Name: Joe Rogan Experience #645 - Joe Schilling
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #645 - Joe Schilling' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2015-05-08. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #645 - Joe Schilling

All right, ladies and gentlemen, tomorrow live on Spike TV is Glory World
Series with me, my man, Joe Schilling, last minute edition.
I want to talk to you about some shit, dude.
Let's start.
Because I was working out in my gym yesterday, dying, okay?
All I'm doing is hitting pads.
No one's hitting me back.
I'm fucking exhausted.
And what I like to do when I'm working out is I like to put fights on for
motivation.
And I'm watching you, and you're fighting in the last man standing tournament.
You've got to fight three times this night.
You're fighting.
You're going four fucking rounds.
Exhausting, ridiculous fight.
And then I remember this shit.
Oh, shit.
Oops.
We just dropped Elvis.
Elvis has left the building.
Yeah.
I remember this shit.
Ryan Loco took that.
Ryan Loco sent me this picture.
What the fuck, dude?
How are you able to have that kind of cardio?
I mean, you fought three times that night.
Four rounds is your first fight before you won by knockout.
And you're smoking cigarettes.
Yeah.
How's that possible?
Oh, Joe.
I didn't want to talk about this last time.
First five minutes of the show, here we go.
But it's just, I couldn't believe it.
I really have a hard time believing it.
I was watching the fights.
I was like, how the fuck does this guy have this kind of energy?
Well, to be honest, I was exhausted in the third round.
When I went back to my corner, I looked at my coach and I'm like, you know, he's
like,
I think you're going to have to go another round.
I'm like, fuck.
I did not want to go another round.
I was exhausted.
You know, I just wanted to win.
And that was kind of what I did.
Well, it was just a ridiculous fight, too.
Yeah.
I mean, it was, the whole tournament was ridiculous.
It's crazy to make someone fight three times in a night.
But that first fight was just so fucking back and forth and wild and crazy.
And for you to go that hard while you smoke cigarettes.
Yeah, I don't, like I said, I can't justify it.
I'm really, I'm about ready to quit.
My last fight, my cardio was, you know, I've done kickboxing for so long where,
you know,
I get tired like anybody else.
But for whatever reason, it's never really bothered me that much.
And in the last fight, he was holding me a lot.
And just the cardio system is completely different.
And it's, yeah, it's coming to an end.
I'm getting really sick of smoking.
I'm getting really sick of explaining.
Having this conversation, Joe.
Joe's the reason.
When I quit, this will be the reason.
Well, good.
Well, I wanted to talk to you about these stupid vaporizing things.
But Simon Marcus, the guy you're fighting, is a tough motherfucker.
You guys going back and forth three rounds.
And then you go in the fourth round.
And you still manage to knock him out in the fourth round.
That was a crazy fight.
And to know that you're doing all this, giving yourself, I mean,
what kind of a cardio deficit do you think cigarettes gives you?
Is it 5% maybe?
I really don't know.
I've been smoking since I was, since before I started doing kickboxing.
So it was something that was just, you know, my cardio always sucks at the
beginning of the camp.
And by the end of the camp, I'm outrunning everybody else.
And I'm sure it's a deficit.
You would have amazing cardio if you didn't smoke.
I mean, think of that.
Unless, you know what I used to think when I was young?
I was really retarded.
I would think that maybe smoking cigarettes is like weightlifting for your
lungs.
Like, it makes your lungs work harder.
Because, like, if you smoke, if you work out really hard and you smoke,
like, maybe your lungs have to, like, work extra hard to deal with that smoke
and they get stronger.
I quit for one fight when, uh, it was my last amateur fight.
And, uh, my coach, you know, was against it, obviously.
He was against you quitting?
Oh, against me smoking.
Oh.
You know, so, uh, he's like, come on, man.
I wish.
Don't be a pussy.
Have a beer.
Exactly.
So, uh, yeah, I quit for three months.
I trained really, really hard.
And, uh, for whatever reason, I was exhausted in the fight.
And after the second round, they're like, you know, seconds out.
And I'm like, look at my coach.
I'm like, I can't stand up.
My legs were, like, locked up.
And he had to, like, lift me off the stool.
And, uh, I got robbed in the, I lost that fight.
But it was, you know, everybody said I won the fight, but whatever.
But, uh, that was, my coach after the fight was like, you know what?
You quit.
You did everything I asked you to, you know, do whatever you want to do after
that.
Wow.
Yeah.
I wonder if your body was suffering nicotine withdrawal.
I don't know.
Or if I was overconfident and my cardio was going to be so much better that I
wasn't pacing or something.
Oh, that could be right.
Yeah.
That's a big issue, right?
That a lot of people that watch fights really have no idea.
The energy management that's going on.
Like, there's a whole bunch of management going on during a fight.
And energy management is, like, a big issue.
Knowing when to blow it out.
And that's why I see, like, a lot of guys.
Chael Sun on the podcast said it best.
He said, if you try to win by knockout but don't win by knockout, you often
lose the decision.
Yeah.
You just don't have the gas to keep going.
Right.
That's pretty true.
Is that an experience thing, you think?
Like, when you're managing your energy like that in the ring?
I think so.
I think it also has a lot to do with, like, hiding how tired you are.
You know what I mean?
And, like, that example, for example, that fight with Simon Marcus you were
talking about.
I usually, the way I hide it, and all the secrets can be out there, but, like,
I'll do, like, a little walk-off.
And if you notice, like, the ref broke us.
John McCarthy broke us.
And, like, I turned my back and I was walking away.
And I was, like, catching my breath.
And then he, like, you know, he stalks me.
And as he's coming, I'm waiting for that one big shot, you know?
So it's like you're exhausted, you pace yourself for a second to give that next
explosion, to give you that next explosion.
You know, it's just experience.
I've always been tired in every fight I've ever had, so I'm at that level, you
know?
But, like, my last fight with Bellator, you know, I was just a different level
of exhausted from the wrestling and the jiu-jitsu that I haven't been doing for
15 years of my life.
And, you know, I'm at a point now in my career where it's like I've worked my
ass off for so long that, like, kickboxing comes natural to me, you know?
And with MMA, it's like if I want to, you know, yeah, I have half of the game
down, but if I want to really take this to the next level, I have to improve on
the ground and in the wrestling.
And that's going to take me improving my cardio, I think, you know?
Are you committed totally to fighting in both MMA and kickboxing, or do you go
back and forth on this, or?
You know, I love kickboxing and I want to do it forever.
And if the opportunity stays there for me to do both, then yes.
But I definitely have to step my game up in MMA if, you know, I really hate my
record.
This last fight fucking drives me nuts.
The last fight was a close one up until it got to the ground.
It just seemed like you were having a real hard time getting up.
It's like there's such a giant issue when it comes to the difference between
the kind of endurance that you have with grappling and, you know,
and your ability to calculate all the different moves and all the different,
like, it takes so long to get grappling information in your body.
And in your head, there's just so much stuff that's going on when guys are
holding you down.
So, like, there's a few guys that get the takedown defense game down, like Cro
Cop did in Pride, and then start to become really successful.
But once they actually get taken down and actually get held down on the ground,
like, it just saps you of your energy, man.
And it takes away.
I was watching.
I was like, I wonder how frustrating this is for him because you're used to
fighting your style of fight.
Your style of fight is kickboxing.
Right.
You know, and then all of a sudden you got this guy on top of you, and you can't
get up, and, you know, he's holding you down.
And nothing really was happening on the ground.
Like, there wasn't a lot of ground and pound.
It wasn't, like, real significant submission attempts.
But it's just keeping you from doing the shit you want to do.
Right.
Yeah, it was incredibly frustrating.
Incredibly frustrating.
Do you think about just not doing it anymore?
Uh, not really because, you know, it's just not who I am.
When things are frustrating and hard, I don't quit.
You know, I just step it up to the next level, usually, which is, you know,
something I like about myself.
So I don't want to change that.
No, that's a good quality, for sure.
It's just, you know, it's frustrating.
And then, you know, I obviously have things that I need to work on, and I, you
know, I had stuff in the camp.
You know, I was really sick during the camp, and it's, you can continue to kickbox
when you're really sick, you know, to an extent.
But, like, you can't do jiu-jitsu and be, like, drooling and slobbering and
fucking sweating in some guy's face when you have the flu, you know?
So, like, for that camp, I only had, like, three weeks of jiu-jitsu, and then I
was sick for three weeks.
I had a fucking bronchitis and lung infection and this nasty shit, which
probably fucking smoking wasn't, you know?
Were you smoking while you had the bronchitis?
I was just smoking all the time.
What I wanted to ask you is about these stupid, these stupid vaporizer things
that people keep sending me.
These vape, you know, tobacco.
Yeah, I'm actually sponsored by Firebrand, and it's been good.
I think I'm going to start using that stuff to quit.
That's a way better thing for your lungs, right?
I mean, I think so.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
You know, I'm sure in 20 years they're going to say that was the reason that,
you know, Joe got brain cancer.
I just wonder how, I mean, I know that being a professional fighter takes a
tremendous amount of dedication and time.
And I wonder, like, when I see you in Glory and I see you also in Bellator, I'm
like, man, does this guy have the amount of time that it takes to compete at
the level that you compete at in kickboxing in both?
I mean, do you have the time to put in to jiu-jitsu and to wrestling defense
and stuff like that?
Yeah, it's been really tough, you know.
At the beginning of the year, I was really excited about it.
Oh, it's going to be a busy year, you know.
But it's really hard to have a fight and then immediately go right into another
training camp for a different style or, you know, for another sport.
And it's, you know, it's like my next fight's June 26th.
And it's like I just fought and I'm jumping right back in the camp.
Bellator or a kicker?
Bellator.
Oh, back in it again.
Yeah, which is nice because at least it's two in a row, you know.
Right.
Yeah, it should be good.
I'm leaving tomorrow to Florida.
I'll be an American top team for three weeks.
That's a good move.
I'm going to be sparring with Tiago Alves for his fight with Carlos Condit and
then, you know, working a lot with their wrestling team and with King Mo out
there.
That's very smart for him because, you know, Carlos and you have similar builds.
That's a very smart for him and that's great for you, too.
That's a great camp as far as, like, wrestling knowledge and grappling
knowledge.
Right.
Like you said, you know, I'm not the kind of person that, like, when I lose a
fight, I'm like, oh, I don't want to do this shit anymore.
I'll just go to where I'm good, you know.
Right.
What do I need to do different?
I need to get with a better team that's more focused on MMA and has better
wrestlers, you know, work this out.
I totally get that, but I would wonder how you could do both.
Like, that's what I would wonder.
I mean, I could totally get you saying, hey, you know what, right