Name: Joe Rogan Experience #346 - Douglas Rushkoff
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #346 - Douglas Rushkoff' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2013-04-03. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #346 - Douglas Rushkoff

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the music
okay do you know how to do it it's kind of got too much tobacco in here
the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day
too loud it's all right yeah i'm sorry we have an adjustment thing here if it's
too loud we can
actually lower your volume where you at are you this one right here yeah is
that better yeah is that
better for you yeah yeah okay cool sorry about that didn't mean to blow your
ears off um thanks for
joining join us thanks for having me douglas rushkoff if you uh do not know of
him is uh would you
call yourself a media analyst what would you call yourself media theorist media
author mainly author
mainly yeah and uh your new book is called present shock when uh everything
happens all at once is
that what everything happens now and then when everything happens now um i i
saw uh quite a few
of your videos online they're really uh really really interesting conversations
and one of them that really
struck me was um you well there were several of them that struck me but one of
them was your
story of being mugged and you you told people on an online room like where you
got mugged and people
were upset that you in telling them that you got in telling the world that you
got mugged there it was
lowering their property values yeah that was a bad one um that's so crazy yeah
i mean it was one thing to get
mugged which is kind of freaky in itself uh you know and whatever you know
shame and weirdness goes with
that but um i guess what i was trying to do i mean deep down was probably illicit
you know love and
affection from people on my list you know so i put up oh you know and there was
a social some social
responsibility to it so i put up where i got mugged because everyone should
know this is maybe a dangerous
stretch here we got to maybe get a light but um yeah so i sent i sent it out
and then
the first two emails i got back from this like loving list of parents was how
dare you say
exactly where it happened you know we live right across the street you know you're
going to lower
our property values i'm like are you selling now is that is that no we're not
selling but it was a
really weird time when people needed their property values to go up because
they were trying to get
bigger mortgages and pay down and do all that um and it was just like so panicky
there about that
that some you know someone was afraid oh what if a newspaper covers it and it's
bad and what if it's
so weird when ones and zeros trump humanity you know and in that case that's
exactly what that is
that's ones and zeros trump humanity well yeah and two kinds of ones and zeros
you know the the ones and
zeros of money yeah you know and the ones and zeros of sort of of digital
technology which i think
can create a kind of a distance because you're not feeling the impact of saying
that to someone's face
yeah yeah there's a weird communication that takes place online that's you know
it doesn't have any
consequence you know you can you can do it anonymously and there's this it's
like these barbs that you can
just send out and illogically like in in in ways that you would never if you
had to deal with someone
one-on-one because you would feel it you would look at them you would feel the
response you would be
like why are you saying this like like why why are you being such an asshole
but because you are anonymous
right so people are just like in this unnatural communication thing right but
then the the part
that then worries me after that is if you get used to doing it like that in an
anonymous way online
does that start to make the behavior a bit more normative when you're even with
your identity
oh i guarantee it has to it's it has to there's there's no free rides when it
comes to that i really
feel like your thoughts your connect like there was always a thing i remember
when i was in high school
this someone in my school newspaper wrote like a funny critique about the boy
scouts and one of the
things that he didn't like about the boy scouts was that they wanted you to
keep your thoughts pure
and he was like you know well my thoughts are my own thoughts you know i'm just
as long as i don't
do anything i don't think there's anything wrong with my thoughts right not
that was really smartly
argued i remember reading that going wow this kid's pretty clever but then i
thought about him like
but you if you're thinking about creepy you probably are kind of creepy you
know and it's it's not
going to get any better just you know you're just going to eventually one day
you're going to snap
and then you're going to do something creepy thing yeah if you really are like
the i don't know i mean
everyone has their own definition of thoughts being pure you know like a more
lenient person might
allow a lot of like healthy sexual things in the idea of thoughts being pure as
long as it's not creepy
but there's other people that would just sit around and say well let me just
think about creepy all day
and not do it and i'm fine but you're not there's no free ride there may be
though you think so i mean
well i mean what you're describing what you're describing is you know the
benefits of an absolute
police state as long as it was always right you know that's no problem you know
that's the problem
i mean then you can always get your minority report you know just in case maybe
they're wrong not really
subscribing that i'm just saying that you really be nice you can't have really
shitty thoughts and get
through and i think that if you're really shitty online you have those thoughts
even if it's only online
i really believe that negative energy is going to leak over genuinely shitty i
mean it's just how do you
decide what's what's what's shitty and what's not but yeah no it's people when
they're the meaner you
are online without your face the meaning you can be online with your face and
the meaning you can get
in real life you know until you just got mean people do you investigate people's
twitter like if
someone says you something weird on twitter do you go to their twitter page and
see just all their
cunty that they write to everybody and go oh they're just a crazy guy well i
will admit
i focus way more on the cunty tweets and emails and things and on the ones that
are positive loving
and positive i'll get like 10 emails oh your book was great oh i loved it you've
changed my life my
children you know worship at your altar he's like delete delete delete delete
what's wrong with you
reshkoff who is this guy your book's hot what yeah this is the biggest piece of
shit i've ever r