Name: Joe Rogan Experience #739 - Duncan Trussell & Christopher Ryan
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #739 - Duncan Trussell & Christopher Ryan' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2015-12-23. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #739 - Duncan Trussell & Christopher Ryan

How strong are these?
Shouldn't have two, right?
I definitely wouldn't have two of those.
Okay.
Dunkin' Trussell.
It's 240 milligrams of caffeine.
No, I can feel it rising inside of me.
Yeah, baby.
See, why do you want to ruin Star Wars?
What?
I was kidding.
I'm not going to do that, man.
I heard a lot of people were saying that they heard it was crap,
that it wasn't good, but everybody I know that saw it said it was awesome.
I loved it.
You loved it.
I went with people who didn't like it.
It's like, what are you thinking, man?
What did you think we were going to go see?
It's called Star Wars.
Like, it's the most obvious kind of thing.
I don't know why people have expectations for Star Wars.
What was the expectations?
I guess they're looking for a plot.
I guess they're looking for, no, you know what I mean?
I guess they're looking for some kind of, like, deep, like, meaning or
something like Quentin Tarantino or some Kubrick-esque thing.
Right.
But it's Star Wars.
It's a space opera.
It's like, go in there with no expectations.
Be happy for the colors.
That's it.
Yeah.
The beautiful colors.
And then after that, if there's something else.
It's things flying through space and lasers.
It's a very confined genre.
It's very confined.
And you know it's not going to step outside of the box.
It's not going to be weird sexually.
It's not going to have some strange murder tension.
There's not going to be, like, any unrequited love.
There's going to be just some normal space themes with Joseph Campbell's hero's
journey.
That's it.
It's mixed in with a lot of mystical stuff that you can connect to, which is
beautiful.
It's great.
I had a great time.
Have you ever heard Lucas talk about his friend, Joseph Campbell?
Like, literally wrote Star Wars based on Joseph Campbell's steps of a hero's
journey.
It's fascinating.
They were good friends.
Yeah.
The hero with a thousand faces is his classic book.
Yeah.
And then he did, have you seen his interviews with Bill Moyer's Power of Myth?
That was fantastic.
He's awesome.
Or he was awesome.
So Joseph Campbell used to go up and give a lecture at Lucas Ranch every year
on mythology.
What's Lucas Ranch?
Where George Lucas made Star Wars.
Oh, George Lucas Ranch.
Oh, okay.
Up in, I think it's Marin or Sonoma.
And so he would go up when they were working on the original Star Wars and give
a lecture
to the crew, everybody, about mythology every year.
And then when Campbell died, your friend and mine, Stanley Krippner, filled in
for him.
Oh, wow.
That's interesting.
Wow.
Stanley's amazing, too.
What an interesting guy that was.
I just saw him a week ago.
Duncan happened to text me while I was talking with doing a podcast with
Stanley or just finished.
And I said, oh, you've got to meet my friend Duncan.
He's really interesting.
He's a comedian, but he's really into the spiritual stuff.
And he just got back from seeing, hanging out with Ram Dass in Hawaii.
And Stanley says, well, does he know that Ram Dass was a stand-up comedian for
a time?
I feel like he got him mixed up with Timothy Leary.
Because I know Timothy Leary went on a tour doing, like, some kind of thing
called stand-up.
But I don't think Ram Dass did it.
But I know Timothy Leary tried stand-up.
Well, he said he saw him in the village in a club.
Ram Dass?
Ram Dass, yeah.
Well, hey, why not?
Man, he's probably on Acid.
Richard Alpert.
Alpert.
He's probably thinking, fuck it.
Why not?
Let me give it a shot.
I mean, he's a good, he's a great speaker.
And he is pretty funny.
Yeah, you said he's, like, a very humorous guy to talk to, right?
Yeah, he's super funny, yeah.
Yeah.
Which is, I've noticed that seems to be a quality in people who have a real
spiritual practice.
They're funny.
They're always funny.
They always have this real specific, non-bullshit style of humor.
It's really hard to offend them.
That's, you know, quite often that's how I can tell if somebody's got a real
practice,
is they're usually impossible to offend.
Like, there isn't anything that you can say that's going to make them upset.
But, you know, the alarm bells start going off in my mind when you get around
people who you say something and you see,
oh, shit, I triggered the alarm system.
I have offended this person, which is really curious to me.
Like, how are you in tune with the universe and yet still something that a
monkey descendant says out of the end of his feeding tube causes you to feel
revolted?
You're so vulnerable.
You're so vulnerable.
If you're so tough, why are you such a pussy, essentially, psychically?
Well, not like, it's like the opposite of tough.
No, yeah, but I agree.
Like, sophisticated.
Like, you know what's going on.
It's the way they've described it, or I've heard it described, which is super
cool, whenever Ram Dass talks about his guru, Neem Karoli Baba, is that there
was nothing there.
Like, there's no obstruction.
Like, anything that, everything was just sort of going through this person, you
know, as opposed to, like, me, I get on the phone with Bank of America, they've
frozen my card because I went to Australia, and, like, I'm seething with rage,
you know?
Like, what the fuck?
I'm in another fucking country.
I have to check in with my fucking bank, you know, or whatever it is that, like,
triggers you to freeze up.
Some people, they get to the point, theoretically, where that, like, convulsive
seizure-like freezing up doesn't happen.
I'll tell you, I can get that in spurts.
I can get that in spurts from yoga, and here's how I can prove it.
A guy fucking nailed me on the highway while he wasn't paying attention, hit
the brakes, skid.
I watched him plow into my fucking car, in my white Porsche, the expensive one,
and it's a rare car, too.
I'm like, fuck, I hope you didn't total the car.
I got out, and the first thing I said was, are you okay?
I go, I'm okay, we're cool, and I, like, literally wasn't upset at all.
Yeah, that.
I wasn't upset, but I've been doing yoga, like, four days a week, and I was a
little high, you know?
Probably still from the afternoon, I think.
I was probably, like, at least under the influence of cannabis to the point
where I was, like, a little bit more relaxed,
but I just, I can only get there for, like, bursts.
Like, when you're busy with work and life, and it can overwhelm, and you get
mad at, like, someone doing a shitty job parking.
Like, come on, fuckhead.
Park your fucking car, stupid.
Yeah.
You know, like, you're backing up again.
Oh, my God, look at this retard.
You're backing up again.
And then I'll be, like, I'll catch myself, like, why?
Yeah.
I'm not even talking to this guy.
This guy's in a car, you know, 100 feet from me, and I'm openly mocking him out
loud.
Yeah, and corroding your insides as you do it.
I heard Wim Hof talking about this, and maybe it was on your podcast.
He was talking about being under the ice and his retinas froze, and he couldn't
find the hole to get out.
And whoever he was talking with asked him, like, so, you know, what was the
panic like?
And he said, well, you know, when I'm in those situations or, like, when I got
lost in a whiteout on Mount Everest in my shorts, there's no stress.
Because then it's all just, like, it takes you back to yourself, to who you
really are.
And I know in my core, I am, like, you know, competent and, you know, confident.
And so he was saying, like, it's been demonstrated that you can generate more
stress hormones lying in your bed and just thinking about something stressful
than what actually happens when you're in a moment of actual danger.
You sort of shift into another gear.
Like, when that car hit you, that changed your whole world, right?
It's like now you're framing it as, am I going to survive this?
Well, I knew I was going to survive because he wasn't going that fast.
Oh, okay.
But I was just thinking that my car was going to be totaled.
And you're watching him in the rearview mirror?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I was stopped.
And, you know, dude, some guy almost hit me today.
On his phone, like, with his phone literally on the steering wheel as he's
texting and driving, it just went right into my lane.
It's constant.
People are constantly doing it.
They're just not paying attention.
And then if something happens, when the guy rear-ended me, the lane was closed
for some reason, like construction.
So everybody had gotten to that on-ramp on, like, Hollywood or the 101 and Highland,
you know, that exit.
And it was shut down for whatever reason.
So we were all stopped in a big line.
And this dude just barely paid attention.
And then all of a sudden, shit.
And I could see his face, like, gritting his teeth and pulling his face.
I'm watching in my rearview, tensing up.
Bang!
My car stalls out, goes flying into another lane.
That's where you don't want to be on a motorcycle.
Oh, my God, yeah.
Oh, God.
Oh, my God, yeah.
That's so dangerous.
If you get hit like that on a motorcycle, you might be paralyzed.
You might be dead easily.
And you can't get off in time.
And it's not your fault.
That's the thing.
Nothing you can do.
I mean, I rode a bike for seven and a half years.
And I always felt like I've got everything under control.
But there's that.
There's those wild parts.
Do you jump off?
If you have the time, do you jump off and get the fuck out of the way?
Well, I never.
I wasn't, like, a competitive, you know, racer.
I mean, if you're stopped dead and you see a guy coming from behind you, do you
jump off?
I don't know.
Or do you let it hit you?
What the fuck do you do?
I don't know.
But I'll tell you, you're hyper aware of all the space around you on a bike.
So I'm always, if I'm stopped, and I know, like, on a highway situation, I'm
always watching behind me.
Yeah.
Because you feel you develop that vulnerable sense.
Fuck that, man.
Bikes are scary.
Fuck that.
Remember Bill Burr telling us what it, he was, I guess, at the ice house.
He's, like, riding a motorcycle is, like, imagine sitting on the hood of your
car driving that way.
Fuck that.
It's like you look down at the road buzzing by at 70 miles an hour.
And it's, like, I could reach out my toe and just grind it off, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, you know, but it's like a metaphor for so many other things in life, right?
Do you really want to be, do you want to have the illusion of separation?
Or do you, are you actually safer being intimate with the danger of what's
going on?
So you're hyper vigilant.
Because in a car, you're looking at your phone, you're fucking with the radio,
because you've
got this sense that I'm in a room and everything's cool until you hit the tree,
you know?
There's definitely that.
You can definitely get too detached.
And as things get more and more automated, it's going to be weirder and weirder.
Because now you can tell your car things.
Like, you've used that Hey Siri function.
Yes.
So you ask your car to text people, text people, tell it to send.
Last time I was on your podcast, you and I did this whole thing.
Yeah.
And I saw a bunch of people tweeted like, man, it fucked up my phone.
I shut it off.
They're listening to it in the podcast in the car.
I shut it off.
Because I'm like, how hard is it for me to press the button?
All I have to do is press the button and then I say it.
You know, I don't have to say that, do the Hey Siri thing.
But my point being is they have the Teslas now that they're coming with, they
have a new download that allows you to have your car automate itself.
Like, you set the directions and it navigates.
Yeah, I've seen that.
It drives.
Yeah.
It fucking drives itself.
So, like, then it's going to get real weird when we switch back and forth
between that and then actual driving.
Like, the space out factor of people, like, when they have to drive again, they
might not be used to it.
Yeah, it's the space between automation and, like, semi-automation and full
automation that is going to be really dangerous.
But, man, the dream is you leave your house, your car looks like a little
living room.
A little pod with 