Name: Joe Rogan Experience #396 - Stefan Molyneux
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #396 - Stefan Molyneux' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2013-09-24. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #396 - Stefan Molyneux

And Stéphane Molyneux, if you correct me, that's your name, right?
That is pretty damn good.
I mean, you would not believe the deviations.
I think some people just cough it up as a cling-on hairball.
I don't know what the hell they're doing with my name.
Stéphane Molyneux! Whoa!
It's French, correct?
Yeah, but it's like French French, not like Quebec French.
Oh, okay. What is the difference between Quebec French and French French?
Um, well, you know, like the Queen and Cockney.
The difference, right? So Quebec French is like the gutter, at least by the
French they consider to be the gutter, the gutter French.
Oh, how rude.
I know, it's very rude.
They're going to be very nice people. How rude.
Yeah, they're very nice people indeed.
And for the French to look down on people after the Second World War, it takes
a lot. Anyway.
For folks listening to this, we're in Toronto right now.
This is the first time I've met Stéphane.
I met him just a few moments ago down in the lobby, but I've seen a lot of your
internet videos.
And I was particularly impressed with several of them, but really the Trayvon
Martin one.
I think you covered that better than anyone I saw online, on TV, in the media.
You gave a real, you know, the quote, the Fox fair and balanced, you gave a
real fair and balanced approach to that subject.
And to me personally, as a human being, that was one of the most frustrating
events of our day.
Not just because a young man lost his life, not just because of the race baiting
that went on with it, but the cloudy, muddy thinking that I felt was perpetrated
by the media and by politicians and by all these people that were looking to
capitalize on that event.
The thinking was so disingenuous and they were showing these photos of him when
he was like a fucking baby.
You know, it was really confusing stuff to me.
And actually, if you looked at George Zimmerman over time, the pictures got
wider and wider.
Like they actually applied photo retouching to make him look wider.
Oh yeah, it was, I mean, it was, it was like Gestapo style propaganda. It was
just wretched.
Wow. I didn't know that they did that.
And you know, they edited his 911 call, right?
Really?
Yeah. So, so Zimmerman called and he said, there's some suspicious guy rolling
around the neighborhood.
Right.
And then the dispatcher said, what is his race? And he said, well, I think he's
black.
And NBC edited out the question. So it sounded like there's this suspicious guy
rolling around the neighborhood. I think he's black.
Like he just, you know, he was actually responding to a question. They edited
that out.
The woman lost her job and then he's now suing NBC for defamation because they
edited it to make him sound like a racist.
Well, you know, I don't know if it's really bright for him to be involved any
further in the legal system.
But I think, you know, what they did was, it was horrendous. It was very
strange. It was very strange to watch.
You know what my approach, and you know, you always say we want to live in a
colorblind society and I think that would be great.
So for me, I always try to try and look at it like, well, what if he wasn't
black? What if he was just some other white guy?
What if they were both black or what if they were both rainbow colored with
dolphin heads? I don't know. Right.
But what if it had nothing to do with the black energy around race, the
negative energy around race?
And so for me, I really just wanted to look at it like, you know, that Joe
Friday thing, you know, what are the facts? What are the facts? What are the
facts?
Because I really have strengths driven and it's hard to do in this culture to
just treat people like color doesn't matter.
And that means you don't get to play the race car. Yeah. You know, and I think
it really would be great if we could achieve that.
Yeah. It seems so hard for people to get to. Well, it's too common. It's like
it's almost it's just a natural part of our culture.
We've that pattern has been so firmly established. That path has been so deeply
carved that people just slide right into it.
Yeah. Well, I wonder, too, you know, this this horrible shooting that just
happened in the Navy Yards in Washington, Alexis.
I wonder I there's no proof of this yet. So all bullshit hypotheticals.
But I wonder if this guy was a black guy and apparently he had a real chip on
his shoulder about, you know, I'm not going to get ahead because they hate me.
The whitey hates me and all that. He had a real chip on his shoulder about
being black and trying to get ahead in a white world or whatever.
I wonder if the degree to which they did not intervene in his obviously escalating
mental health problems was because they were afraid that he was going to launch
some complaint about racism or something like that.
I wonder if that actually scares people off from dealing with people just like
they're human beings because they're afraid of that card getting pulled and
then getting dragged into something god awful.
Yeah. Well, it's almost like we're still responding to the echoes of the
imbalance of the past that, you know, the slavery era echoes and the civil
rights era echoes of the 50s and 60s.
It's almost like we're still not even the ship hasn't we haven't made it level
yet.
You know, it's almost like that's why this stuff is still tolerated. It's it's
very confusing to me, though, when it's it's so obvious and so blatant like it
was in this case.
It's also very frustrating to me because as a person who deals with a lot of
martial artists and a lot of people with anger issues who have become, you know,
really incredible members of society and really admirable human beings.
People who have learned to harness this this frustrated energy that a lot of
young men have if they grow up in confused households or whether they're absentee
parents or bad neighborhoods or whatever the factors are that lead them to be
these angry people that can be channeled and it can be channeled into a way
that develops character and it doesn't happen.
So when I see a guy like Trayvon Martin do what he does and get shot and die
and all this, I see a massive loss of potential just as a human being, a young
human being, you know, a young human being that commits crimes or does bad
things, but 18 is not even necessarily a bad person.
What they are more than anything is just misused potential and misguided. A
human being is so incredibly complex.
There's so many facets and aspects to being a person and developing as a
productive member of society that it needs guidance. And most people don't get
that guidance and it's up to them to kind of find it.
I mean, you see an unbelievable tragedy like that. I always think of like all
the turns and the steps and the other possibilities that might have happened,
early intervention, some teacher somewhere, some relative or someone who would
have just seen something going off the rails and really stepped in and made a
difference.
I think that tidal wave can be stopped early. I think once it gains real
momentum, it's tough later on.
It's very tough.
But, you know, early intervention, really, really seeing people who are going
off the rails and then really working to intervene.
If we could get that down as a society, oh man, I think we'd live in a
different world.
We would. I absolutely agree with you. We would live in a different world.
But it is very, very, very difficult to do, incredibly difficult to pull
someone out of that momentum, the momentum of being a bad person and, you know,
and almost reveling in it, you know, which is a big aspect of, you know,
gangster rap.
Well, you know, they've done some really interesting studies because, you know,
just over the last 10 to 15 years, they can really see inside the brain.
Like for the first time ever, these fMRIs, they can really see inside the brain.
Yeah.
And they found people who've been identified as sadists and they show them, you
know, pictures of people being hurt intentionally and they're like happy joy
centers light up.
They're little like brain gasms light up.
Yeah.
That's so messed up.
It's incredible.
You know, because it's like opposite planet, you know, because we all think, we've
got this thing from religion.
Like everyone has a soul and we're all kind of equal, all made in the image of
God and this and that and the other.
But it's according to the people I've talked to in the research that I've done.
I mean, there's some real predators among us who really are not kind of like us
at all.
Yeah.
And it's somebody who like sees, you know, some cat being driven over and he
giggles and like finds that really quite thrilling.
I mean, that, I didn't even know what species that is.
But I think there are a lot, enough people out there that they make life kind
of difficult for the rest of us.
Yeah.
It's a real issue.
It's very scary.
And how are these people becoming that?
Is it because of nature or nurture?
Is it because of, you know, abuse that they've personally suffered that sort of
stimulated?
Seems to be, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, this is the fascinating thing about epigenetics, right?
So, I mean, when I was a kid growing up, there was this nature versus nurture.
Like you got your genes, that's what you're born with, right?
And then maybe you can influence it a bit with nature.
But what they're finding out now is that genes turn on and off depending on
experience.
So they found that if you have a particular gene and you're a boy and you are
physically abused as a child, almost for certain you're going to end up, you
know, on the bad side of things.
Like you're going to end up violent, aggressive, criminal, jail, whatever,
right?
Now, if you don't have that gene, you're abused, likelihood, but it's less.
And so certain genes for aggression get turned on and strengthened based upon
your experiences.
You can end up, like twins who grew up in different households can end up with
different genetics based on their environment.
So that's what's so important about, you know, something I focus a lot on is
the parenting, parenting, parenting.
It seems to me so many people are out there and they're just so messed up.
Like you just, you can't rewind and you can't send them down a different path.
But if you kind of look at the next generation, the next generation, what if we
could get the percentage of people spanking their children down from 90 percent?
I mean, it seems so weird in the 21st century that that's how parents are
really focused on being a kid.
Is it still 90 percent?
Depending on where you count it, 80 to 90 percent.
It's less so in Europe.
Like in Sweden, I think it's been banned since like 1973.
And you all know what a hellhole Sweden is.
I mean, yeah, they're doing fine.
But, yeah, it's still 80 to 90 percent in, well, it's legal here.
It's legal in America.
From 2 to 12, you can hit a child in Canada legally, just not in the face and
not with an implement.
So it's just, and of course, these are the most vulnerable, tender, helpless,
dependent, you know, lack of freedom members of society.
And, but it's, you know, it's hard to see how a weird society that we have.
You had this great bit last night.
Go see the show.
If anyone has listened to this is my show.
But you had this great bit like, what if space aliens come down and try and
understand?
You had Kim Kardashian, which of course is tough enough.
But what if they tried to understand our culture?
It wouldn't make much sense.
But you realize that the hierarchies and everything that we have, that the wars,
the prisons, for prisons you need prison guards.
For wars you need soldiers.
You can't get healthy, happy, well-adjusted people to go out and do that kind
of stuff.
Yeah.
So I think our whole society relies upon the maltreatment of children.
And if we didn't have that, a lot of people who've got a lot of money and power
right now would kind of find themselves out in the cold.
Yeah, I don't necessarily think that it's engineered that way.
But I certainly think 