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The third stage would probably be some sort of Pizzagate, like, conspiratorial
processing of it.
Well there was that as well at the time, right?
So what was that at the time?
Well, that at the time is this, like, idea that I was in this, like, secret threesome
with the actual murderer
and that they were, like, so the idea was that I, like, I was openly in a
relationship with Raffaele
but secretly also in a relationship with this other, like, you know, local burglar.
Yeah, like Fleetwood Mac.
Like, they were competing for my attention and so raped my roommate for me to,
like, out-compete each other
and then hold her down while I stabbed her to death. Like, that was the story.
And then the idea that, like, I was covering it up and that Hillary Clinton was,
like, behind the scenes trying to get me acquitted.
Like, there was, it was insane the level of...
Hillary Clinton didn't try to help?
I mean, I think one time she was in, like, she went to go visit Italy on a
diplomatic thing
and somebody, like, asked, "Are you following the Amanda Knox case?" and she
was like,
"We at the State Department are aware of the case."
And everyone took that to mean that she's, like, gonna, you know, take, you
know, the FBI is gonna show up
and they're gonna break me out of prison and no one was doing that.
Thanks for nothing, Hillary.
Oh, well...
Thanks for nothing, Hillary.
There is due process, I suppose.
I know.
So, you were acquitted after four years and then there was a second trial, is
that correct?
Yes.
So, when would this entire ordeal finally, when did it feel wrapped up?
Depends on what you mean by wrapped up.
Right.
So, I was on trial for murder for eight years.
Yeah.
And then, eventually, that was, the Supreme Court in Italy definitively exonerated
me.
But, they also convicted me of a lesser crime, which was slander.
So, they said that when I was interrogated, and I was coerced into signing
statements,
that I did so knowingly and maliciously, lying to the police, and therefore, I
am a criminal
and I deserved three years in prison.
Uh-huh.
And that's a, that is a charge that I'm still fighting to this day, 18 years
later.
Um, when was the first time you returned to the United States?
That was after four years in prison.
Yeah.
What was it like for you?
Like, what were the, were the initial lingering, like, feelings you had and
what stayed?
Yeah.
And what did you have to work through?
So, this was actually a really important part that we wanted to depict in the
show,
because in a typical, like, true crime biopic, it's just like a courtroom drama.
Yeah.
And I, so again, Monica Lewinsky, who worked on this project with me, um,
really wanted
to, yeah, she's amazing.
We love her.
Um, she, it was really important to us to show this, like, long tail, like this,
like,
this, the trauma itself that happened here has a tremendously long tail, and
you're, like,
forever altered by this traumatic experience.
So, yeah, in those early days, and we depict this in the show, it's like, even
the mere ability
to open a door, just, like, took on all of this, like, symbolic weight.
And I was just, I marveled at, like, the banal.
Mm-hmm.
The fact that I could open a refrigerator and choose what I wanted to eat.
The fact that I could go from one door to, I could go from one room to another
without
an escort.
But at the same time, I'm living under tremendous amount of a new kind of
pressure, which is that
media pressure that I was a little bit insulated by from the, in the prison.
Like, I only ever encountered the media in the courtroom.
And now, suddenly, my house was surrounded.
Yeah.
There were helicopters outside my house.
Mm-hmm.
So, like, it, if, and this, like, went on for years.
I imagine there were stalkers.
I mean, I imagine there were people that were, like, obsessed with you.
Yeah.
You know, I couldn't get a regular job.
Yeah.
I couldn't, um, I couldn't make friends.
I lived in hiding for another four years while I was still undergoing trial.
And, um, and it was really hard.
How did you, uh, how did you, like, heal from that experience?
How did you, I mean, you seem like a well-adjusted individual, I gotta say.
Well, thank you very much.
Um.
You're welcome.
Yeah.
By frickin' knowing my, my value and, and having that reasserted for me by the
people I love.
Like, you know, when I first met, I, I would not be here if it weren't for my
husband, Chris,
who I met.
What up, dude?
I, like, I met him.
He's a good guy.
He's a very good guy.
Good guy, yeah.
Well, like, he didn't, when we first met each other, it was right after I had
been, um,
definitively exonerated.
Yeah.
Uh, so I wasn't facing prison time anymore.
I wasn't just, like, fighting to stay technically, you know, physically free.
And I suddenly was able to experience the world with a new sense of openness.
Uh-huh.
And he was one of the first people I made friends with afterwards.
I, I actually interviewed him for his debut novel that came out called War of
the Encyclopedists.
And so I reviewed that.
Check it out.
Check it out.
Check it out.
Check it out.
It's a great book.
I like to say I wasn't sleeping with the man until after I read it, so.
My girlfriend's never listened to a single podcast or watched a single thing I've
ever
done.
And it's, it's probably better that way.
Really?
You think that she would not want to-
Yeah, she'd probably break up with me.
Yeah, she'd break up with me.
She'd probably be like, what are you, what are you bringing up Amelie so much
for?
It's not that good.
Why you hate it?
Admit it, it's not that good.
I love that movie.
Oh my God.
I will fight you.
How could you even like that movie?
I would hate it even more if your life got ruined the night I watched Amelie.
You stupid idiot.
Amelie is the reason why I was safely in someone else's home instead of at home
getting raped
and murdered myself.
I know.
Amelie saved me.
So yeah, Amelie is a good guy or a good lady.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We love her.
She's annoying but she's a good lady.
We can admit it.
Do you often think about what your life would be like had this never happened?
I do.
And sometimes I worry that I would have been a less valuable person.
Like I do think that I carry with me, like before all this happened, I was
annoying.
I was like an annoying Amelie person who nothing bad had ever happened to.
I was annoying.
We were 20 though.
I was 20 and I had like zero perspective about the world.
Everything was like a fucking Disney princess fantasy and…
You weren't annoying.
You were figuring it out.
I was figuring it out but so was Amelie, man.
There had to be a moment where, because obviously you were under such scrutiny
when you got
back where you wanted it to probably disappear from the public eye.
When was the moment where you wanted to return to the public eye?
Like how did you become confident or empowered enough to do that?
What factored into that decision?
12 questions.
Yeah.
14.
You want some more?
Yeah, sure.
Go for it.
What happens at the end of Amelie?
I forget the ending.
Maybe it's actually a good movie.
It's sweet.
She finds another quirky guy.
So there's a Manic Pixie dream guy.
Quirky guy means that he has a shady past.
Let's be honest.
He did some things in college.
He does take pictures of people and collect them.
Yeah, it's true.
Is she okay?
They seem very happy together.
No, okay, sorry.
This is not super relevant.
No, no, no.
It's not relevant at all.
I'm sorry.
What was your previous question?
The previous question was like obviously you wanted to disappear from the
public eye probably.
Sure, yes.
And then what empowered you to re-enter public life?
So one of the issues was that yes, I wanted to hide from public life because I
wanted to just go back to being an anonymous college student and the world
wouldn't let me.
Like I kept being followed around.
Yeah.
I kept like I couldn't go to class without people taking pictures of me and
posting them.
Yeah.
So like becoming an anonymous person was not an option for me.
And I really struggled with that because I felt like there wasn't a good option
for me.
I couldn't be a private person.
But also as a public person, I was a pariah.
So what role do I have?
And I felt completely trapped.
And for a long time, like I didn't know what to do.
I just got a minimum wage job.
And I was like in a bookstore underground, literally underground, and I had no
idea what I could do.
And again, it wasn't until I was writing, you know, I was writing for a local
newspaper at the time under a pseudonym.
The Stranger?
No, not The Stranger.
The Stranger wrote really bad shit about me.
But you know what?
Was it a girl?
No, it was not.
Okay, never mind.
My theory is...
Sorry.
However, the chief editor apologized to me recently for that.
Have you been back to Italy?
Well, that is something that the show shows is when I go back to Italy and
confront my prosecutor.
But, you know, and you did ask me about that before, like what's the deal with
the prosecutor?
And one of the things that helped me sort of figure out this time of my life
where I'm still feeling really trapped was I was also struggling with the why
of it all.
Like why did this man look at me, a young woman with no precedent, no motive,
nothing, you know, connecting me to this crime.
Why did he look at me and think there's my rapist and murderer?
Like why?
And it just bothered me that this person who had harmed me probably believed
that he was doing the right thing.
So how could that be possible?
And that's why I reached out to him was to ask him.
Did he apologize?
Did you get closure?
Well, I'm not going to spoil the show for you.
You have to watch the show.
I mean, it's like...
It's eight episodes.
Before I saw Titanic, I knew that it was going to crash.
Okay, well, you know I'm going to go there.
It's his story.
No.
I mean like, well, I guess how can I ask in a way that's not a spoiler alert?
Okay, yes.
The way you can ask, it's not a spoiler alert.
Did it give you closure, right?
Did it make you feel better or whole again?
Yes.
And in a really, really surprising way.
I'm a professional.
That was a good...
Yeah, that's a good spin.
Let's go.
Yeah, no, sorry.
I totally missed you there.
That was a nice one.
Yeah, yeah.
Very profesh.
No, so go ahead.
Yeah, no.
It was like, when I figured out that my well-being didn't depend on him giving
me what I needed,
which was acknowledgement and a mea culpa.
As soon as I realized that my well-being didn't depend on his choices anymore,
it depended on
my own, then I realized that like, okay, what can I do?
What can I choose to do in this moment that will, that speaks to who I am and
what I really
believe?
And what that was, was giving him the thing that he didn't give me, which was
the benefit
of the doubt.
And I said a lot of things, which included defending myself, but which also
included acknowledging
his humanity and his belief that he was doing the right thing at the time.
Right.
And he was...
No one wants to believe that they're, like, evil.
That they're the bad guy.
Yeah.
And he made me the bad guy.
But I didn't turn him into that.
And so...
Did you want to knuckle sandwich him over here?
No.
I'm not a knuckle sandwich person.
Do you want to knuckle sandwich him?
No.
Really?
No.
I think instead...
He's a good guy.
like sit down and listen to somebody without judgment is that they become they
become fragile
and like i i can't hold this like fragile person like he is a person who is who
is struggling
himself with his legacy and with his decisions and i have sympathy for that so
no i i guess yeah it's
it's pretty inspiring what you're saying right now because you have to
recognize he's someone that
kind of ruined your life but you recognize him as a human being i suppose yeah
you know it's not like
that difficult a thing but everyone says like oh my god how did you do that and
it's like well
it's the truth like the thing that that concerns me is not the easy story where
it's like he's a
bad guy who did a bad thing that's the easy story the more true story how life
works no
it's not how life works and if you really want to be an effective person in the
world and if you
really care about the truth you have to acknowledge that like everyone thinks
they're the hero of their
own fucking story and like he he believed he was the hero and now he's being
confronted with
the fact that i'm not the monster that he thought he was that he thought i was
and now he has to reckon with that and i have great sympathy for him

Amanda Knox FORGAVE The Man Who Ruined Her Life

The third stage would probably be some sort of Pizzagate, like, conspiratorial
processing of it.
Well there was that as well at the time, right?
So what was that at the time?
Well, that at the time is this, like, idea that I was in this, like, secret threesome
with the actual murderer
and that they were, like, so the idea was that I, like, I was openly in a
relationship with Raffaele
but secretly also in a relationship with this other, like, you know, local burglar.
Yeah, like Fleetwood Mac.
Like, they were competing for my attention and so raped my roommate for me to,
like, out-compete each other
and then hold her down while I stabbed her to death. Like, that was the story.
And then the idea that, like, I was covering it up and that Hillary Clinton was,
like, behind the scenes trying to get me acquitted.
Like, there was, it was insane the level of...
Hillary Clinton didn't try to help?
I mean, I think one time she was in, like, she went to go visit Italy on a
diplomatic thing
and somebody, like, asked, "Are you following the Amanda Knox case?" and she
was like,
"We at the State Department are aware of the case."
And everyone took that to mean that she's, like, gonna, you know, take, you
know, the FBI is gonna show up
and they're gonna break me out of prison and no one was doing that.
Thanks for nothing, Hillary.
Oh, well...
Thanks for nothing, Hillary.
There is due process, I suppose.
I know.
So, you were acquitted after four years and then there was a second trial, is
that correct?
Yes.
So, when would this entire ordeal finally, when did it feel wrapped up?
Depends on what you mean by wrapped up.
Right.
So, I was on trial for murder for eight years.
Yeah.
And then, eventually, that was, the Supreme Court in Italy definitively exonerated
me.
But, they also convicted me of a lesser crime, which was slander.
So, they said that when I was interrogated, and I was coerced into signing
statements,
that I did so knowingly and maliciously, lying to the police, and therefore, I
am a criminal
and I deserved three years in prison.
Uh-huh.
And that's a, that is a charge that I'm still fighting to this day, 18 years
later.
Um, when was the first time you returned to the United States?
That was after four years in prison.
Yeah.
What was it like for you?
Like, what were the, were the initial lingering, like, feelings you had and
what stayed?
Yeah.
And what did you have to work through?
So, this was actually a really important part that we wanted to depict in the
show,
because in a typical, like, true crime biopic, it's just like a courtroom drama.
Yeah.
And I, so again, Monica Lewinsky, who worked on this project with me, um,
really wanted
to, yeah, she's amazing.
We love her.
Um, she, it was really important to us to show this, like, long tail, like this,
like,
this, the trauma itself that happened here has a tremendously long tail, and
you're, like,
forever altered by this traumatic experience.
So, yeah, in those early days, and we depict this in the show, it's like, even
the mere ability
to open a door, just, like, took on all of this, like, symbolic weight.
And I was just, I marveled at, like, the banal.
Mm-hmm.
The fact that I could open a refrigerator and choose what I wanted to eat.
The fact that I could go from one door to, I could go from one room to another
without
an escort.
But at the same time, I'm living under tremendous amount of a new kind of
pressure, which is that
media pressure that I was a little bit insulated by from the, in the prison.
Like, I only ever encountered the media in the courtroom.
And now, suddenly, my house was surrounded.
Yeah.
There were helicopters outside my house.
Mm-hmm.
So, like, it, if, and this, like, went on for years.
I imagine there were stalkers.
I mean, I imagine there were people that were, like, obsessed with you.
Yeah.
You know, I couldn't get a regular job.
Yeah.
I couldn't, um, I couldn't make friends.
I lived in hiding for another four years while I was still undergoing trial.
And, um, and it was really hard.
How did you, uh, how did you, like, heal from that experience?
How did you, I mean, you seem like a well-adjusted individual, I gotta say.
Well, thank you very much.
Um.
You're welcome.
Yeah.
By frickin' knowing my, my value and, and having that reasserted for me by the
people I love.
Like, you know, when I first met, I, I would not be here if it weren't for my
husband, Chris,
who I met.
What up, dude?
I, like, I met him.
He's a good guy.
He's a very good guy.
Good guy, yeah.
Well, like, he didn't, when we first met each other, it was right after I had
been, um,
definitively exonerated.
Yeah.
Uh, so I wasn't facing prison time anymore.
I wasn't just, like, fighting to stay technically, you know, physically free.
And I suddenly was able to experience the world with a new sense of openness.
Uh-huh.
And he was one of the first people I made friends with afterwards.
I, I actually interviewed him for his debut novel that came out called War of
the Encyclopedists.
And so I reviewed that.
Check it out.
Check it out.
Check it out.
Check it out.
It's a great book.
I like to say I wasn't sleeping with the man until after I read it, so.
My girlfriend's never listened to a single podcast or watched a single thing I've
ever
done.
And it's, it's probably better that way.
Really?
You think that she would not want to-
Yeah, she'd probably break up with me.
Yeah, she'd break up with me.
She'd probably be like, what are you, what are you bringing up Amelie so much
for?
It's not that good.
Why you hate it?
Admit it, it's not that good.
I love that movie.
Oh my God.
I will fight you.
How could you even like that movie?
I would hate it even more if your life got ruined the night I watched Amelie.
You stupid idiot.
Amelie is the reason why I was safely in someone else's home instead of at home
getting raped
and murdered myself.
I know.
Amelie saved me.
So yeah, Amelie is a good guy or a good lady.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We love her.
She's annoying but she's a good lady.
We can admit it.
Do you often think about what your life would be like had this never happened?
I do.
And sometimes I worry that I would have been a less valuable person.
Like I do think that I carry with me, like before all this happened, I was
annoying.
I was like an annoying Amelie person who nothing bad had ever happened to.
I was annoying.
We were 20 though.
I was 20 and I had like zero perspective about the world.
Everything was like a fucking Disney princess fantasy and…
You weren't annoying.
You were figuring it out.
I was figuring it out but so was Amelie, man.
There had to be a moment where, because obviously you were under such scrutiny
when you got
back where you wanted it to probably disappear from the public eye.
When was the moment where you wanted to return to the public eye?
Like how did you become confident or empowered enough to do that?
What factored into that decision?
12 questions.
Yeah.
14.
You want some more?
Yeah, sure.
Go for it.
What happens at the end of Amelie?
I forget the ending.
Maybe it's actually a good movie.
It's sweet.
She finds another quirky guy.
So there's a Manic Pixie dream guy.
Quirky guy means that he has a shady past.
Let's be honest.
He did some things in college.
He does take pictures of people and collect them.
Yeah, it's true.
Is she okay?
They seem very happy together.
No, okay, sorry.
This is not super relevant.
No, no, no.
It's not relevant at all.
I'm sorry.
What was your previous question?
The previous question was like obviously you wanted to disappear from the
public eye probably.
Sure, yes.
And then what empowered you to re-enter public life?
So one of the issues was that yes, I wanted to hide from public life because I
wanted to just go back to being an anonymous college student and the world
wouldn't let me.
Like I kept being followed around.
Yeah.
I kept like I couldn't go to class without people taking pictures of me and
posting them.
Yeah.
So like becoming an anonymous person was not an option for me.
And I really struggled with that because I felt like there wasn't a good option
for me.
I couldn't be a private person.
But also as a public person, I was a pariah.
So what role do I have?
And I felt completely trapped.
And for a long time, like I didn't know what to do.
I just got a minimum wage job.
And I was like in a bookstore underground, literally underground, and I had no
idea what I could do.
And again, it wasn't until I was writing, you know, I was writing for a local
newspaper at the time under a pseudonym.
The Stranger?
No, not The Stranger.
The Stranger wrote really bad shit about me.
But you know what?
Was it a girl?
No, it was not.
Okay, never mind.
My theory is...
Sorry.
However, the chief editor apologized to me recently for that.
Have you been back to Italy?
Well, that is something that the show shows is when I go back to Italy and
confront my prosecutor.
But, you know, and you did ask me about that before, like what's the deal with
the prosecutor?
And one of the things that helped me sort of figure out this time of my life
where I'm still feeling really trapped was I was also struggling with the why
of it all.
Like why did this man look at me, a young woman with no precedent, no motive,
nothing, you know, connecting me to this crime.
Why did he look at me and think there's my rapist and murderer?
Like why?
And it just bothered me that this person who had harmed me probably believed
that he was doing the right thing.
So how could that be possible?
And that's why I reached out to him was to ask him.
Did he apologize?
Did you get closure?
Well, I'm not going to spoil the show for you.
You have to watch the show.
I mean, it's like...
It's eight episodes.
Before I saw Titanic, I knew that it was going to crash.
Okay, well, you know I'm going to go there.
It's his story.
No.
I mean like, well, I guess how can I ask in a way that's not a spoiler alert?
Okay, yes.
The way you can ask, it's not a spoiler alert.
Did it give you closure, right?
Did it make you feel better or whole again?
Yes.
And in a really, really surprising way.
I'm a professional.
That was a good...
Yeah, that's a good spin.
Let's go.
Yeah, no, sorry.
I totally missed you there.
That was a nice one.
Yeah, yeah.
Very profesh.
No, so go ahead.
Yeah, no.
It was like, when I figured out that my well-being didn't depend on him giving
me what I needed,
which was acknowledgement and a mea culpa.
As soon as I realized that my well-being didn't depend on his choices anymore,
it depended on
my own, then I realized that like, okay, what can I do?
What can I choose to do in this moment that will, that speaks to who I am and
what I really
believe?
And what that was, was giving him the thing that he didn't give me, which was
the benefit
of the doubt.
And I said a lot of things, which included defending myself, but which also
included acknowledging
his humanity and his belief that he was doing the right thing at the time.
Right.
And he was...
No one wants to believe that they're, like, evil.
That they're the bad guy.
Yeah.
And he made me the bad guy.
But I didn't turn him into that.
And so...
Did you want to knuckle sandwich him over here?
No.
I'm not a knuckle sandwich person.
Do you want to knuckle sandwich him?
No.
Really?
No.
I think instead...
He's a good guy.
like sit down and listen to somebody without judgment is that they become they
become fragile
and like i i can't hold this like fragile person like he is a person who is who
is struggling
himself with his legacy and with his decisions and i have sympathy for that so
no i i guess yeah it's
it's pretty inspiring what you're saying right now because you have to
recognize he's someone that
kind of ruined your life but you recognize him as a human being i suppose yeah
you know it's not like
that difficult a thing but everyone says like oh my god how did you do that and
it's like well
it's the truth like the thing that that concerns me is not the easy story where
it's like he's a
bad guy who did a bad thing that's t