Name: Joe Rogan Experience #707 - Michael Dowd
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Description: Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #707 - Michael Dowd' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2015-10-14. Transcript available.

Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #707 - Michael Dowd' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2015-10-14. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #707 - Michael Dowd

All right, here we go
Boom, there we go. So, uh, first of all welcome. Thank you. Thanks for doing
this. Appreciate it. Thanks for having me
Your fucking documentary
That that might have been one of the craziest documentaries I've ever seen in
my life the seven five people haven't seen it
Dude what a fucking crazy life you lived
Jesus Christ. Do you feel lucky to be alive? You're embarrassed. I'm
embarrassed because you know
I'm looking at people that supposed to respect law enforcement and and it's
almost you know
Almost almost glorifying some of the crazy shit we did. I don't think it's glorifying.
I hope not. No, it's definitely not
I don't think it is. It's I think it's an honest portrayal of
People going off the rails because they didn't have that I mean that you had
the ability to do so
You know, I mean that's what it was debauchery, right? I mean, it's just
Untamed and and yeah, the ability to get away with things that you could no one
else could well
I think we're seeing today with law enforcement with all the stuff that's going
on with all these kids getting shot and all these
All this these videos that get taped of police abuse
We're seeing that for the longest time
This stuff just wasn't filmed that there was a lot going on me. We've all
witnessed
I'm sure you more than anybody but we've all witnessed some cops that were out
of control
And I think that's just what happens when people have power and you just kind
of they they get a little crazy
They you know when you don't have anybody checking that power and then on top
of it in your situation
There was cocaine and there was crime and there was all sorts of craziness
I mean, I learned about your documentary from Nick DiPaolo
He was on my buddy Ari Shaffir show and he was raving about this documentary
and it wasn't even out yet
It was you right pre-order it on iTunes, right?
I fucking hate that when you want to watch something people calling me like in
the middle of the night. Where's this documentary?
I can't get it. I'm like, let me call the people that all three media, you know,
like they don't give a fuck
You know, they're just they're just like I was sleeping right now. We're in
California time. I said, okay
Oh, they're not awake yet. Whatever. It's just ruinous. What did Nick see like
a pre-screening or something like that?
Did he see it in the movies? Um, I don't know. I think I hate to say this on
the air, but I think he pirated it
is
That's illegal
That's illegal because he had heard about it. Oh, buddy, and he couldn't get it
right and I was like kicking the ground saying, you know
Who's promoting this goddamn thing? They, you know, it's about my life and
people asking me a lot of questions about it
And I'm like, why don't you go see the documentary? Well, after like a week of
trying to get it
Then they throw their hands in the air and they're like we can't get it
So I had a lot of frustration over the way it was distributed, but I wasn't
involved in it
So I like in that part I white knuckled my way through that whole day
I didn't shut that off. I'm gonna tell you you and your audience how I mean, I'm
a I'm a nut like I love
Adrenaline shit, but I really can't sit through most things and when the movie
was
Premiered the first time it was seen ever by myself as well. I sat by the door
Thinking that one I'm gonna be bored or two
I'm not gonna like the the content in the movie and just leave the theater and
And my family and some friends were there, you know, not everybody, but you
know select people showed and I
Sat by the door and like in a minute and a half
I just turned around the seat and didn't fucking move and it's hard for me to
do
I mean you'll see throughout this throughout this conversation here. I'm all
over the map, but have you always been all over the map um?
You know, I think it's the Brooklyn the expressiveness with the body
You know we speak more with our body than our mouth for some reason. I don't
maybe we've short-tongued on the language English language, but
Just the way we I don't know be a cop you always watch your back, you know, so
There's a lot of you know, I don't know how to explain. It's just that's the
way we speak
Now this it's a very well done movie, but excellent the subject matter itself
the actual story itself the facts involved in the story are
Fucking completely insane. I mean you you guys
You were involved in so much craziness. It was out of control, but here you are
you're out on the street
You're doing podcasts, you know, you're doing press for the movie. Yeah, you
know
It's got to feel weird for you to have gone through that it's different lives
You know in the way I see it, you know as a young young boy young man police
officer convict inmate
Parolee and now I'm somebody else
It's just weird how you don't like a chameleon you just change with with the
environment
And that's how you adapt and overcome anything is you just have to learn how to
live with the environment you're in and
It seems like that's that doesn't seem the same first of all, you know, let's
be real
I was 23 24 years old when most of these incidents took place and then they
carried on
the more
Detailed the criminality took place later on as I got closer to my 30 year
number
But you're talking I'm 54 today
So my perspective on everything I did and my perspective on the world today is
way different than it was back then
You know
Yeah, whenever I try to watch a documentary about people doing crazy shit
I always imagine myself like what would I do if I was in that situation like
how how would I have reacted if I was a young man and
I probably would have been right there with you. Yeah, you know
It's sad but you know what's sad about that is it's people giving the
opportunity to do wrong and they can get away with it
You have to ask yourself this question if I could take that two hundred
thousand large right now
Just you know plain out question and never have any negative consequences
happen to me now
I'm not saying because she broke the moral code of policing and all that shit
I'm just saying just be a normal human being woke up find 200 large
No, one's gonna miss it. It's not yours and you're never gonna have any bad
karma or anything happen to you. Would you take it?
It's a good question and you don't know until you're right there
No, one's no one even no one even knows except for one person that it's theirs
And it depends on where you are in your life life you're broke you got kids you
got a mortgage
You have rent to pay your car's broken down. You got no gas money if you're a
55 year old man
And you have a happy family and you have a good career make a phone call and
probably do something nice
And you get on the news and look at this Michael Dowd what a gentleman gave
away two hundred thousand dollars
He found in a bag. Well, I didn't know what to do with it
My life is good, you know, I got a house on the hills and you're on blow
Yeah, it's um and also
It's interesting because you're constantly around people that are making insane
amounts of money and they're doing it by breaking the law
Yeah, let's let's let's focus a little bit here. This is the 1980s
Mm-hmm crack epidemic East New York right right so no action I do is justified
okay, right? I did wrong
I and I paid the fucking price
I hope you know some people want me for life some people want me dead, but you
know what fuck you too
All right, I'm here. I'm out. I did my time right I served it straight up
I walked the track by myself for 12 fucking years kiss my ass goodbye
Okay, so now I am here to talk about the stories that made the story the seven
five what it is
I didn't bring this upon myself
I mean the actions all that yes, but somebody approached me from Hollywood want
to do a documentary about this commission called the Marlin Commission
I told them it's a piece of shit deal do a story about the boys from the seven
five and I think you'll have a good movie
So what was the original thing they wanted to come to you about well?
I was the main focus which is a thread throughout the documentary is that there
was these
Hearings called the Marlin Commission, which if people know history they can go
back to the nap commission when Persico
Persico
Serpico
Persico is a guy that did time with
the Colombo family, but
So Serpico it was a cop who got shot in the face in the movie Serpico
Mm-hmm and in fact he actually commented on this documentary to Tilla Russell
the director
I got a I don't know it's two in the morning because you guys out here don't
know a fucking time
It's two in the morning my my text message goes off because it's
10:30 at night or 11 o'clock at night for him
I just got a phone call from Serpico saying it's the best movie he's ever seen
in his fucking life
Wow, you know, and I'm like fuck Serpico because I really don't like Serpico to
be honest with you because he said some nasty things about me one
and two he was a rat so
But you know he says well Mike he's a
Americana he's history, you know, and so I got to give him his props. I said
fine, but I really don't want to hear he liked my movie
Really, but you know certain people you keep at a distance and he's one of them
that I would choose to I'm gonna shake his hand and say you're a
good guy Serpico the line he he ratted out other corrupt cops. Is that what it
was? Yeah, he did the right thing
Yeah
So fuck and no one liked him
I mean, that's the way it is right. Was that movie accurate that Al Pacino
movie? I can't look I must yeah
What is the word is the word that it was accurate?
The word is that the shooting was not quite the way they said in the movie
itself, but he turned in his partners
You know they were he they wanted him to take the money and he wouldn't take
the money and you know
He was intransigent about it and yeah, someone shot him in the face
Now I've been in the building half a dozen times in the nine-0 precinct. They
actually shot another movie there by uh
One of the other actors. I can't think what's interesting is your partner when
you were your partner in this film
turned you in
But he was involved in a lot of it with you and he never wound up doing any
time
Yeah, I mean this story can go in many different directions here. Yeah, um
Kenny was let's consider a good cop. You know, he was there for the money
What was his last name?
Urel kenny urel he was there for the money
He would make collars he'd lock everybody's uh husband up like
You would have a fight with your wife in the ghetto and this is like a daily
daily thing, you know
And he would go there and lock you up and take you out. That was his gig. Yes
He did that for years. That was that was his overtime money
And I told him I don't really like to do those things and we got together and
he had like a specialty that was a specialty domestic violence
ironically
Ironically, okay, so I understand what you're saying. Yeah, so
Isn't that something it always is so um
So he would arrest these guys and how would he make money doing that?
Well, you'd overtime every arrest would would land you at least eight sometimes
16 hours of overtime
To ping upon what time you made the arrest oh
So he'd be able to make the arrest and go to sleep for fucking 12 hours and and
make you six seven dollars on someone's misfortune
And and if you know they may have been legitimately arrested i'm not saying
they weren't
So how would he make money off of going to sleep? I don't understand that so
when you're waiting to book a
Prisoner slash potential inmate you uh you have to wait
For hours and hours and hours so you sleep on on newspaper racks
Boxes in a hallway central booking you know central booking was like a mass
unit
Really so so you arrest a guy and then you go take a nap somewhere that's how
it was
Wow yeah, so you would get paid to lock somebody up so that's why the city was
against arresting drug dealers
Okay, this whole thing turns into a whole conundrum here. Yeah, like that word
anyway
The crack epidemic caused um the ci