Name: Joe Rogan Experience #619 - Bryan Callen & Brendan Schaub
Uploaded: 2015-03-04T07:19:37.000Z
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #619 - Bryan Callen & Brendan Schaub' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2015-03-04. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #619 - Bryan Callen & Brendan Schaub

Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Are we live? Boom. Beautiful.
We don't need no fucking stinking music.
We don't need it, man.
We got us. We got us.
Yeah.
We were just discussing referees letting guys get choked unconscious.
Someone needs to educate that dude from this previous weekend.
Yeah, I think some guys have never been choked out.
I think that's one thing.
Even if you don't have a martial arts background, you can be a referee.
You're aware of that, right?
You can be.
Yes, you can be a referee.
All you have to do is understand what's going on.
You take, like, referee classes and you learn.
You can start out taking referee classes as a complete, total novice.
I think you should have, I think as a ref,
you should have at least been choked out once and been knocked out once.
I mean, Herb Dean had a pro fight, I think, once.
Oh, he had several pro fights.
Yeah, he had a couple.
Yeah, and Herb Dean rolls all the time.
Herb Dean's a real martial artist.
So has Mario.
Yamasaki's a black belt.
So has John McCarthy.
He's a black belt in jiu-jitsu.
All those guys that we think.
So is Josh, who's in jail right now.
Josh is out.
He's out.
Pretty sure he's out.
Yeah, he is.
Josh has a very high-level brown belt.
Even if you're a one-stripe white belt, you know what the hell's going on.
A little bit.
What are you doing?
Especially on a rear naked choke.
Yeah.
It's not like it was a darts or something kind of hidden you can't see.
Well, he was face up, too.
It was a rear naked face up.
So it wasn't like, you know, like sometimes guys get choked out and the guy's
on top of them and they have their back and they got them belly down and you
can't see the guy's face.
But when the guy's face up and you're looking at his eyes behind his head.
What are you doing?
Yeah.
He cues out for a couple seconds.
You know, sometimes people just don't make good decisions.
You know, they just, they err.
It's not that they're bad people.
It's just that it doesn't work.
And in that case, look, if I fuck up, it's not good because a bunch of people
are listening.
They want the show to be smooth and entertaining.
But if I fuck up, it's not that big a deal.
No one's getting hurt.
Right.
If this guy fucks up, someone's going to get choked to sleep, you know, that
wouldn't get choked to sleep or someone's going to get beaten a few extra times.
Which can make a huge difference.
The beatings for sure.
Well, good thing it was in a joint manipulation submission because then you're
talking about someone's arm being broken instead of just getting choked out.
Well, in that situation, though, don't you let the guy fight out of it?
Like, I let a guy fight out of a full arm bar because the way I would feel is
that if his arm pops, that's on him.
And guys have gotten their arms popped and won fights for it.
Jon Jones got his fucking arm popped against Vitor.
True.
Did he really?
Yes, he did.
Fuck yeah, he did.
That was indeed.
He got his arm completely hyperextended.
Yeah, by then Vitor's whole body.
Dude, it was bad.
There's probably a, well, if we play the video, they'll probably do, there
might be a picture of it.
You can find an image of it.
But at full extension, it was completely hyperextended the other way.
And Jon's elbow was fucked up for a long time after that because I remember he
had to coach the ultimate fighter.
And, like, that's one of the things they said, like, well, it's good anyway
because he can't really train right now because his elbow's fucked up from the
Vitor fight.
So he, well, he went and tapped.
That's probably the closest he's been to losing, huh?
Pretty, yeah.
Besides the decision with Alexander.
Yeah, that was the closest.
But that's definitely the closest.
Most trouble he's been in.
For sure.
For sure.
That was a bad, bad, bad, bad spot.
Vitor's a nasty dude.
You know, a lot of people are taking him for granted versus Weidman because the
whole TRT thing, I don't fucking buy it, man.
I don't buy it for a second.
He looks good in his pictures.
He looks way better than he used to.
Yeah.
Like, there was a period after he got off TRT where he deflated.
When we saw him at those Weidman's, he looked like a straight welterweight.
Yeah, but he looks a lot thicker now.
Yeah, he looks way better.
So I know he's been doing a lot of, they say that the way you have to jumpstart
your system, one of the big ways, you do a lot of compound exercises, like
cleans and presses.
Because it forces your body to produce testosterone and estrogen.
Definitely testosterone, yeah.
Yeah, big, big things.
Like, he was doing Zurcher squats, which is where, you know, you like, it's
almost like you do, you put your hands together and make your arms like you're
curling.
You put the bar, you hang it from your arms and you do your squats like that.
They're tough, man, on your core.
Yes.
Very hard.
Yeah, I do them too.
So he's doing all that kind of crazy shit.
I don't.
So, you know, I'm hoping this is how it, this is one example of it here.
But this gives you an idea how strong Jones is.
He's just so weird strong.
He's ridiculously strong.
Right.
But Vitor caught it at a perfect spot.
You know, he might have, he might have been able to win the fight if he didn't
let up on it.
But I think he let up on it when it popped.
Look at that.
It was close.
It was crazy.
He said he let up on it, and I believe him.
And then he got submitted.
It's kind of instinctive.
Yep.
He got Kimura'd.
John Kimura'd him.
I mean, after his arm got all fucked up.
So his right arm's all blown out.
And he still uses it to Kimura him later on in the fight.
So crazy.
And then he's fucked up for a while after that fight.
That was one of the reasons why he coached the ultimate fighter.
Right there.
Well, Chael said he just wasn't training.
Like, he'd walk by him.
Chael would be training twice a day, all full of sweat.
And John would walk by crisp, clean, just nice and showered.
He's like, when is he training?
Maybe he wasn't.
He wasn't.
He wasn't.
Yeah, Chael said that's when he realized that he's just not as good as John.
He said he got in there.
Yeah, he said 30 seconds in.
He goes, I wanted to get out of that ring so fast.
He goes, I just couldn't believe how strong he was.
Yeah, John Jones is no goddamn joke.
Now, think about him.
And then think about what Anthony Rumble Johnson versus him is going to be like.
Like, that's going to be the most chaotic goddamn fight.
Insane.
That's my number one fight all time.
Really?
All time?
Yep.
Dang.
Yep.
That really escalated.
You think, why?
Because he's got such knockout power and if John makes a mistake?
Uh-huh.
And because I've been thinking about it.
I've been thinking about all the great matchups.
Like, there's been some great matchups, you know, for sure.
Like, um, like, uh, BJ Penn versus George St. Pierre when it first happened.
Goddamn, that was a big buildup.
Big matchup.
Chuck Liddell versus Tito.
Chuck Liddell versus Tito.
But those, I had a pretty good sense of what was going to happen.
I had a pretty good sense that GSP was too big.
I think GSP was too big.
He was too hot.
His wrestling was too good.
And I knew that BJ just didn't.
That was before the Marinoviches.
He didn't have that work ethic that he had.
For a very short period of time when BJ was in just insane shape.
Like, the Sean Shirk fight, he was in insane shape.
That was actually before that.
But he was in insane shape for that fight.
The Diego Sanchez fight.
He was a destroyer.
Kenny Floyd, yeah.
Who else?
There was a couple other fights that he had when he was in, like, the best
shape ever as a lightweight.
You know, but when he fought George, I was like, George is just too big.
This is just not the right fight.
So this is, for you, this is the biggest fight ever.
To me, this is the one where I don't know what the fuck.
First of all, I think John is the greatest light heavyweight champ of all time.
Ever.
Yes, I agree.
And I think he's also still growing and getting better.
That's what's scary.
Spectacular talent.
Because he just moved his entire camp to Albuquerque.
Because he used to live in New York.
Now he bought a place in Albuquerque, and he's training full time now.
He was just going to Albuquerque for camps.
Huh?
Think how crazy that's going to be.
Yeah, it's incredible.
The question becomes, after he beats Anthony Rumble Johnson.
Kane.
That's where he's got to go, right?
The question is if.
It's not after.
Because I don't know what the fuck is going to happen when Anthony Rumble
Johnson puts mitts on you.
I don't know who's going to be able to withstand that.
See, the problem is, John is so much longer, and the reach is a factor.
So, listen, I thought Glover was going to be an issue for him boxing.
Offered nothing.
Because of that length, it's tough to deal with, man.
Glover is very good.
I said Glover is like at a possible stand-up challengers.
When I was looking at him coming in against John, I was like, he's got really
heavy hands.
Especially at the time.
Especially at the time.
Well, he took a step back.
He's not training with – he wasn't training with Hackleman for this last
fight.
He did it all in Connecticut.
Yeah, in his own camp.
Yeah, he had his own camp that he did down there.
A lot of people thought maybe he wasn't prepared as well.
When he fought John, though, there was a ton of hype.
And the UFC pitched him like, this is the guy.
Chuck Liddell signed off on it.
Dana White.
You know, everyone thought he was the guy.
Well, I felt like it.
I felt like it.
I mean, I feel like guys are as good as they are in their best performances,
right?
So, like, if you look at him, like his best performance, like he gets clipped
by Ryan Bader and seconds later he puts Bader away.
Yeah.
You know, you look at the way he beat up Kyle Kingsbury.
That was a scary goddamn fight.
Kyle Kingsbury fight was scary.
He just came out and he shows you what the fuck he could do.
True.
Whoa.
You're like, whoa.
And you know that Kyle Kingsbury, who's a very good athlete and a really cool
guy, wasn't at the best of the best.
He wasn't at that level, right?
You know, he was dominated by, um, uh, Pat Cummins.
Pat Cummins.
Beat the brakes on him.
Recently.
Recently.
Yeah.
Right.
So, you know, there's levels.
And then, you know, Rumble Johnson has bad times at 170, but you've got to
think that a lot of that had to do with him starving himself.
And when you're looking at him as a light heavyweight, you know, the way he
fucking destroyed Nogueira, I was just like, Jesus.
And then taking out Gustafson like that in the first round.
Well, that, but although I wonder because he did headbutt Gustafson and Gustafson
fell to his knees.
It makes you wonder at that point because I, I mean, Gustafson is still a
killer and I don't, I don't know.
We just didn't get a chance to really see it.
Definitely a factor.
But should be a factor for both men, right?
I mean, they're hitting each other with their heads.
But I feel like every time John has a new opponent, it's like, oh, this is it.
This is the one.
Look at DC.
I thought, I legitimately thought DC was probably going to beat him in a
decision.
Three to two.
That's, I thought he had the perfect setup, the perfect pedigree to beat John
Jones.
And then, I mean, John destroyed him, took him down.
He picked him up by the hips.
It really wasn't that close of a fight.
So then now it's like, oh, here's Anthony Johnson.
And I love Anthony.
He's a monster.
But I feel like we go through this every time.
Well, we do.
Until he fights Kane, I think once he does, and that's going to happen, I bet,
when he
fights Kane, now we're talking.
Well, I think Kane has to stay healthy.
You know, I mean, that's one of the.
I think he beats Kane.
Wow.
Really?
He might.
I do.
You never know, man.
Look, he might very well beat Johnson.
It might be very well one of those things you look back on it in hindsight.
And you say, well, you know, maybe I should have, you know, figured that this
could have happened
or that John would have an 