Name: Joe Rogan Experience #634 - Abby Martin
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #634 - Abby Martin' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2015-04-16. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #634 - Abby Martin

We are live Abby Martin. How do you feel about that? I feel great. You've done
that live shit before. Hell yeah. Hell yeah
You're free the Russians free Abby Martin formerly of Russia today
The lone standing voice you were like the person everybody would say Russia
today who the fuck's gonna watch that?
Well, that chick seems to be speaking her mind. Yeah. Hmm
Gave gave a lot of credibility to the network when you have dissent against the
funder
I mean yeah, that's a weird place to be though
Huh, like that whole crimea thing when you were protesting when you were
talking and speaking
I guess in editorial fashion on your show about what was going on with the
Russian invasion of
Ukraine the crimea situation they were like well, you should go there yourself
and see it and you were like fuck
That was that when you were starting to think like man, maybe I should not be
here
Well, well the problem was waking up to a press release saying that I was
already going to be shipped there
Without asking me so that was shipped shipped
So I just said no
I'm not gonna I just didn't want it to be a vetted press
Experience for me, you know
I wanted to make my own contacts on the ground and Kiev plus it was like a war
zone at the time
I mean, maybe not Crimea, but Ukraine
Yeah, even though it's part of it
Yeah, so I wanted to get training and also make my own contacts instead of just
going with like
Vetted Russians and just like going around Russians there and being like look
everything's great. They're all happy like we vetted everyone already
So here's your experience. It has to be a weird gig working for Russia like the
Russian sponsored news
Network in America living in Washington DC like what a block from the White
House
Yeah
It's great. You're in the belly of the beast and you're also working for the
quote enemy, right? It's amazing
Whenever I'd meet guys at bars and they'd be like what do you do? I'm like I
work for Putin's propaganda machine
I just like shut it down
Just make everyone really uncomfortable. Yeah, they'd be like, I don't want to
text this chick
I'll get on a list. You know, I think they would put you on some sort of a list,
right?
I'm assuming that everybody who's friends with you is on some sort of a list
Well, I think I don't like to live in fear the NSA
But I think that obviously, you know when you have John Kerry out there all the
time fear-mongering about Russia today and bringing it up
saying that using Russia today as an example why
The US State Department propaganda apparatus needs tens of millions of dollars
more funding which is called the Broadcasting Board of Governors
So it's Radio Free Europe and Voice of America, and it's the it's what the US
does to put their propaganda out to the rest of the world
And so John Kerry's using Russia today as an example of how good Russia is at
putting
These counter talking points out there and using it to get more money
So, you know that they're paying attention and you know that they are really
bothered by it
But if they did anything like sanction the station or try to shut it down, it
would look really fucking bad
They can't go that far
So it's it just shows you that the world is really just these odd shades of
gray
It's not really black and white because obviously Putin is a dictator
I mean there can be no doubt at a certain point after a certain amount of
assassinations and certain amount of
Taking oligarchs money and throwing them into jail and all the crazy shit that
guy's done. He's essentially some sort of a new
dictator a new style of dictator and
Yet Russia today reported on some real shit
And gave you a lot of freedom to report on real shit, which is weird
You know, it's it's it gets everybody in this strange predicament like do I can
I pay attention to Russia today?
Do I do I trust it?
First of all Putin's not a dictator because he was elected but
But but but here's what's weird is that he created this new position
So you have Medvedev and then you have Putin basically
Reemerging right? It's like Bush coming back and just being like yo. Yeah, I'm
gonna fucking just create this position and just come back into government
so he did kind of
Create this caveat to come back in and have like a giant sphere of influence
still but I mean he does have a huge
But he has huge support there and I think in due part to this cold war
resurrection going on in the west so when you have
Russia being bombarded with attacks constantly it kind of reinforces that
homeland feel to the people in Russia and they're like
Fuck y'all you guys are just like constantly attacking us
So we're gonna kind of maintain this strength here and really be nationalistic
so it's almost like helping Putin what I don't understand about the whole thing
is that
We're not looking at communism. This is not the Cold War
So I don't understand what the US is getting out of it when you have like an oligarchy
and a uber capitalist nation
That's basically in line economically with the US
I mean it's run by oligarchs just like the US is we're not talking about like
communism versus capitalism anymore
So what are we getting out of it to kind of continue?
To like create this dueling narrative? Well, I think first of all people are
nervous about Putin. I mean he's he's a
When you look at him, you know, at least the image that's being betrayed
through the media
He's this very macho guy. You see him with his shirt off riding horses and shit
and you have
One guy who was the guy recently that said Putin could be worth as much as 200
billion dollars
When you look at all the money that he's stolen all the the different people's
money that he's taken all these oligarchs that he throws in jail and
Takes their companies they think that he could be worth as much as 200 billion
dollars
You know what people have said that about Hugo Chavez and Maduro too and they
take all of the nationalized
Like assets into account they just say that Maduro owns like billions of
dollars worth of wealth because of the nationalization of products
So I don't necessarily take that at face value and say that like Putin has you
know has amassed this giant wealth that he has
The problem with the propaganda wars is that you don't know what's fucking true,
right? Of course
I mean
Investor Putin could be the world's richest man with 200 billion stolen whose
hermitage capital management
I don't know bill prouder CEO of hermitage capital management
It's so so crazy scroll down Jane
You know
Wow
Yeah, what I love about about the propaganda war though is that you have all
these like establishment journalists who?
Will immediately say that Putin and and he very may well have killed that dude,
you know, I don't know
but to immediately come on the media and say that
Putin's politically assassinated all these people in the street right in front
of the Kremlin
But then you can never ever question any sort of political assassinations that
have taken place in this country
So it's like a way to just project all of these issues
When it comes to either false flag terrorism or political assassinations or
just suspicious deaths
Outwardly and then just say like well, that's fucking batshit if you ever apply
that to our political system here
Well, that would be sort of like
if
Rand Paul was assassinated
Mm-hmm if Rand Paul was running against Putin or against Obama and was it was
like second term and he was you know
Campaigning and running against Obama and then was murdered in the street
That would be what it would be more like
It's it's it's a lot more brutal and open than any of the political assassinations
That may or may not have taken place under the United States
Mm-hmm like what can you can you think of a similar
Political assassination that you could attribute to the United States like
maybe Vince Foster
Which allegedly yeah was an assassination?
I mean all of the you know, of course obviously other than the Kennedy's MLK
Which of course a court case found that that the government was complicit in
his assassination as well a Memphis Tennessee court
jury found that but yeah, I mean actually there was an embassy row bombing of
a fucking just car bomb exploded and killed some leader and it came back to
Some complicity within the US government and another government working
together so there has been shit like that happened, but yeah
I mean nothing just as overt of
You know that guy being just often for the crime was that that guy that guy was
a very vocal supporter and he thought that his
Fame would protect him that was that was what he thought mm-hmm that didn't
work
No, no, I don't know what the fuck is going on there, man
It's so it's so you know, it's hard it's and this is when people would give me
shit all the time
Why aren't you talking about Russia every day and it's like look?
It's extremely hard to talk about any country that you don't understand fully
I've never been there and also you're looking at a country that you know
The Soviet Union collapsed not that long ago and they're figuring shit out
And so it's kind of it's kind of like our moral imposition on the Middle East
and being like you guys are so barbaric
And why haven't you why haven't you evolved like to where we are and it's like
well, first of all
There's so many different factors playing into that on a completely different
political evolution
So it's just like just hold hold your fucking like judgment for a second and
try to understand how these countries are the way they are
Of course, you can you know
You can call it like criminal activity in other countries
But it just seems like people have a lot of shit to say
Without really understanding all of these different dynamics that go into
global affairs
Yeah, I don't understand Russia at all
It's it's a fascinating place though. It's interesting to think that when we
were kids when I was kid
We were always worried about going to war with Russia. That was the big fear
that was hanging over everyone's head. It was
Like people really would go to sleep at night terrified of potential nuclear
war and we we always thought we were one incident away and
then for a long time it went away, you know when the Soviet Union collapsed and
Russia became this new sort of much more peaceful place
It was it seemed like there was never gonna happen again and now it's all ramping
up again
And now like they just sold missiles to Russia or to Iran rather it was in the
news in the last couple weeks
They lifted their embargo of selling
What scares me is there are two proxy wars going on right now between the US
and Russia
Ukraine and Syria. I mean that is happening that is real and now
You know, we have Ukraine obviously the US is openly endorsing and funding the
Ukrainian government with lethal aid and then you have Russia
Arming these rebels there. So basically the US and Russia are fighting a war in
Ukraine
And then you have the Assad factor where Russia is funding Assad and then you
have the US openly funding these fucking jihadist
Islamic terrorists essentially on the ground in Syria that scares me because
the war is already happening. It's just through different mediums
Jesus I know
So you were working for Russia today. First of all, how'd you get that gig? How
does one get a gig and
Like working for Russia today and was there any hesitation on your part?
So I I came from anti-war activism and long story short realized that media was
really the platform that we need to be fighting because I saw
Both parties selling the Iraq war and I was like what the fuck is going on?
So then going back to Oakland and the police state just showed up in my
backyard once Occupy Oakland happened
There was like seven police helicopters flying around the city at all times
There was tens of thousands that felt like stormtroopers to respond to like 80
hippies camping out in a park
So I was like this is fucking crazy and then Russia today was the only like
legitimate news organization covering the Occupy movement
So during that time th