Name: Joe Rogan Experience #677 - Josh Zepps
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #677 - Josh Zepps' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2015-08-04. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #677 - Josh Zepps

People that I'd be willing to do a podcast with fresh back from Brazil within
hours of landing on sacred American soil
But you're one of them Josh. Why thank you alive. It's a real pleasure to be
back. Thanks, buddy
Man, what so first of all? Well, let me say the last time I was here. I was
like out of it
I was I was white knuckling it just I was I was hungover. I was tired. It was
10:00 in the morning
I hadn't slept probably I'd been on like a late night flight from New York. I
was sick Joe
I didn't know you were sick you you performed admirably. Yeah, I tried. I tried
today today. I'm going to smash it
Well, I'll be doing a week one today. Yeah, good. I'll pick it up. Thank you.
We'll just switch switch roles
You can sit back and I'll ask you questions. Yeah, how are you feeling my own
expectations?
My own of my own self just maybe travel like long trips before every podcast
what what was Brazil about the UFC great Ronda Rousey fight
Excellent pretty crazy. Well time. Yeah, fantastic. It was
Watching her fight is like it's like watching some historical thing. It's like
I was saying like when
People tell their grandchildren. I was there when Muhammad Ali fought Sonny
Liston
You know I was there when Mike Tyson beat Trevor Burbick and won the heavyweight
title
That's what it feels like when you watch her fight like you're not just seeing
a fight
You're watching some crazy historic event. It's amazing. She's an she's of just
a freak
There's like a freak of all freaks beautiful woman. Who's just this insane
Furious combat athlete
It's nuts. You're the one who's just stepped off a 13-hour flight and is now
working all afternoon. So that's good, too
That's not as hard
Especially doing this. Yeah, that's true. We have we have pretty easy jobs just
sitting around talking to people all day
Yeah, we do we do but I really enjoy your show man. You have some excellent
interviews. Did you interview that Peter Singer guy?
Yeah, yeah, that's the animal liberal
Liberation guy he he founded the to be coined the term animal liberation and he
sort of invented that he's one of the world's most important
Bioethicists like I mean in terms of just thinking about the morality. He's
such a brilliant guy
It's like he's as if it's like an alien just came down to earth and said
alright
We're not gonna have any more preconceptions about what people think is right
and wrong. Mm-hmm
We're gonna start from basics and think okay
Why do we think about the morality of things the way that we do and how in what
ways is that wrong?
So like he ends up at these crazy conclusions and people like hate him for some
of them like saying it's not necessarily wrong
To say kill an infant a newborn infant
Well, how does he justify that? I think it's on the grounds that
What's wrong with killing something is a sort of combination of snuffing out
the life of a being that has the capability of?
Conceiving of itself as having a future, right? You're thwarting a person's
plans when you kill them
You're robbing them of all of the opportunities that they hoped that they were
going to have and you're presumably causing them pain
But if you could painlessly I mean if you don't if you think of life as being
an incremental thing that starts from
Conception and then gradually evolves up into
Adulthood and sort of self-awareness and consciousness
I mean does a two-day-old baby have that much more sentience and consciousness
and sense of itself than a
22-week-old baby in the womb does not a huge amount necessarily
I mean, I'm not saying I agree with it, but he's just a fascinating person to
talk to does he have children yeah, I think so hmm
That's interesting that he thinks that way if he has children because I could
see it if you're if you're trying to make some sort of a logic
Argument, you know that you could you could argue it like that, but as far as
like being a human being the difference being
Significant in that a child represents potential and a child represents to a
lot of people represents this insane bond of love that you have with the baby
I you know, I think just to clarify. I think he's only saying like in cases
where
You know the parents don't want it or something. I mean, he's not he's not
obviously if you kill someone else's baby
You're doing a terrible thing because you're depriving the parents of the kid,
right?
Oh, it was so they're saying like if they don't want their baby, it's not that
big a deal in a situation like abortion as if it was like an abortion
There's some people that are extreme animal rights folks that also believe that
there's something about if you did kill a person
At least you stop that person from killing all the animals
They're going to kill or be responsible for the death of in their entire life
Which is which gets real insane. That's kind of crazy. I don't think he'd agree
with that
Well, you want to know real crazy the lobster liberation movement. No, yes, no.
Yes, there's people that break into restaurants
Places that have seafood and keep lobsters and they release them take the
rubber bands off their atrophied claws and release them back into the ocean
Those lobsters aren't surviving in the ocean. They've had it too good for too
long
Sure, it might not be stimulating being in the lobster tank, but it sure is
safe
I don't know if the lobsters eat while they're in the tank. That's a good
question
I don't know how they must be fed, right? I don't I've never seen it of you.
Well, that wouldn't do it while you're eating them
But they always have the rubber bands on their claws
So they don't jack each other up while they're in that tank all piled on top of
each other
It is pretty like I I'm it is kind of sick
Like I have no problem with it because I do eat meat and so I can't really be a
hypocrite about it
But I think there's something just kind of oddly
Sadistic about sitting there at a table and just being like all right
I'm gonna have that that I'm gonna end that one's life right now and then I'm
just gonna eat him in front of his buddies
Yeah
Well, we have a weird thing about
We we have like a hierarchy of animals that we love mm-hmm, you know, and that's
one of the things we found out about Cecil
I want to get to I want to get to
We should definitely should get to it
But we don't have any problem with bugs even vegans will slap a mosquito and it's
biting them
Like we don't have a problem with that not only that when bugs are really
little like ants will kill it and then brush it off
Our pants and leave the body on the ground and there's just like a head on our
pants
And just some little limbs just got around the ground bug guts and then the the
ant will be on
I've had a friend do that on in my kitchen once he had an ant I was like
Oh fucking ant and he just brushed it on the ground
I go isn't that odd that I don't have a problem with you doing that
But isn't it odd that we do that we just brush bodies under our friends floors
and we don't care about it just this with it
so getting back to Peter Singer man
his whole philosophy of animal liberation is sort of that there is a
a hierarchy of consciousness and sentience that has to be taken into account he's
a he happens to be a vegan
But he doesn't think you know
I've spoken to him obviously he doesn't think that an oyster has the same right
to life as a lion does or as a chimpanzee does right?
so you factor in the capacity of the of the creature to be sentient and to feel
pain and to have a conception of itself and to
Feel love and fear and those sorts of things and however much it does
That's why human life is probably more important than any other animals life
Maybe whales or dolphins or I don't know some other
Animal that's equally smart as us
But so for him the bugs are less worthy and for anyone sensible the bugs are
less worthy, right?
But what's interesting when you say like we have these weird
conceptions of our own hierarchies of like cute animals and non cute animals or
animals that we give a shit about and animals that we don't
What's interesting is that that hierarchy doesn't match up with a Peter sing
with a logical ethical hierarchy
like why are we so willing to be so cruel to pigs?
Which are just as conscious and self-aware and capable of love and family and
pain as dogs if not more so if not more so
But we have these institutionalized concentrated animal feeding operations that
just torture I mean it's torture
I mean whatever that industry can do to lower the price of a pound of flesh by
a few pennies
It will do including not anisthitizing the pigs get grabbing little piglets by
the tail and just smashing their heads against a wall to kill them if they have
if they're
Non-viable anymore. I mean it's an absolute murder show. It's like an ongoing
holocaust of pigs
But then like little people will get arrested for I don't know Michael Vick or
something you're doing something bad for dogs
Mm-hmm. We just don't give a give a shit
So I what what Peter singer would say is yes
There's a hierarchy but let's at least be sensible about the hierarchy which
brings us to Cecil
Poor Cecil. Cecil's a 13 year old lion which I want everyone to understand that
if you're a male lion and you reach 13 years of age
You have killed a fuckload of baby lions. Sure. A hundred percent. How many gazelles
have you killed?
A lot of gazelles, but also there's a lot of in how do you say infanticide? Trusside?
Tusside?
Infanticide. Tusside. It's not trusside. No. I always want to make an R there
for somewhere
Well, there are some other types of like fratricide, which has an R in it.
Right. I think that's why. Yeah
Infanticide if that is the correct way of saying it. Are you doubting me, Joe?
No. You're doubting my verbal wisdom.
Hundred percent. But I think that is that's that's an important point to look
at. My friend Steve Rinella calls them charismatic megafauna
And he's like there's all these animals right that are charismatic megafauna
that we have
Anthropomorphized in movies like the Lion King and Yogi Bear and all these
movies and we have this
Idealized view of what they really are
But the reality of them is so alien to us because we're never in Africa in Zimbabwe
in the jungle with these lines
And if you were you would be absolutely fucking terrified of them and you
wouldn't think of them like I saw Jimmy Kimmel
Crying on TV. I was like whoa Jimmy. I want to show you some videos
I want to show you some videos of Cecil killing babies because apparently there's
a video of Cecil actually killing the actual same lion
Interesting. Allegedly it might not be him. It's hard to yeah, and it's also
condescending to the people who live there
Like I mean there are farmers there who were like well. Yeah, you're allowed to
be all teary about a lion
It eats up damn cows all the time like or like elephants are just stomping all
over our crops
So yeah, let's save them absolutely
But we should have a little bit more empathy for the human beings who were
there too. Yeah, well the human beings here's the other one the poachers
the lives of poachers, okay, now let's
You're not I I'm not defending this guy. I don't I'm not exactly sure what
happened
There's several different versions of what that guy did and some of them are
According to book they're they're they're they're fine and legal
That's not the only lion that's ever been killed like this with a collar on it
when the lions are off the preserved area
It's legal to kill them. That's right not saying you should kill them just
saying if they're not there
But here's the here's the thing but they lured him off. I think that's the
difference right here's what's legal to kill as much as you want
poachers
People they kill people there every day then when they have these hunting camps
when they go out looking for lions or more more often
It's lions are fairly rare
Most people when they go over there to hunt they want to hunt something to eat
with big antlers they could put on their wall
Yeah, like a Neeland or gazelle or