Name: Joe Rogan Experience #726 - Josh Zepps
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #726 - Josh Zepps' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2015-11-23. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #726 - Josh Zepps

- Doom, doom, dum, da da dum.
- And we're live, Josh Zeps.
- I didn't even notice, and then I took a sip of coffee,
and then my mouth was full of coffee.
- Perfect timing.
- And I didn't realize.
- It's all right, dude.
- Should've had a countdown to five or something
instead of three.
- Well, Jamie was doing this thing with his fingers.
- Yeah, he was, I saw him over there
at the periphery of the corner of my eye.
I wasn't sure what he was doing.
Was it a countdown, was it a wave?
- Gang signs.
- Gang signs.
- That's his gang.
- Fucking Jamie.
- He's in the JRE gang, throws up the three, two, one.
- Will you teach me after the show, Jamie,
some of the signs? - Shhh, can't after the show.
You can't even talk about it, dude.
- Sorry.
- Keep on the DL.
- First rule of JRE gang.
You don't talk about JRE gang.
- Dude, it's the perfect time to have you in,
because the fucking world is literally about to go crazy.
- What's going on, about to?
- Yeah.
- I feel like it has.
- It's just the bubbling.
I think, we think it has, but here we are
in this wonderful office park in the valley in California,
and everything's fine.
You go outside, there's birds chirping.
So the whole world hasn't gone crazy.
- That's true.
- But there's spots that are going fucking crazy.
Yale is going crazy.
- Yeah.
- You pay attention to that, the student thing.
- Absolutely.
I did my whole show about it last week on my new podcast,
which we're going to do an episode of after this.
- That's right, the new Josh Zeps podcast.
What is it called?
- Hashtag, we the people live.
If you search hashtag, we the people live,
we're so down with the hip social future.
You got to get with it, Joe.
- I do.
Hashtags are something I only use like in jest, you know?
- Yeah, well, this is sort of in jest.
It's tongue in cheek.
It's also a cool way of like, for people to search for you,
there's probably a bazillion, we the people lives podcasts,
but there's only one that's going to start with a hashtag.
So you put in a hashtag and ours will presumably be the first to come up.
- I use it for the UFC only, like #UFC193 if I'm talking about like an event.
- Yeah.
- I do that, but hashtags are interesting because if you ever go to hashtags,
you ever go to like #BlackTwitter?
- Yeah, I never do it.
- Jesus.
- It's a scary place.
- It's a giant big smile on his face.
That's where he spends 23 hours a day.
- Well, you know how sometimes, sometimes you don't need to go to them
because they come to you.
When you say something, then you get taken out of context,
then you get picked up by some blog and then all of a sudden,
like all over the weekend, I've been getting all these tweets
just out of the blue about what fascism is.
I was like, what, who are these people and why are they tweeting at me?
I don't even know.
I didn't even know that I said anything about fascism.
Well, it's because Breitbart picked up something that I did on a segment
on HuffPost Live last week and wrote something up about it,
about how apparently I implied that Donald Trump was a fascist,
which I actually didn't mean because I don't think that he is.
But, and then all of a sudden I'm in the hashtag.
Like I'm part of the hashtag about fascism without even choosing it.
I believe that most people who use the term fascist or fascism don't really
exactly know what the term means.
I think you're totally right.
So let's help them out right now.
Let's find the official definition of fascism because I think most people get
it wrong.
So fascism means an authoritarian and nationalistic right wing system of
government and social organization.
So people use that.
There's other definitions of it, of course, but extreme right wing,
authoritarian.
People use that for a lot of like non-fascist reasons.
That's true.
And I probably used it sloppily myself in the context in which Breitbart was
picking me up.
And they would have a point if I did come across as saying that Donald Trump
was a fascist.
But all the people who were tweeting back at me were saying fascism isn't right
wing, you idiot.
It's left wing.
It's left wing.
Socialism is the real fascism.
You don't even understand the meaning of the word.
So I just responded with a link to the Oxford dictionary, which also includes
the word right wing in it.
Like, yeah, it's mostly considered right wing, but people are using it in the
left wing circles now or about left wing circles because they're using it in
the authoritarian context.
That's right.
That is, I think that's applicable because a lot of what is going on in like
really extreme social justice left wing type organizations or groups is that
they're trying to control behavior and they're trying to mitigate criticism.
Like you can't criticize these concepts because these concepts are supported by,
you know, social justice.
And I've got an interesting study on that that I wanted that I brought for you,
which you're going to like.
And before I get to it, I want to, I don't want to forget what I was just
thinking when you were talking about how here we are in the valley, birds
outside, chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, sunshine, trees.
That's a very good, that's a very good birdie, Joe.
Thank you.
Practiced that all day.
Give us my little one.
I want to hear it again.
I'm going to put that as my ringtone.
All right, do it, dude.
You'll never hear your phone.
Just put up really, really loud.
So I was in Beirut briefly a few months ago and was standing on the rooftop of
this swanky hotel looking out over the Mediterranean and looking out over the
houses.
And I was like, this is like an idyllic, beautiful part of the world in terms
of its natural beauty.
And I could practically swim from here to the Greek islands, how people are
basically, right?
The refugees.
Yeah.
And I had just been in the Greek, in Athens as well, which is like geographically,
physiologically, Italy, Greece are the same as all these fucked up parts of
North Africa and Israel and Palestine and Lebanon and not to mention Syria.
And I was like, just struck by how capable we are of fucking things up as
people.
Because the actual geography is the same.
Like those waves are the same waves as the ones on the Italian Riviera.
Right.
But the Italian Riviera is the Italian Riviera.
And this shithole is this shithole.
Through no difference of climate or sun or the birdies are still there.
The birdies are the same.
But religion and politics just has an endless capacity to screw things up.
You could call it religion or politics, but it's really just power.
It's human beings trying to achieve power.
And you could do it through whatever modality you choose.
But the reality is it's just people that are trying to control other people and
trying to gain things.
But I think it's in particular tribes trying to control other tribes.
And politics and religion make you much more likely, make it much easier to be
tribal.
Much easier to not be an individual.
Sorry, but sort of.
But isn't the argument against that what we were just talking about in terms of
social justice warriors and people calling people fascists.
I mean, you're in a tribe.
If you're on the extreme left or the extreme right, you're in a tribe.
You know, when you talk to right-wing people, they're almost incapable of not
bringing up liberals.
Or the liberals think, they don't just bring up their own concepts and their
own thoughts.
They'll immediately disparage liberal ideas.
Like, immediately.
Well, you know, they'll tell you, well, you're a liberal.
You know, you believe in this and this and that.
So, you're a liberal.
And they'll, like, immediately, like, downplay your ideas.
That's a tribal thing.
Absolutely.
That's politics.
It's religion.
And social justice warriors will do the same thing.
They'll do the same thing about, I mean, my, you know, the first time I came to
your attention was with that interview with Suey Park,
the cancel Colbert activist, right?
And conversing with-
Still one of my favorite.
When you just broke it down to her, you're like, this is so fucking
unbelievably stupid.
And you could tell she was just, like, devastated that you even had the balls
to question her.
To people who haven't seen it, she wanted to have the Colbert report canceled
because apparently it was racist.
And I did an interview with her on HuffPost Live.
Well, not only that.
It was a joke about someone being-
Yeah, it was a satirical joke.
Well, for people who don't even know the show, Colbert plays a character.
He plays an extreme left-wing kind of goofy character.
Excuse me.
Extreme right-wing kind of goofy character.
And in that context of that character, he made a joke about racism.
Like, it was a joke about racism.
And in that-
It was a funny joke, too.
Do you remember what the joke was?
Yeah, I do.
It was Dan Snyder, who's the head of the Redskins, right?
Yes.
Who was saying that he-
So that he didn't have to change the name of the Redskins because it was racist,
he was going to set up a charity for Native American causes.
And Stephen Colbert, in his right-wing persona, said that sometimes he'd been
accused of doing jokes that could be considered to be offensive about Asian
people.
So, in return, he was going to set up the Ching Chong Ding Dong Foundation for
Sensitivity Towards Orientals or whatever.
Or whatever.
And she found that offensive.
Yeah.
Not really.
I don't believe she really did.
I think she found it.
It was a green light for her to attack and to use hashtag activism.
And to get some publicity.
There's a story that's making the rounds today.
A Kansas City University professor who, in a class about racism, a discussion
about racism and discrimination, she used the word nigger.
And in using the word, all these students are trying to get her fired.
Right.
And she's been removed of her duties right now.
She's been temporarily suspended under review or whatever their process is.
But in just saying the word, not saying someone is like, this is a word that
people have issues.
Let's discuss words that people have issues with.
What are the origins of these words?
Why are they problematic?
What is, you know, what can be done about this?
I'm not sure exactly what the context of her class is, but they-
I'm sure the context wasn't, let's go around accusing black people of being niggers.
Absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
But this is the same kind of thing.
I don't believe anyone in that class was actually hurt by that.
Well, we sort of-
I think they found the green light and they attacked.
Yeah.
Don't we learn what to be offended by?
Yes.
So, it's possible that someone felt like an initial kind of reaction of, oh my
God, I just heard that word.
That's a good point.
And I've been told that that word is completely unacceptable under all
circumstances.
And I've been told that I'm allowed to be offended.
Yeah, that's right.
And indeed ought to be offended.
Yes.
And so, like, I was amazed by the power of that word when I first came to the
States.
Because only here do we have this dumbass word, the N-word, like that phrasing.
I mean, I'd never heard that until I came to the States.
In Australia, it was completely unacceptable to ever use the word nigger
against somebody.
You would just never do that.
I mean, I was taught since the earliest days that racism is terrible.
But you could talk about it in polite company.
I mean, if it came up, you would be able to discuss the existence of the word.
And nobody would ever say the N-word.
But you guys have racism towards aborigines.
Totally.
That's pretty real over there.
This is another-
But it's not towards black people, right?
No, that's right.
But there is a much, much, much bigger awareness of the kind of tragedy of the
original sin of what happened when Australia was settled than there is here
towards Native Americans.
I sort of regard Native Americans as being the people who've really been
screwed in this country.
I mean, not that it should be a competition of, like, whose suffering was worse.
They were like, I'll put my