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Jordan Peterson | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #460

I want to announce some new tour dates.
These tickets will go on sale this Thursday at 10 a.m. local time.
November 9th in Norfolk, Virginia at the Chartway Arena.
November 10th at Roanoke, Virginia.
November 11th, Huntington, West Virginia.
November 15th, Evansville, Indiana.
November 16th, Pikeville, Kentucky.
November 17th, Winston-Salem, North Carolina.
And November 24th, New Orleans, Louisiana.
Down there at the UNO Lakefront Arena.
And that is the day after Thanksgiving.
So that'll be during Thanksgiving break.
All of those new dates will go on sale this Thursday at 10 a.m. local time.
Today's guest is returning to the podcast.
He is one of the most articulate men, I believe, of our time between thoughts
and oration.
I don't know if there's anybody that can think and share as eloquently as him.
We're really grateful to be here in his home country of Canada and to get to
spend time with him again on the podcast.
He is touring.
You can check him out.
He has a new book that he's working on.
He has books that we'll put in the information below.
Today's guest is Mr. Jordan Peterson.
Shine that light on me
I'll sit and tell you my stories
Shine on me
And I will find a song
I'll be singing
I love the 70s shag carpet
People used to have those all over their houses
It wasn't a good idea
Especially if they had dogs
Are we rolling?
Nice rat
Thanks man
That's my nickname is the Rat King
Oh yeah
So that's kind of
Do you have a nickname?
Do you know what a Rat King is?
Huh?
Do you know what a Rat King is?
Uh uh
Oh my god
It's a terrible story
Is it?
There is a Rat King
Uh uh
Well
This is the theory now
I don't know if people ever did this
So imagine your village is full of rats
Oh yeah
Okay
So now you go catch 10 rats
Okay
You throw them in a pit
Okay
Soon
There is one rat
Because he gets all the other rats
He's a champ
Then you throw 10 more rats in there
Soon there's one rat
You do that 3 or 4 times
Then you take the remaining rat
And you let him go
And soon there are no rats in the village
Really?
That's the theory
Wow
So he
It was like the toughest of them all
Yeah
And then he learns to eat rats
Wow
Oh so you teach them to cannibalize
No
We just had
That's a rough story eh
Jesus
Yeah I mean it doesn't have
Sort of like politics
Yeah that's true
Especially these days
I don't think it's for the
I wouldn't say it's for children
No it's not
It's not for children
Although it's hard to tell
These days
Now what's for children
Yeah
Did you see that movie Up?
Did you ever see that movie?
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah right in the beginning
The grandmother dies
And it's just kind of like shocked
You know like wow
Yeah
You know
Yeah
So
But that's a good story
I remember when I was young
If you got somebody a hamster
Or a gerbil
That's how you taught them about death
You know
It was usually like gerbil
And then grandparent
Was kind of like the
God
The order
You know
The order that things kind of expired in
In a child's life
That's very terrible
Well welcome to the Salem Witch Trials of Canada
Oh yes
I'm here on behalf of the Ontario
Is it the psychology department?
No it's the college of psychologists
And it's confusing
You're on a trial right now
You're under
Yes it's essentially a trial
You're being brought up on
You have to take social media
Re-education
Re-education from your provinces saying this
Is that right?
It's a professional group
But they have delegated authority from the province
So there are regulated professions
Okay
And engineers, lawyers, physicians, psychologists
Social workers, teachers
There's a few others
And if you're in a regulated profession
There's a professional body
That governs professional conduct
To which the public has access
In case people misbehave
And so the Ontario College of Psychologists
It's college as in group
Professional group
Rather than university
And it's the Ontario College of Psychologists
That have decided to pursue
Initially 13 charges against me
They dropped seven
Why they dropped those seven
Is a complete mystery
As is everything else they do
You can submit a complaint
To the College of Psychologists
Online with a form
And so what's happened
At least in part
Is because that's become so easy
It's become weaponized by activists
So for example
If you want to cause anybody
Who's a professional trouble
All you have to do is submit a complaint
To the College
The College will look into the complaint
Every complaint
And then decide whether they'll proceed
Now they're not supposed to proceed
If the complaints are vexatious
Or you know
Just troublemaking
But they've decided that
Me complaining on Twitter
About Trudeau
For example
Is unprofessional
And a disgraced
Is a disgrace to the profession
Which is essentially
What I've been charged with
Is being a disgrace to the profession
So it's trying to hold up
What they presume
Is some esteem of the profession
That's the theory
And some professional standards
And you know
I would say for decades
That system actually worked pretty well
Because the people who sat on it
Weren't ideologically addled
And the public wasn't using it
In a weaponized manner
But that's changed completely
And now
Every professional in Canada
And I believe that to be true
Essentially without exception
Unless they're on the far left
Are completely unwilling
To ever utter any opinion
About anything in the political
Or their professional realm
Especially in relationship
To medicine and psychology
The physicians
Now the Ontario College of Physicians
Is partnered with the Ontario College
Of Psychologists
To go after me
Because they're also afraid
That if I was victorious
In this
Their idiot
Mid-level bureaucratic power
Would be diminished
And so
And I've had conversations
With many physicians
In particular
Who've told me flat out
That they'd like to publicly support me
But they can't afford
The tremendous legal costs
And the lengthy inquisition
That's a consequence
Or the possible suspension
Of their license
And so
So you're going to probably
Have to go this alone
In some way
I do have people
Who have
Presented themselves
As interested parties
On the legal side
There's
The Canadian Civil Liberties Union
Is one of them
There's a Justice
CCF
I believe
Now they're going to be
Irritated at me
For not remembering the name
But I can't remember it
At the moment
There's a number of groups
Who are
Pro-free speech
Let's say
Who've also
Weighed in on my side
But the court
Didn't take their
Concerns
With
They
They
They
Didn't
Make their
Concerns
Paramount
Let's put it
That way
Yeah
And the judges
So I appealed
This ruling
So the ruling
Essentially is
That
I have to take
Social media
Retraining
With a social media
Expert
And I'd like to
Make it very clear
There is no such thing
As
There's no profession
Just like the Wizard of Oz
Like who is it going to be
Is it
Do you know the expert
No I don't
No I've got a couple of names
But I don't even know
What defines you
As a social media expert
And neither does the college
And they don't care
You know
If someone presents themselves
As a social media expert
That's good enough
My sense is
That if you're a social media expert
You have a podcast
With millions of followers
And you're doing just fine
On your own
And you actually don't need
To work for an idiot bureaucracy
But you know
That's just me
Right
So now
Not only do I have to
Be reeducated
By this social media expert
But I have to do it
At my own expense
Which you know
Is neither here nor there
In some sense
But for an indefinite
Period of time
Wow
Until I've learned
Whatever the hell lesson
I'm supposed to learn
And I don't exactly know
What lesson that is
By their judgment
Right
And so
So it's all up to them
So it's kind of
This vague thing
That they've put you into
And they challenged you
Because
They were
Upset at things
You had said
On Twitter
Mostly on Twitter
No well
Okay
They also
And maybe that
Maybe this can happen today
Somebody submitted
The entire transcript
Of my last conversation
With Joe Rogan
As a complaint
Partly because
Of what I said
About climate change
Now I'm not a fan
Of climate change models
Which I think are
To call them flawed
Is to barely
Scrape the surface
But that isn't
Exactly the point
Is what happens
Is you have
Climate models
That have
Really no predictive validity
They're about as valid
As the models
That scientists use
To predict
COVID death outcomes
Right
Which tended to
Overestimate
The mortality probability
By a factor
Of about 10
They're not accurate
And a computer model
Is a hypothesis
Not data
It's a guess
Now you know
It's an intelligent guess
Or it can be
Depending on how
You model it
Anyways
On top of the
Climate models
There are
Even more radically
Unstable economic models
Saying you know
That the consequences
Of climate change
Will be catastrophic
If you look
100 years into the future
It's like
Nobody can make
An economic bet
100 years into the future
Period
Right
Period
The end
You can't even
Look
You can't even
Model a stock
Six months down the road
Much less than
The world economy
In 100 years
It's preposterous
Yeah I mean
I think there's been
So much climate
Over the years
I think you'd have to
Take a ton of things
Into consideration
You'd probably
Have to take a lot
Of things into consideration
That we don't even
Really know
Well how
Can you imagine
Trying to predict
Today's economy
100 years ago
Like
I can't even think
About how we're
Going to predict
What's going to
Happen economically
In five years
Given the rate of change
But are economic
Changes
Or patterns
As
Do they have
As many variations
As weather patterns
And climate patterns
Yeah they do
Partly because
They're dependent
On weather
And climate patterns
Right
I mean
In some ways
The economy
Is as complex
As everything
Because
Well because
You just don't know
What'll happen
If there's
Imagine
There could be
Imagine Yellowstone
Blue
You know
Yellowstone
It's Yellowstone
I believe
That's on a super volcano
It's a huge volcano
And if it blew
It would be like
You know
It would wipe out
A third of the planet
Well that would have
Economic consequences
And so
The economy
Is
You can't model
The economy
In fact
That's actually
Why the free enterprise
System works
To the degree
It does
The free exchange
Because what happens
Is that
Pricing decisions
Are made
As a consequence
Of local trades
And that
Is as good
A model
Of the underlying
Let's say
Reality
That people are
Trying to adapt to
As you can possibly manage
It's partly why
Centralized governments
Can't work
They can't compute
The load
So for example
In the Soviet times
There was a central
Pricing committee
Because they had
No pricing mechanism
Right
They couldn't figure out
What anything cost
Because there was
Snow free market
They had to make
400 pricing decisions
A day
And they had to do
Things like price nails
And it's like
Well
What's a nail worth
Yeah
And the answer is
Well
The market computes that
And in the absence
Of that answer
Well
There's no limit
To the range
Of potential value
That a nail might have
Like if there's
A nail shortage
That actually turns out
To be a really bad thing
Oh yeah
Pricing decisions
Are insanely hard to make
Oh yeah
I mean I think
Yeah I mean it's funny
They give you a lot of nails
When you buy them
But I think things
Could change
You know
I mean you could go there
And have to just get
One nail
But so
Just so
That'd be a bad day
It'd be a rough day
Yeah but you'd have to
Really use it wisely
Yeah you would
You would
Yeah you'd have
If you were going to
Pin a tail on a
You'd probably put it up
You'd probably like
Display it
Gold plated
Display it
We used to have nails
Yeah
If you're going to
Pin a tail on a dog
You better mean it
That day
But just so we stay on
So I stay in this one frame
Of like
So do you feel like
But they're
So they're challenging
Your things you've said
On social media
Right
Yeah well
So do you think
It's a challenge
Of your free speech
Is that what you feel like
Oh I
The court that ruled
Against my appeal
Essentially said
That it was a free speech issue
Ok