In New Orleans?
In New Orleans.
Yeah.
And we take him with our program called Soaring Valor.
Mac fell in love with that program and just loved being around the veterans.
And he was just getting so into working with the foundation.
He also was a great composer and wrote music for the foundation.
And then in 2018, he was diagnosed with a very rare cancer called chordoma.
It starts in the spine, and he had his initial tumor removed in September of
2018,
but the cancer came back in May of 2019.
He stayed working for the foundation while he was going through treatment until
the end of 2019,
and then things got very, very hard for him.
And you can see him there in a wheelchair.
He was disabled by the cancer, couldn't walk anymore, couldn't play any music
anymore,
wasn't thinking about music at all for 2020, 2021, 22, in early 2023.
And this is a story that you see there that I posted on the Gary Sinise
Foundation website
about six weeks after he died.
He worked for the foundation, and I wanted people to know,
that we lost one of our team.
And people, you know, I didn't talk about this for six years while we were
going through it.
We were just going through cancer and trying to fight it and hoping we would
find some drugs that worked.
And Mac tried 25 different drugs during a four-and-a-half-year period, and
nothing worked.
And it's a rare cancer.
I mean, there's no cure for it.
So, yeah, in early 2023, though, he said to me,
Dad, I've been thinking about this piece of music that I wrote in college that
I never finished,
and I'm thinking I'd like to try to finish it.
And, you know, he hadn't been thinking about music at all.
And when he said that, I was just like, I was so knocked out by that.
I said, yes, do it, do it.
And so he teamed up with a couple of my band members who he knew.
Mac was our number two drummer.
If my guy, Danny Gottlieb, couldn't be there, Mac would play.
Wow.
He grew up around the band.
He knew all the band.
Everybody loved him.
So he went to work with Dan Myers and Ben Lewis to start fleshing out this
piece called Arctic Circles.
And by July of 2023, he was in the studio right there recording.
And he also played harmonica.
He picked up harmonica in his hospital bed.
He couldn't play drums, so he picked up the harmonica and he started playing.
And that's Mac playing the great American classic folk tune, Shenandoah.
Oh, yeah.
With a string section behind him.
And you can see that video.
You can see Arctic Circles and other videos at Mac Sinise YouTube.
And here's some of this music on the YouTube.
You can also download it.
And Mac ended up, after these sessions for Shenandoah and Arctic Circles,
he decided he wanted to do a whole album.
So along with his buddy, Oliver Schnee, composing Buddy from, that's Oliver
right there, from USC.
They went to work.
And Mac did an album called Resurrection and Revival.
And he finished the music, was done and ready in December of 2023, two weeks
before he died.
He finished the record.
And we posted up this story.
That's one of the sessions with my band for Resurrection and Revival.
This story is on the Gary Sinise Foundation website.
Oh, that's beautiful.
Handsome young man.
He was incredible.
You can actually see right there on his nose, that's a tumor.
And, yeah, no, you can see his spirit right there.
And we're listening to one of the pieces played back to us right there.
And everybody was psyched out about it.
And thank you for sharing Mac with us today.
Thank you for letting us think about you with him and think about him.
Thank you for letting us speak his name today.
And, you know, it's important that I think when we say people's names that aren't
here in front of us,
that they feel it, that that's a real thing, right?
To me, that feels very real.
Same as when we pray for people, that all those things are very real.
Like, I think our spirits are very much alive for a long time.
And so thank you for letting us.
Mac was a very faithful guy.
Was he?
Yeah.
Catholic faith helped him through the most challenging, difficult stuff.
What was something that amazed you about your son as you're watching him go
through that?
You know, Theo, I never heard him say, you know, that why me stuff or why is
this happening or anything like that.
You know, it was just, I remember when we found out he had a tumor and the way
he dealt with it was just,
oh, that's why my tailbone's been hurting, you know, for two years.
You know, he thought it was a tailbone fracture or bruise from a bike accident
or something.
And, oh, okay, so we're going to take it out and get on with life.
And he faced it like that.
He always had this sort of, he was what I called a graceful warrior.
And such courage and such grace under fire because this cancer was devastating.
I mean, it was one thing after another.
It just kept coming at us.
And I was like the one in the family who had to guide us, you know, through it.
I stopped acting in 2019.
At the end of 2019, 2020 became so difficult that I just never went back to
acting.
And I stayed, you know, I just stayed in a battle.
And he was the inspiration for everything.
The way he courageously just faced it and just took it on the chin and took it
in stride.
And if he was, if we could keep him out of pain and if we could keep him, you
know, from feeling too sick from the treatment and all that, he was just living.
He was, you know, he's in a hospital bed and we had to hoist him up with a
thing called a Hoyer lift and you lift him out of the bed and put him in a
wheelchair or whatever.
Like one of those shrimp net things almost, which is crazy.
Well, it's a sling.
It's a sling that you put under, underneath them and then you hook it to this
arm and then you crank it up and it lifts him out of the bed.
It's kind of cool.
Almost like a stork.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, that's what we had.
And we had to get used to all that kind of stuff, wheelchair vans.
And treatment and, you know, radiation and, you know, he had multiple surgeries
and he went through all of this, which was such grace.
And the last year of his life, when he said he wanted to go back and write that
music, in some ways, even though it was getting harder and we were running out
of drug options and all of that and his health was, you know, deteriorating.
In some ways, that was one of the best years of his life because he
accomplished what he set out to do.
He wanted to make this record.
He wanted to make this music.
He wanted to resurrect and revive this old piece that he never finished.
And he did it.
And he did all of that.
And then after he died, I found all this additional music in his files that he
wrote and tucked away that some he'd written in for the foundation and I had
heard it.
But then I found all this other stuff going all the way back to his college
days.
And so I produced a second record, Resurrection and Revival Part 2.
That's actually a story about Resurrection and Revival Part 2.
Go back to that picture.
I just want to see him.
Oh, look how happy he is, huh?
And that is, we blew up a bunch of pictures of Mac and put them in the studio
when we were recording.
And yeah, there they are.
We put the pictures around.
You had the orchestra there.
They're all playing.
And a lot of them played on the first record, you know.
And so we made a second record, Resurrection and Revival Part 2, which is a
double vinyl album.
And Mac wanted all the proceeds that came in.
And if people bought the vinyl album, he wanted those proceeds to go to the
Gary Sinise Foundation.
And so we've...
How special, huh?
Yeah.
How special for your son to, like, just to make it such a family mission, you
know?
You know what's cool, too?
You can see here, like, all those messages right in the middle of the screen
there.
Those are...
There are thousands of messages that were posted on the Gary Sinise Foundation
website after people read this story.
And I can't tell you how meaningful that was for people to write in and leave
these messages for our family and how helpful that was for us to read.
These are from my bandmates and some of the people that worked for the
foundation.
But these are the messages that came in from the general public and they
continue to come in.
And to have this kind of support and people sharing their own stories of loss
and going through it and reading Mac's story and listening to his music and
what listening to his music was doing for them.
That was...
All of that has been so helpful to us in our loss.
It's...
You know, I mean, to lose a son is...
It's...
You know, it's the hardest thing that...
I've had some hard things in life, but to watch our son go through that and to
lose him in the end was the most difficult thing in life.
But also, like I said, the blessings that we've had, you know, with his music
and...
For sure.
You know, and now I've got a third record going.
I've found even more music.
Of Mac stuff?
Let's go.
I mean, it's incredible.
There's a third record going.
I just...
He wrote so many things that he never thought would...
I mean, you know how a musician will get an idea.
Yeah.
To kind of chunk it out, throw it onto a recorder, tuck it away over here, and
then, you know, go on.
And so I found all these things that he wrote and tucked away.
And we brought a whole bunch of those to life.
Orchestral music, jazz things, rock tunes.
Something as big as, you know, him sitting down with his computer programs and
doing big sweeping string orchestrations to him singing a melody into his phone
that he didn't want to forget that was in his head.
Yeah.
And he sings this melody.
And so I've taken those melodies, gone to my guys that work with me on it, and
said, let's bring these melodies to life.
Oh, I love that.
And so many of Mac's melodies are coming to life now in the third record.
It's really...
It's spectacular.
It's beautiful.
And all the proceeds will go to the Gary Sinise Foundation to help our mission.
He loved our mission at the Gary Sinise Foundation.
Well, it's just so amazing that he got in there and was able to just, like,
just feel the joy of being a part of serving others, you know?
Yeah.
If you get a chance, play some of that.
Oh, I would love to.
It's good stuff.
It's really amazing music.
I want to listen to something in just a second here.
Was there...
Do you feel like there was a way that he tried to prepare you for him passing?
Or what is that like?
Like, is that a strange question?
No, no, it's not.
And I...
You know what?
He was preparing.
He knew he had an incurable cancer.
And every drug we were trying wasn't working.
And he tried, like, 25 different drugs during a four-and-a-half-year period.
And we would...
Was there plant medicines and stuff you tried, too, even?
Yeah.
I mean, at one point, he was doing sea cucumbers from New Zealand, you know,
that were showing some positive signs, like on an immunotherapy side.
And we had a very good oncologist who was...
We never got to that point where they said, we don't know what to do.
We don't have any ideas.
Our oncologist was like, Mac, as long as you want to keep trying,
then I'll keep looking for something to try.
And he did.
And he kept trying to find something.
And, you know, unfortunately, we'd get to a certain point with one drug
and we didn't see enough results.
So you bang into the next one.
And, you know, we had a lot of drugs go through Mac at a certain point.
And it was very, you know, very, very challenging, you know, to fight that.
But I never saw him not want to do it.
Later on, I found videos that he made.
And when I say he was preparing himself, he was also leaving some things for
the family.
And he wrote some things that I found.
And he left messages.
And at one point in 2022, he had to go in for very serious...
He was having a very serious bladder issue.
His bladder was just shutting down.
And he had to have tubes put in his kidneys to drain the urine directly out of
his kidneys.
And he was in the ICU for about 12 days.
And at that point, he thought this, you know, he was wondering if that was
going to be it, you know, the end.
So he started thinking and he started writing and he started leaving videos and
he started preparing.
And then I, after he died, I started finding all this stuff, messages from him,
things that he was thinking.
And not, you know, to be sad, you know.
No.
But I want to leave something.
He was saying, I want to leave something.
That people will, so people will know me a little better.
And he was thinking ahead, you know, to the time where he might not make it.
And, you know, with everything that was happening to him, he was realistic, you
know.
He was very realistic about the fight and the uphill battle that we had.
And we weren't seeing enough progress, you know, on the positive side to combat
the cancer.
So he was preparing in a lot of ways and, you know, like I said, I've
discovered a lot of things and I've discovered more about my son than I could
have imagined, you know.
Just his talent, his wisdom, his spirituality, a lot of beautiful things that,
because I've spent countless hours, you know, all the time digging into things
about my son.
And I'm working on a, you know, something that will come out next year about
him.
And, you know, so I'm, I'm, I'm spending a lot of time and, and Mac is, he
continues to help me and, and we share, you know, my band plays two songs.
And he wrote and yeah, two songs.
Yeah.
We're playing at the Opry next week and Mac's going to have his Opry debut.
Let's go.
With two of his songs.
He sounds like such a gift.
That's what he sounds like.
Was he always like that even when he was small?
Like when he was a child?
Yeah.
You know, he was a kid, you know, like, like other kids, but he was, Mac was a
very, always very sensitive.
His mom, I think he's, he's got this sensitive beauty that his mother has and
she gave him a lot of that.
And, um, and at one point he went off to college and he kind of, you know, was
doing the college thing and kind of went through a period, you know, where he's
a little straight.
But then he came back to his faith in a really big way.
You know, when he, uh, at, you know, a couple of years out of college, he was,
he was looking for something more than what he had.
And that's why, that's when he started kind of revisiting his faith.
And I'll tell you, the fact that he kind of, uh, reinvested in, in that in 2017
in such a profound way that was so meaningful to him.
The fact that he did that when he did was a gigantic benefit to his fight
because the following year he's diagnosed with this terrible cancer.
And he has something inside to help support him.
Yeah.
And, and, and the timing couldn't have been better for that, you know, for him
to have that strength.
And he always relied on that throughout the fight.
Um, were you so proud of him?
Oh.
Yeah.
Could not be prouder of anyone.
Um, I'm proud of my kids and, uh, my, our daughters are amazing.
And, uh, you know, through the whole thing, we were all heartbroken, of course,
but, uh, our daughters were amazing through it all and loved their brothers so
much.
And, uh, that, that's the three of them right there.
Yeah.
Tell me about Mac's sisters if you haven't, if you have a minute.
Yeah.
Um, well, there's the one picture there, um, where they're looking back at the
camera.
Yeah.
That's cute.
That's my daughter, Sophie, on the right, and then Mac in the middle, and then,
yeah, that one there.
And then Ella, the youngest.
Ella's pregnant with her third child right now.
Let's go, Ella.
Somebody's knocking her up, huh?
Whoa, dude, sorry.
But, yeah, she.
We know how it happens.
Sorry.
That's terrible.
Oh, my God.
That's terrible.
I'm just trying to make you laugh.
I'm just trying to make you laugh.
And Sophie on the right, she's got three kids.
Oh, she's got a big family.
Mac loved his little nieces.
Um, my wife is amazing.
That's her on the right there with Mac.
Um, uh, they, we all have a very close relationship.
And, uh, we all have helped each other through, uh, you know, this, this very
difficult time.
Um, no question about it.
Just the value of family, of having people, you know?
You know, in the beginning, when you're going through a loss like that, I mean,
we've all been through terrible loss.
But, but, but this particular thing, in the beginning, you're all, you're all
exactly in the same place at the same time.
You're all crying every day, all the time.
And, and then as time goes on, you start to manage your grief a little bit more.
Um, just manage those moments.
The moments sneak up on you and stuff like that.
And sometimes they'll hit me and, you know, all of a sudden I'm in a very
emotional place and, you know, my wife will just put her hand on my shoulder,
you know?
Whereas in the beginning, she'd start crying herself or my daughter would start
crying.
We'd all be crying at the same time.
And you kind of help each other through those moments.
You just know, okay, dad's having a, a moment here with Mac and we just have to
help him through, you know?
And so you learn to process your grief a little better.
And the thing I would say to anybody, you know, is, you know, those beautiful
memories that you have of somebody that you miss like that and that you've lost,
those are the things that sustain you, you know?
And you have to hang on to them.
You can't, you know, Mac, I know Mac doesn't want me to grieve and be sad and
depressed all day long and miss him all day long and, you know, all of that.
He wants us to go on and live and anybody that we love that we lose, that's
what they, they don't want us sitting around and wasting a minute of time, just
not making the most out of the life that we have.
And that's what, that's what we do to kind of celebrate and honor those that we've
lost.
We live on for them.
And, uh, I know that Mac is proud of me and what I'm doing with his music.
He's, he's probably a little freaked out about it because I'm so obsessed with
it.
But, uh, but he's also like, dad, you, you took that little idea and turned it
into something.
I know.
Thank you.

Gary Sinise Remembers His Son Mac

You've had an interesting few years.
Your son got very sick in the past few years.
Yeah.
Mac, his name, what was his full name?
Mac.
First name is McKenna, and everybody called him, you know, we all called him
Mac.
Yeah.
Oh, there he is, handsome guy.
McKenna Anthony.
Yeah, Mac was, he started playing drums when he was nine years old,
and he just took to it right away, just an incredible, he had just a natural
talent
and played all the way through high school.
Look how proud he looks right there.
He's pretending to look like that, like kind of austere, you know?
Well, you know.
Is austere a word?
Yeah, it is.
After music school, he went to USC music school, and then he went on tour.
He was touring around overseas and around the country with different bands and
whatnot.
He came to work for the Gary Sinise Foundation in 2017.
Wow.
He just was kind of tired of the road, and I kept kind of bugging him a little
bit.
Well, why don't you dip your toe in the water and just come and work at the
foundation part-time?
And he started to do it, and he fell in love with the mission.
And that's Mac and I on one of our trips where we took probably about 45 World
War II veterans
down to the National World War II Museum.
In New Orleans?
In New Orleans.
Yeah.
And we take him with our program called Soaring Valor.
Mac fell in love with that program and just loved being around the veterans.
And he was just getting so into working with the foundation.
He also was a great composer and wrote music for the foundation.
And then in 2018, he was diagnosed with a very rare cancer called chordoma.
It starts in the spine, and he had his initial tumor removed in September of
2018,
but the cancer came back in May of 2019.
He stayed working for the foundation while he was going through treatment until
the end of 2019,
and then things got very, very hard for him.
And you can see him there in a wheelchair.
He was disabled by the cancer, couldn't walk anymore, couldn't play any music
anymore,
wasn't thinking about music at all for 2020, 2021, 22, in early 2023.
And this is a story that you see there that I posted on the Gary Sinise
Foundation website
about six weeks after he died.
He worked for the foundation, and I wanted people to know,
that we lost one of our team.
And people, you know, I didn't talk about this for six years while we were
going through it.
We were just going through cancer and trying to fight it and hoping we would
find some drugs that worked.
And Mac tried 25 different drugs during a four-and-a-half-year period, and
nothing worked.
And it's a rare cancer.
I mean, there's no cure for it.
So, yeah, in early 2023, though, he said to me,
Dad, I've been thinking about this piece of music that I wrote in college that
I never finished,
and I'm thinking I'd like to try to finish it.
And, you know, he hadn't been thinking about music at all.
And when he said that, I was just like, I was so knocked out by that.
I said, yes, do it, do it.
And so he teamed up with a couple of my band members who he knew.
Mac was our number two drummer.
If my guy, Danny Gottlieb, couldn't be there, Mac would play.
Wow.
He grew up around the band.
He knew all the band.
Everybody loved him.
So he went to work with Dan Myers and Ben Lewis to start fleshing out this
piece called Arctic Circles.
And by July of 2023, he was in the studio right there recording.
And he also played harmonica.
He picked up harmonica in his hospital bed.
He couldn't play drums, so he picked up the harmonica and he started playing.
And that's Mac playing the great American classic folk tune, Shenandoah.
Oh, yeah.
With a string section behind him.
And you can see that video.
You can see Arctic Circles and other videos at Mac Sinise YouTube.
And here's some of this music on the YouTube.
You can also download it.
And Mac ended up, after these sessions for Shenandoah and Arctic Circles,
he decided he wanted to do a whole album.
So along with his buddy, Oliver Schnee, composing Buddy from, that's Oliver
right there, from USC.
They went to work.
And Mac did an album called Resurrection and Revival.
And he finished the music, was done and ready in December of 2023, two weeks
before he died.
He finished the record.
And we posted up this story.
That's one of the sessions with my band for Resurrection and Revival.
This story is on the Gary Sinise Foundation website.
Oh, that's beautiful.
Handsome young man.
He was incredible.
You can actually see right there on his nose, that's a tumor.
And, yeah, no, you can see his spirit right there.
And we're listening to one of the pieces played back to us right there.
And everybody was psyched out about it.
And thank you for sharing Mac with us today.
Thank you for letting us think about you with him and think about him.
Thank you for letting us speak his name today.
And, you know, it's important that I think when we say people's names that aren't
here in front of us,
that they feel it, that that's a real thing, right?
To me, that feels very real.
Same as when we pray for people, that all those things are very real.
Like, I think our spirits are very much alive for a long time.
And so thank you for letting us.
Mac was a very faithful guy.
Was he?
Yeah.
Catholic faith helped him through the most challenging, difficult stuff.
What was something that amazed you about your son as you're watching him go
through that?
You know, Theo, I never heard him say, you know, that why me stuff or why is
this happening or anything like that.
You know, it was just, I remember when we found out he had a tumor and the way
he dealt with it was just,
oh, that's why my tailbone's been hurting, you know, for two years.
You know, he thought it was a tailbone fracture or bruise from a bike accident
or something.
And, oh, okay, so we're going to take it out and get on with life.
And he faced it like that.
He always had this sort of, he was what I called a graceful warrior.
And such courage and such grace under fire because this cancer was devastating.
I mean, it was one thing after another.
It just kept coming at us.
And I was like the one in the family who had to guide us, you know, through it.
I stopped acting in 2019.
At the end of 2019, 2020 became so difficult that I just never went back to
acting.
And I stayed, you know, I just stayed in a battle.
And he was the inspiration for everything.
The way he courageously just faced it and just took it on the chin and took it
in stride.
And if he was, if we could keep him out of pain and if we could keep him, you
know, from feeling too sick from the treatment and all that, he was just living.
He was, you know, he's in a hospital bed and we had to hoist him up with a
thing called a Hoyer lift and you lift him out of the bed and put him in a
wheelchair or whatever.
Like one of those shrimp net things almost, which is crazy.
Well, it's a sling.
It's a sling that you put under, underneath them and then you hook it to this
arm and then you crank it up and it lifts him out of the bed.
It's kind of cool.
Almost like a stork.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, that's what we had.
And we had to get used to all that kind of stuff, wheelchair vans.
And treatment and, you know, radiation and, you know, he had multiple surgeries
and he went through all of this, which was such grace.
And the last year of his life, when he said he wanted to go back and write that
music, in some ways, even though it was getting harder and we were running out
of drug options and all of that and his health was, you know, deteriorating.
In some ways, that was one of the best years of his life because he
accomplished what he set out to do.
He wanted to make this record.
He wanted to make this music.
He wanted to resurrect and revive this old piece that he never finished.
And he did it.
And he did all of that.
And then after he died, I found all this additional music in his files that he
wrote and tucked away that some he'd written in for the foundation and I had
heard it.
But then I found all this other stuff going all the way back to his college
days.
And so I produced a second record, Resurrection and Revival Part 2.
That's actually a story about Resurrection and Revival Part 2.
Go back to that picture.
I just want to see him.
Oh, look how happy he is, huh?
And that is, we blew up a bunch of pictures of Mac and put them in the studio
when we were recording.
And yeah, there they are.
We put the pictures around.
You had the orchestra there.
They're all playing.
And a lot of them played on the first record, you know.
And so we made a second record, Resurrection and Revival Part 2, which is a
double vinyl album.
And Mac wanted all the proceeds that came in.
And if people bought the vinyl album, he wanted those proceeds to go to the
Gary Sinise Foundation.
And so we've...
How special, huh?
Yeah.
How special for your son to, like, just to make it such a family mission, you
know?
You know what's cool, too?
You can see here, like, all those messages right in the middle of the screen
there.
Those are...
There are thousands of messages that were posted on the Gary Sinise Foundation
website after people read this story.
And I can't tell you how meaningful that was for people to write in and leave
these messages for our family and how helpful that was for us to read.
These are from my bandmates and some of the people that worked for the
foundation.
But these are the messages that came in from the general public and they
continue to come in.
And to have this kind of support and people sharing their own stories of loss
and going through it and reading Mac's story and listening to his music and
what listening to his music was doing for them.
That was...
All of that has been so helpful to us in our loss.
It's...
You know, I mean, to lose a son is...
It's...
You know, it's the hardest thing that...
I've had some hard things in life, but to watch our son go through that and to
lose him in the end was the most difficult thing in life.
But also, like I said, the blessings that we've had, you know, with his music
and...
For sure.
You know, and now I've got a third record going.
I've found even more music.
Of Mac stuff?
Let's go.
I mean, it's incredible.
There's a third record going.
I just...
He wrote so many things that he never thought would...
I mean, you know how a musician will get an idea.
Yeah.
To kind of chunk it out, throw it onto a recorder, tuck it away over here, and
then, you know, go on.
And so I found all these things that he wrote and tucked away.
And we brought a whole bunch of those to life.
Orchestral music, jazz things, rock tunes.
Something as big as, you know, him sitting down with his computer programs and
doing big sweeping string orchestrations to him singing a melody into his phone
that he didn't want to forget that was in his head.
Yeah.
And he sings this melody.
And so I've taken those melodies, gone to my guys that work with me on it, and
said, let's bring these melodies to life.
Oh, I love that.
And so many of Mac's melodies are coming to life now in the third record.
It's really...
It's spectacular.
It's beautiful.
And all the proceeds will go to the Gary Sinise Foundation to help our mission.
He loved our mission at the Gary Sinise Foundation.
Well, it's just so amazing that he got in there and was able to just, like,
just feel the joy of being a part of serving others, you know?
Yeah.
If you get a chance, play some of that.
Oh, I would love to.
It's good stuff.
It's really amazing music.
I want to listen to something in just a second here.
Was there...
Do you feel like there was a way that he tried to prepare you for him passing?
Or what is that like?
Like, is that a strange question?
No, no, it's not.
And I...
You know what?
He was preparing.
He knew he had an incurable cancer.
And every drug we were trying wasn't working.
And he tried, like, 25 different drugs during a four-and-a-half-year period.
And we would...
Was there plant medicines and stuff you tried, too, even?
Yeah.
I mean, at one point, he was doing sea cucumbers from