Name: Joe Rogan Experience #637 - Remi Warren
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #637 - Remi Warren' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2015-04-23. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #637 - Remi Warren

Okay, we're live. Remy Warren. How are you, fella?
Pretty good. How's it going?
What's going on?
I watched the show last night.
Oh, did you? Good.
Yeah, and I watched it again today. The show's called Apex Predator. It's on
Thursday nights on the Sportsman's Channel.
Yep, 8 p.m.
And this is a show that last time you came in with Dan Doty, we kind of talked
about it off the record, right?
We couldn't talk about it yet.
Yeah, it was kind of like in the wind there. It was not, we didn't have a
network for it yet.
We filmed, like, the pilot episode, and now it's a real deal now.
Yeah, now it's actually on television.
Yeah, it's a real show.
It's cool when stuff like that happens, right?
Yeah, it is.
You plan it out, you work, and it actually comes together, and you have a real
television show.
Yeah, it's pretty exciting. So I've been pretty pumped about it because this is
something that I've been thinking about for years.
And then, you know, we came in, what was it?
It's quite a while ago.
Over a year ago.
Something like that, yeah.
And now it's finally come to fruition, and people can look at what I've been
talking about for the last couple of years.
It takes a long time to make something fucking happen, man.
It's this hurry up and wait game.
Yeah.
My buddy was in the Army, and he's like, yeah, war is just hurry up and wait.
And I was like, that's television.
War is hurry up and wait.
Wow, that's a jaded individual.
Come on, can we just get to killing folks?
The show is, what you're doing on the show is you're essentially emulating a
lot of tactics that various predators use.
And you're using these tactics to get close and figure out how to hunt animals.
The one I saw last night was the buffalo one.
Oh, sweet.
Where you put a coyote outfit on, and we're crawling up to these buffalo.
And it's kind of fascinating that they don't run necessarily from coyotes or
wolves that just sort of walk towards them.
The only time the coyotes or the wolves would actually attack them is if they
were running, that that's when they would move in on them.
Yeah, exactly, because the way wolves hunt is they have to get the animals
running first.
And tomorrow night's episode, we really see that when we look at the way wolves
hunt.
But the reason that the wolf has to get the buffalo running is the wolf's
essentially outclassed by the bison.
It's so much larger.
So if the bison's to say, we're going to stand here and fight, then it can kill
the wolf.
And it's the cost-benefit analysis for the wolf to attack that bison while it's
standing there isn't great enough.
So the wolves will actually get around the bison and try to instigate them to
run.
Because if the bison makes the mistake of running, then they can hunt as a pack.
They can wear it down once they get it moving.
And then they attack from the back, and they're safer, and they're more
successful.
So the bison know this.
So if they run, well, they're going to be in trouble.
But when a human hunter comes along using primitive weapons or whatever, the
human hunter needs that animal to stand still in order to kill it.
So when the bison sees a human, it runs because that's how it stays safe.
So, you know, the point of this show is really dissecting the way nature does
things.
And you look at, like, every animal is so specialized.
It does something really well.
And everything falls into a certain niche.
And as a human looking at nature, we look at it and go, man, what can we learn?
Like, humans are an amazing species.
And what I've come to realize is we've adapted a lot of the techniques and
tactics that a certain animal specializes in or does really well.
And used it for ourselves to become this essential top predator.
So, you know, looking at this, the Plains Indians, we looked at a George Catlin
painting.
It's a pretty famous painting.
There's two Plains Indians.
Yeah, let's see if we can get that painting, Jamie.
It's a really famous painting.
It's really cool.
Describe it.
Yeah, there's two Plains Indians sneaking up on a herd of bison underneath
these white wolf skins.
And I'd seen that, you know, I've always thought that was an awesome picture.
How do you spell his name?
George Catlin.
C-A-I-T-L-I-N.
And, yeah, so, you know, he paints this picture of what supposedly what he saw,
but you never really know these artist types.
This is from the 1800s.
Yeah, I mean, this is a pretty old photo or painting.
So it was kind of a gamble whether or not this guy was a bullshit artist.
Yeah, he was kind of going out west and painting what he saw or what he
interpreted to see.
And so I've always thought, oh, I wonder if that's really true.
But when you dissect it, obviously those Plains Indians sitting around saw that,
oh, when those wolves are there, those bison aren't running.
Well, let's throw some of those skins on our back and see what happens.
And it is attacking, like, through the show we find out that it's attacking the
top left corner there.
Yeah, there it is.
Yeah.
Yeah, let's pull that sucker up.
Wow, that's crazy that they really did that.
Yeah.
They must have.
Yeah, I mean, it makes perfect sense if you're sitting there and see the
correlation between the wolves and the bison.
And you come to this illogical conclusion that if we act like a wolf, the bison
will stay there.
What kind of bison there were back then, too?
Oh, millions.
God.
And that's, on that episode, Steve, you know, he's the bison expert.
Yeah.
And just how many bison were there?
He was telling me that they used to find the bison by giant clouds from their
breath.
It'd make, like, huge clouds.
What?
That's what Steve was telling me.
Wow.
I mean, millions, millions of bison.
Well, you know, there's a guy named Dan Flores that's a good friend of Steve's
as well.
And he is a real bison expert.
And he's written a very controversial paper on what happened to the bison.
And what he's saying is that he compares, he's going to be on the podcast soon,
as soon as he's done with his book, hopefully by sometime in the summer.
And what his paper is basically saying is that they were, the Plains Indians,
once they had figured out how to ride horses and shoot from horses, were
already on the way to wiping out the buffalo.
Really?
And the reason why the buffalo were in such high numbers was because that so
many people, so many Native Americans had died from smallpox.
And if you go back before the smallpox epidemic, the people that arrived in
North America, like the Dutch, when they had made an accounting of all the
different animals, they'd talked about turkeys and deer and elk and bear.
No mention whatsoever of buffalo.
And they were visiting all these same areas that 200 years later had millions
of buffalo.
But during that 200 years, 90% of the Native Americans had been wiped out by
smallpox.
Really?
And during that, and they were apparently, like, probably the number one
predator of these bison.
I'm probably doing a really shitty job of explaining this.
That makes sense.
I mean, they would do things like the buffalo jumps, where it just drive herds
of bison.
Off a cliff.
Off a cliff.
And apparently the wolves would feed, because there would just be dead, I mean,
you couldn't take all that meat.
It doesn't mean, if you've got a small village, you're taking what you can use,
there would be dead bison everywhere.
And the wolves would come in and gorge on them.
I guess there was an account where there was wolves so full on food, they were
usually just laying there in excess, just gorged.
And they were just hanging around next to the Native Americans?
Well, where the buffalo jumped off the cliffs.
Yeah, but the Native Americans were down there, too, with the wolves?
No, I think, I don't know if they would move on.
At a certain point, the meat's going to go bad.
And then the wolves would just keep eating.
And the wolves would just keep eating and eating and eating.
Fuck.
Because apparently, a wolf's can, they can gorge, like, hungry like a wolf,
that's really hungry.
Duran Duran was on to something.
Yeah, because they'll eat, I read something, it was like 25 pounds in a sitting,
and they can process that meat in two hours.
So they'll just eat.
And eat.
And eat.
25 pounds of meat processing.
Imagine if you ate a 25-pound turkey.
Like, you went to the supermarket and picked up a 25-pound turkey, and you ate
it yourself.
And there's never been a wolf bigger than a human being, right?
The biggest wolf ever is probably, like, 200 pounds, right?
Ever.
Yeah.
So we're talking about, you know, 150-pound wolf, which is the size of a normal
man, can eat 25 fucking pounds and go through it in two hours.
That's insane.
That's crazy.
That's insane.
It's competitive eating at its finest.
Well, their bite power is also freaky.
I didn't know, Ricky Gervais told me, and I was like, this guy's got to be
wrong.
He said that a wolf has a bite that's five times more powerful than a pit bull.
I'm like, how could that be true?
Oh, yeah?
It's true.
I can't fucking believe it, but it's true.
Really?
Yeah.
I mean, they're not that, you look at, like, pit bulls have all these muscles
in their heads, and they're known for their bite.
Nothing compared to a wolf.
A wolf can go right through an elk shin bone.
It's crazy.
Fuck.
Yeah, that's one of the inspirations.
Wolves were actually the inspiration for me to even think of this show.
I'm pretty fascinated by wolves, but one day I was out hunting elk in Montana,
and I'd been hunting this one bull, and it was the first time I ever saw a wolf
in the wild.
And I was really close, too.
I was like, oh, this is awesome, because this is before you really saw a lot of
wolves.
And then I actually got a little video of it, and then I go and do my hunt, and
then the wolf happened to be hunting the same group of elk.
Was it a lone wolf?
Yeah, it was by itself.
And I was actually telling, I did Steve's podcast with Steve Rinello the other
day, and I was telling him this same story.
And I've seen four times I've seen wolves take down an elk in the wild.
They've all been by themselves.
Wow.
I've never seen a pack attack elk.
I've only seen lone wolves kill.
That has got to be amazing to watch that go down.
It's so, it's cool.
I mean.
Wow.
They're so fast.
You see, like, the, you see the elk running, and it's almost like the wolf is
just, it can, like, it could almost run between its legs back.
It's going back and forth.
The elk is beelining, and that wolf is back and forthing.
Just much faster.
Much faster, yeah.
So how do they take it out?
They bite its back legs?
Yep.
Grab hamstring, bite its back leg.
Anywhere it can sink its teeth in, but mostly go for the back end.
Do they try to take it down all in one shot, or do they try to wound it and
then eventually get it?
I think it's whatever they can grab, and half the time it ends up wounding it.
When I've seen them be the most successful is they run the elk into deadfall,
because the wolf can go under and over the logs, up and down, back and forth,
and the elk struggles.
It uses all its energy.
It kind of gets trapped.
Oh, wow.
So the wolves kind of funnel them into areas where they know they'll be more
successful.
Seems like it.
Seems like I've always seen them catch them on the downhill, like run them down
a canyon in the bottom of a canyon.
Seems to be where, I'm trying to think about it, yeah.
It's like in the bottom of a canyon where there's lots of logs and things down.
That's got to be an amazing thing to see happen live, because it's so rare to
be able to be there.
I mean, you might see a wolf, you might see an elk, but to see a wolf kill an
elk, like to be at that moment where it didn't matter if you were there or not,
that was going to go down.
I mean, that's nature.
Exactly.
I was blood trailing my friend's wife.
She shot a nice bull with her bow last year, and we're sitting there trying to
find this elk, and here comes this cow elk running with a wolf hot on its tail.
And I was like, sweet, we're going to watch it go down.
And my