Name: "In The Lab" with Kid Cudi (from Joe Rogan Experience #552)
Uploaded: 2014-10-02T20:07:03.000Z
Description: Watch the stand-up comedy video '"In The Lab" with Kid Cudi (from Joe Rogan Experience #552)' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2014-10-02. Transcript available.

Watch the stand-up comedy video '"In The Lab" with Kid Cudi (from Joe Rogan Experience #552)' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2014-10-02. Transcript available.

"In The Lab" with Kid Cudi (from Joe Rogan Experience #552)

Hello freak bitches
Yeah, I just feel like
There's a certain amount of energy that people get from wanting to prove other
folks wrong
Yeah, no for sure for sure and it can it can help you in some ways
It can certainly help you but I think sometimes even like when you're talking
about the benefits you had a cocaine
Like there's benefits to it. It's like you could say things and do things he
ordinarily wouldn't be able to do
Yeah, well this there's the motivation of of like proving people wrong, you
know, I'll show you
You know, you said I wasn't gonna be shit
I'll show you like you get to a certain point time that could kind of play
against you too, right?
Yes, it could backfire because then it becomes it for me
it becomes like and I
Definitely did my last not the album. I did my album before last with that an
angry
Mmm, I'll show you right full like villainous energy, right?
You know, and I was able to make some really great records, but it was the most
aggressive music I had ever made, right?
and um
Some of it was the most aggressive on a lot of levels not even in the mean way,
but just like you know, just the music itself
and that and I benefited did the the you know what I
Set out to do, you know, it all benefited, you know, but I
Didn't it wasn't the normal way. I went out about making an album
So it was weird, you know, and it was something that I took a step backward
afterwards and then dropped the second album
I'm like alright, this one's not so I'm I don't
Really feel like I'm like going, you know up against the masses like I really
have something to prove here
This is more just like about like just being at some type of peace
You know and just having things sorted out once all the madness is all done and
it's kind of just like now
It's just like right right, you know, and that's why I did indica another
satellite flight
You know because I feel like in the cub was me just figuring out how to produce
You know and make records and then satellite fight was me
Having it mastered and finally putting together something that was just like
fine-tuned
You know but took it in a different structure where I have like some instrumentals
and then you know with you know
They're kind of like interludes and then you know records that
But just completely you know formatted in different ways
Maybe not the three verse
to hook formula maybe just one long verse and one outro and you know, maybe no
hook at all
Maybe no drums for the first minute and 30 seconds, but there's like raps
You know just experiment and trying things you know not that I had that
expertise with creating a record, you know
Did you ever listen to the brand new heavies? I?
Know some records here the brand new heavies did this rap but thing where they're
god. I was trying to remember the name of it
There's a but it was it's along those lines like very experimental and this is
like back in like the early 90s. Yeah, they did like
Cool G rap did one of them and it did it like to like some like actual music
behind it
Like it was pretty interesting stuff
But I remember that and I remember thinking like man
Like why don't more people do like weird shit with music?
Like how many people are thinking the way you're thinking like saying like okay?
How about we just do no drums for like the first minute and a half and then
just start rapping and then the drums kick it like these kind of things
Were you just like coming up with like just a different approach? Yeah,
slightly different entry
I think people are just a little scared that they'll lose the audience's
attention, which is the very
Real fear. It's I get it, you know, but it also goes back to what I was saying
I've just been blessed with a family stat like, you know, it's into what I'm
doing no matter what, you know
and that's
That's just dope, you know, but the average artists know they can't just
experiment and there's a fear
Where they might not sell records and then that's bad for business and this is
a business, you know
So, you know, um
It's it's understood why most guys don't really do it, you know, I would like
to see people do it
I feel like there's that's not an excuse
I feel like there's a way where people can be a little bit more creative and
push the envelope a lot more with the music
Where it fits in in a in a way that makes sense and it's true to their their
art
In their formula, I feel like that. Yeah, there's always a way to try something
new and be innovative and bring something different to the table
if anybody wants to check out that that brand new heavies that I was talking
about it's called heavy rhyme experience
And it was the brand new heavies. It was 92 way back in the day when I was I
was living in New York and
My friend god damn it trying to remember his name stand-up comedian told me
about him
He goes you got to listen to this shit. These guys are doing some weird stuff.
They did a
Duo with cool G rap. They did one of them with a gang star. It was pretty
badass
That a bunch of different
Collaboration so like jazz singers was like rap like serious like best of the
class back then
Hardcore rappers rapping over their their run or their music. It's pretty cool.
Oh, wow
Yeah, but your your point about having the fan base that allows you to fuck
around and practice and take chances
That is huge isn't it like this the my ability that you know
They they like you as a person as well as like your music so and they want you
they want to see where you go with it
Yeah, it's you're always gonna do your best well, they know it comes from a
pure place to me. No, I'm not like
They know I'm just trying to make some cool shit that they can connect with and
that's the extent every time
It doesn't go beyond that and the minute it tries to it just starts to get
frustrating
I start thinking about a radio record to please somebody at the label then it
gets frustrating if I start to think about this and that
For this it gets frustrating if I keep it just based on like amen
and this sounds gnarly and let's make sure we it's not
too trippy and let's make sure it's not to this and not to that but
Effortless combination of everything all at once, you know, and and and that's
really what
These past couple years for me have been like just mastering that
technique as a producer and
You know really really just
Going all out creatively and just trying new things because I also internally
don't feel like I have anything else to prove
as a musician, but I
Have that itch, you know, like I need to create like I feel like
That's it's like working out for me. It's like doing reps and staying
mentally fit creatively fit, you know
So when it comes time to do an album, I've got some new powers. I've acquired
in the past year just like you know from just
Dicking around in the studio for a couple months. It's going every day making
beats whether I'm in the studio for five hours or two hours
I'm making something I'm making at least like on average I make about
In the studio I'm making at least two to four beats a day and when I say beats
I'm talking about completed
sequenced
Instrumentals that I could make records on so like not just some shit
I started a little bit and then it's kind of cool and I'll get back to it later.
I have
Probably like a Baker's dozen of those in one session
But I'll have like four that are officially like all these jams are dope
I'm gonna sit and live with these and see what comes up
So when you sit down to write music, do you do you sit down and do you have an
idea in your head?
Or do you select let it come to you while you're there? Like how do you know
how to start?
Um, it
It comes different every time it doesn't um
It depends it could be a baseline that I'm thinking of
that inspires me or it could be
me not have anything in my mind and just going through the sounds
or it could be like, you know, a rhythm I heard or
You know anything it could be a movie. I'm watching right like to you know
produce while I'm watching movies with the sound off
Um and that kind of helps me with scoring you know when I get into scoring and
I'm you know doing that's my next step
You know I want to get more into scoring movies
And sound design
um
But it's all for me
It's all just experimentation and just seeing what happens and and you know
But it's not any pressure and when you hear a beat like when you're making a
beat and you're creating it
Do you hear in lyrics? Are you hearing are you thinking about?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm here. I mean
Here's you know, when I when I'm hearing something I hear it completed, right?
So when I'm starting a record and I feel like I got something I'm like, all
right this song I'm like
I feel like in this back to what you were talking about because
You know, I feel like you know time doesn't really exist. So
An hour from now is happening right now, right?
So there's songs that are created that I haven't made yet
So when I'm in the studio, I feel like I have this small like peek into this
other
World in this window that I can hear the song
But it's my job in the present to find the pieces to make it so
And sometimes it might come out exactly like what i'm hearing and sometimes it
might not but it's never it's never really spot on
You know, I just hear glimmers of what the song completed sounds like until it's
completed and then it's just everything's perfect
But that's how I can sit there and listen to a mix and be like something's off
because in my completed version
You know, it's like a coloring book
Every record starts off in one way just blank and i'm just filling in all the
colors and then there's one color still missing
You know, that's what's happening in the final in the ninth inning, you know,
when we're mixing the album
I mean, there's still some colors that just
Not in there yet
And then i'm going through sounds and I find the colors and everything's full
and i'm cool
Or I might not find the exact color, but some close enough i'm fine
And like that's literally where it's at where
You have to make the executive decision like all right i'm done with this
I'll be sitting for another two weeks trying to sit with this mix because i'm
really anal about it
And if i don't just back away and let it be
You know, we'll never hear that's a fascinating insight into the creation of
music
I don't um, i don't know anybody
That does that like well where they could tell me about the entire process from
the beginning to end
So it's interesting to get a window into that world because i always wondered
and i also always wondered like
I know jay-z never writes his lyrics down he keeps them all in his head
Do you do that or do you actually write them down somewhere um nah?
Sometimes i'm sometimes i mean a lot of my hooks are in my head but i need to
write
You know certain things and down to just kind of make sure i'm making sense
I used to do a lot of my earlier stuff just off the dome just freestyling you
know and
And sometimes that works good with melodies i do that a lot i'll go in there
and just hum flows and
Try different things like that and melodies but it's really just
A combination it's never just like you know
Always like writing off the dome like some ballots i write completely off the
dome you know
I don't need kind of paper for a ballot but like if it's like that term off the
dome
Yeah, that's a great term i'm gonna use that from now on whenever there's a
joke that i have that's not written down anywhere
It's gonna be off the dome yeah, that was and i feel like that it
Kind of like you know gets people to understand that this is some you know this
this the spontaneousness of it, you know
Um is that some a term that rappers use all the time or is that your term off
the dome is that yours?
Oh, okay let's say it's yours i like to say it's yours okay i know the guy came
up with that
Off the dome it's a very popular phrase amongst the youngsters now but it all
came out of kid i'll take it
Take it i'll start spreading that rumor so you're you're essentially