Name: Joe Rogan Experience #682 - Mark & Chris Bell
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #682 - Mark & Chris Bell' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2015-08-13. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #682 - Mark & Chris Bell

All right. We're live gentlemen. What's up? Hey now. Thanks for doing this.
Appreciate it. Thank you. Bigger, Stronger, Faster. It was a documentary that I
could not, there were so many people that were talking about it. You couldn't
avoid like having a conversation about it, especially like in the UFC because
so many fighters have been accused of taking performance enhancing drugs and
there's so many conversations about that. So I always wanted to talk to you
guys and I watched it again. I watched like the first half of it when it first
came out and I watched it all again this morning.
To check it out. Did it bore you the first time or why didn't you watch it all
the way through? I don't remember. I think I was on a plane and I think the
plane probably landed and I shut my laptop and I never picked it up again. It
was one of those things. Yeah. What'd you think of it? It's great. Great
documentary and interesting and honest. It was really hilarious when you're
going over the people that like what's the number one reason to go to the
hospital and then they like aspirin, fucking vitamin C and then below that was
steroids. And then steroids was way down I think.
The amount of deaths. It's like steroid deaths are like slightly above water,
drinking water.
Yeah, there's no real proof to link anything scientifically. You know, you can
have anecdotal evidence on a lot of things but nothing scientifically links
steroids to these deaths.
This is a real problem with some people. They don't want to hear that. And they
don't want to hear it because they don't. There's like a there's a narrative
that we're being taught in this country or that we're being told to embrace.
That narrative is steroids are for cheaters and cheaters losers and losers aren't
American. But as you highlighted in your movie, over and over and over again,
all these examples of different athletes that were caught with performance
enhancing drugs was the guy from the Tour de France, whether it was Carl Lewis.
The Carl Lewis thing was fucking hilarious.
Yeah, because a lot of people don't know when Ben Johnson got tested positive
for steroids, they stripped him of his metal. Carl Lewis tested positive for amphetamines.
Yeah, he wasn't supposed to run. So that's the whole thing is crazy. I mean,
they're all doped up.
But like you said about the narrative that they want you to believe, the
narrative doesn't come from health problems. The narrative comes from, you know,
nobody's concerned about the health of the athlete.
We say that, but nobody really is concerned about the health of the athlete.
They're concerned about an unfair advantage.
Yeah, they're concerned about someone being able to do what we suspected the
Russians were doing back in the 50s.
And that was really enlightening, too, when you were talking to that guy that
was saying that they had found out about it from the Russians doing it in the
1950s.
And from then on, they were doping over shots of vodka. They were actually
hanging out with the Russian strength coach.
And he was, you know, a little loose, loosey-goosey. And he sort of slipped up
and was like, yeah, we're giving our guys testosterone.
So as soon as that got out of the bag, Dr. Ziegler raced home and he created Dianabol,
which was even a stronger steroid than was currently available on the market.
And they started testing guys with, like, five milligrams of Dianabol.
And, of course, they found other ways to get it through the testing facility or
however they were getting their hands on it once it was manufactured.
And that's when it became, you know, the Wild West, basically.
It was like people started taking 20 milligrams and getting way stronger.
It's kind of crazy because, you know, if you want to get better at something,
people don't have a problem with people using certain means.
Or people don't have a problem with someone going to a supplement store and
purchasing something that doesn't work.
But as soon as you take something that's powerful, people are like, well, wait
a second.
We don't want you doing that good.
I was always telling people that the strongest shit I ever took, they made
illegal.
But you used to be able to buy it at GNC.
It was called Mag-10.
Do you remember that stuff?
Oh, yeah.
Totally, yeah.
Oh, my God.
That stuff.
I took that shit for, like, whatever it was, like, six weeks.
I gained, like, 10 pounds.
I was jacked up all the time.
It was like a bunch of pills.
You had to take, like, 10 pills.
And after it was over, my dick died like it got hit with a meteor.
My dick was useless.
It was useless for, like, weeks.
It took me for my testosterone to come back.
It was like, oh, this is steroids.
Like, real steroids.
You could buy at GNC.
And so they made it illegal.
Those drugs are more dangerous than the actual real testosterone.
Yeah, they'll bloat you and all kinds of stuff, too.
I don't know what the fuck was in it, either.
I just bought it because it was legal.
Yeah, probably a lot of salt.
Yeah, a lot of sodium.
A lot of those pills, what they do is they'll give you a huge surge of estrogen
as well.
Yeah, bad for the tits.
Did your tits grow, too?
No, they didn't.
I got lucky.
But, you know, that's what one of the guys was on the U.S. powerlifting team
with Bruce
Jenner thinks happened to Jenner.
He believes that, well, first of all, he said he knows that they had Jenner
pumped full of
steroids.
Sure.
He said, we were all on steroids.
He goes, Jenner was absolutely pumped full of steroids.
And he said that is what started his, like, transition to want to be alive.
Wait a second.
Is this where I'm heading?
Well, maybe if you drop off a little bit.
Just stay on, dude.
Relax.
You know, that's interesting.
But Mark and I had this talk the other day.
And I think that this whole, like, gender issue and transgender and all these
different
things, like, I don't know how much that's linked to testosterone levels or not.
Like, I don't know if there's that many definitive studies on, like, whether
you're testosterone,
like, if you have a high estrogen level.
Yeah, because someone's gay, they don't have testosterone levels.
Yeah, there's a lot of people that are gay that have very high testosterone
levels.
And a lot of people can kick ass, too.
They're gay.
But those are gay.
They don't identify as female.
There is a difference there.
I don't know how that actually correlates.
I haven't read the studies on that stuff.
I think it's probably as difficult for us to understand as to understand what
it's like
to be a woman.
It's like, you don't get it.
You don't get it.
Like, they probably don't get what it's like to not want to be a woman.
You're like, eh, I'm good.
You're like, are you sure you don't want to be a woman?
Like, I'm good.
I'm good.
For me, it's everything.
All right, well, good luck.
In the powerlifting world, in the world of powerlifting, it's been sort of
turned on
its ear by a guy named Matt Kroc.
Is that his name?
Yeah, Kroc Oleski.
Marks can tell you a little bit more about him.
I've been friends with him for about a decade.
I've known about his issue for about six or seven years now.
And he's actually going to be on my show coming up soon.
But he's transgender.
And it's ruined relationships for him many times over.
He's got three kids.
He's a good father.
He's a good person.
He's a good dude.
Or female.
He's a good woman.
He's a good woman.
But, you know, the issue is really interesting.
And that's why I want to, like, you know, talk to him and try to help people
just better
understand it.
Because people get so mad.
That's the thing that I don't get is I do understand voicing your opinion and
saying,
fuck, man, that's weird.
Like, that makes sense to me.
But people actually getting mad and committing hate crimes and stuff, to me, it's
just disgusting.
I'm not on board with that.
Yeah, it is disgusting.
And I just, I got to think that it comes from their family, from the way they're
raised, that
their parents are ignorant.
It's the only thing that makes any sense.
Right.
I just think that we're moving past that.
I think there's more awareness and more acceptance for those sort of issues
that people have than ever before.
Yeah, this country worries about some fucked up shit.
There's a lot worse things going on.
What about the lion?
What about Cecil?
Yeah, yeah.
You're on steroids.
Who cares?
Cecil, the lion, and steroids.
Every day, another cop shooting somebody, and we're worried about, you know, we
concern
ourselves so much more with the tabloid media than we do with what's really
going on in this
country.
Well, the cop shooting part, you know, is a horrible thing, but cops on
steroids is something
that people don't talk about too much.
It's kind of hilarious when you see cops busting people for steroids, because
we all know, anybody
who knows people that take steroids knows that cops are on steroids.
Absolutely.
A giant chunk of them.
And you talk to them.
Cops busted their brother with steroids.
And they were probably on it when they were busting them.
Well, no, and after they took it, they confiscated it.
They confiscated it, and they never found it again.
And then every cop in Poughkeepsie, where we're from, got huge.
You know, they took like a thousand pills of Dianabol from them, and next thing
you know,
the cops are walking around all jacked.
Everyone's all jacked.
Well, I had talked to a guy who's a cop I used to work out with, and he had a
rational
explanation.
He's like, look, man, he goes, it's fucking gross out there.
He goes, it's dangerous as fuck, and you've got to be on top of your game, and
you
want to have an edge.
Right.
Meanwhile, dude was 570, weighed 250.
I'm like, you've got a couple of edges here.
You've got edges all over your body, dude.
He's just so fucking jacked.
That's great.
How do you even move like that?
Not very well.
Yeah.
Well, something we have to do is get a hold of him and hang on.
All you've got to do with a guy like that is ride the bull.
Well, I think a lot of people, look, if you taught those guys what you know in
jujitsu,
they'd be much more effective than taking steroids, but that's probably the
easier route, right?
That would help, but the reality is you're dealing with guns and knives and
shit like
that.
Yeah, so no matter how big you are, it doesn't even really matter, right?
No.
Well, you definitely should know how to defend yourself physically, 100%.
Every cop should be a black belt in something.
You should know what it's like to be in a wild melee with another person who's
trying to kill
you with their hands, but that's not going to protect you from guns and knives
and all
that gun defense stuff.
Like, that's an art in and of itself.
Like, you know, there's some guys who are experts in taking guns away from
people and
shit, but good luck with all that.
What do you think the major difference is between like UFC and Pride?
Like Pride, I don't think they really had rules, right?
They definitely had rules because they had no elbows, and that was a big issue.
No, I just meant testing-wise.
Oh, testing-wise.
Yeah, no, they didn't have rules at all.
In fact, they specifically said on their contracts that there was no testing
for steroids.
Ensign Inouye, who's one of the fighters from Pride, great guy, fought in the
UFC as well,
he did this whole thing about it where he came on the podcast and explained the
verbatim
contract.
It said, we are not going to test you for steroids.
Yeah, meaning like, go ahead and do your thing.
Yeah, well, they encouraged it.
I had a buddy of mine who would fight in America at 170, and they wanted him to
fight in Japan.
He went over there and had some meetings, like, you're 185.
And he's like, but I don't weigh 185.
I weigh 180 right now.
And he's like, no, they're starting to get into it.
185.
Like, they were, like, really sold on him being 185.
They wanted big Americans.
They wanted everyone to look like Mark Kerr.
Remember Mark Kerr?
Yeah.
He was amazing, yeah.
The Smashing Machine.