Name: Joe Rogan Experience #524 - Rickson Gracie & Eddie Bravo
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Joe Rogan Experience #524 - Rickson Gracie & Eddie Bravo

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And my brother, Eddie Bravo.
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First of all, thank you very much for doing this.
I appreciate it.
Out of all the people online, whenever things get brought up for mixed martial
arts guests
or jujitsu guests, it's always get Hicks and Gracie on the podcast.
So the clouds have parted, the stars have aligned and you're here and we
appreciate it very much.
I'm very thankful too, Joe and Eddie, to be with you guys here and have this
conversation.
It's funny because last time we talked in my house, a while ago, of course, you
make me some questions,
you're curious, you're all about knowing what has in my mind.
And at this point, I was the talker and, you know, in the past and the time
goes by.
And today, I can see after all this process of evolutionary process in the MMA
and the martial arts world,
I mean, since then, I've been watching you doing your job, commenting fights,
analyzing other fighters.
And today, I can see, man, you are red belt in the whole extension of the world.
You know everything.
You, I mean, if I have a question, I have to call you and ask you what's up
because I'm very, very, I mean,
impressed with your career, with your charisma, with the way you position your
opinions.
And it's all very precise.
So I'm very happy to be here and discuss some talks and talk with you here.
Thank you, brother.
That's an honor to me.
And it was an honor for me to hang out with you that night.
It was really cool for, we had dinner with your family and then we watched some
fights.
And it was really interesting watching fights with you and watching you break
down positions
and break down mistakes that people were making.
And I've told a lot of people about that, man.
I've told a lot of people about that night.
That documentary, Choke, that is one documentary that I've told people.
If you're really interested in Jiu-Jitsu, you really want to find out, you know,
what the spirit of Jiu-Jitsu is all about,
watch the documentary, Choke.
That documentary is so inspirational.
They followed you, was it in 94, 95?
Yeah, 95 going to 96.
95 going into 96 and you were fighting in Japan in the Japan Valley Tudo and it
documented a lot of your training
and it documented your philosophy.
And, man, whenever, if ever I need some motivation, I'll slap that DVD on.
You just get fired up.
You want to go do some yoga on the beach or something.
Yeah.
You know?
It was fun.
How did that come about?
What?
That documentary.
Oh, it was a project with a student of mine who was working with the polygram
and also the comp.
So we decided to follow up to the event.
And so they have a crew following a couple of fighters and I'll follow myself
to see what's going to happen at the event.
So it was a nice introduction to a preparation, to the mindset of a fighter,
either myself or Todd Haynes, who was another,
and also the Japanese guy who was also involved in the filming.
So it was a cool, primal experience to an MMA fight like a Valetudo fight.
Well, it's very eye-opening for a lot of fighters who looked at mixed martial
arts.
A lot of them come from a wrestling background and they looked at mixed martial
arts more of like as a sport.
Just be tough.
You know, you got to get up.
You got to train hard.
You got to run hard.
You got to lift hard.
And your philosophy was much more like a samurai.
Your philosophy was much deeper, much more meditation-based.
And we got to see you doing yoga.
I think you opened up a lot of people's eyes to a different mindset involved in
preparation, but also to yoga.
That was the first time I had ever seen a martial artist that was really into
yoga.
Yes.
I think for the athlete in general, the understanding of the breathing is a big
plus because by hyperventilating, you stretch your physical potential.
By knowing how to breathe properly, you relax.
You can bring your heart beats lower.
There's a lot of elements in the breathing who are involved with controlling
emotions, getting more energy, and so on.
So as I get exposed to breathing properly, I get addicted, and I felt like it
was a huge element of, you know, in addition to the techniques, in addition to
the heart and to the heart training, learning the breathing is a huge
beneficial thing for the athlete.
Now you see athletes, like tennis players, they're playing, breathing, and the
breathing, the breath is much more into the sport today.
So it's a process of knowing.
Now I see Crohn, my son, he's, I mean, before he's just like, see, oh, Dad, I
see you training and breathing, but now he's coming to me and said, Dad, this
makes all the difference in the world when I really, you know, start to getting
tired, to make hyperventilation and keep my mind, like, sharp.
Because sometimes if you get tired, there's not enough oxygen in the blood to
feel your sharpness in your mind, so you become a little stupid, a little
slower, you know, so by having a good knowing how to hyperventilate, you're
able to maximize this oxygen, so even though the acetylactic take over your
body, your mind is still sharp and you're still responding accordingly, so it's
a great thing to do.
And you were born into the greatest jiu-jitsu family, the greatest martial arts
family of all time.
I mean, there's no doubt about it.
There's no, there's not even a second place.
There's the Gracie family, and then there's, you know, there's a, I guess you
could have a debate about who comes in second, but it's kind of ridiculous.
That is the number one martial arts family of all time.
And you obviously learned jiu-jitsu from a very early age, but how did you get
involved into the yoga?
Oh, it was, you know, was, I'm very happy to, to be related.
With this master called Orlando Cunni, which was the precursor of the ginastica
natural.
I was learning in the same time, Alvaro Romano, who is the guy who is now
making the tapes.
We're learning together, you know, and at that point, I was just practicing
with him.
Like, hello, my, my father, he's an older guy who's a very tough athlete and
also a yoga teacher.
So he combined, he developed some kind of style of yoga, which is not exactly a
postural, like postures and breathing to relax or to achieve meditation.
It was more like an active breathing for athletes.
And in order for you to jump higher, you have to know how to, to have harmony
between your, your jump and your breathing.
You want to keep more strength for more long time.
You have to know how to breathe accordingly to, to promote that.
So he has always, he always in the active, active breathing.
And then we kind of, we started doing privates and I was in his place for, you
know, for a couple of months.
He's guiding me through the, the moves in front of a mirror in a nice room.
One day, um, we about to start the class and soon we about to start, uh, he, he
was calling the phone and he said to me,
Hickson, you keep going and I'll be right back.
So for the first time I was able to breathe, make my routine without follow him
up, without having my mind focused on what he was doing.
So I start to breathe and move and breathe and move.
And then because has some woods on the walls, kind of, we kind of imitate
monkeys to climb the wood and stuff.
So in one point I come back to reality and then I was on top of the highest
frame in the wall, sweating like a pig.
And then I look around and start to come back to reality.
And I saw him on the corner crying.
And then I said, what's up, man?
What's going on?
I said, man, you don't have to learn anything else from me.
You achieve the highest level of, kept, get empty mind.
And then I kind of said, why say that?
I said, yeah, because you're here for an hour, 15 minutes and completely off.
I mean, you didn't notice anything because he was applying the development of
the animal instinct,
which takes your brain off, your, your mind, your, your concentration and keep
you more like a instinctive animal.
And that was the, the vision and through this, because before that I was doing
transcendental meditation.
I did traditional yoga and, and those never did great for me in the meditation.
I was sleeping and it's not by doing that kind of routine.
I was able to not just breathing properly, but also achieve empty mind.
And I was like in a state, a meditation, meditation state for a long time, like
not concentrating in anything like rational.
Oh, he's there or he's.
So I was able to get, achieve like a, I empty mind.
And after I noticed that I started to practice my routines to, to get that same
feeling of emptiness.
And that kind of meditation works for me as no