Name: Joe Rogan Experience #749 - Carlos Condit & Erwan Le Corre
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #749 - Carlos Condit & Erwan Le Corre' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2016-01-21. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #749 - Carlos Condit & Erwan Le Corre

is it live all right we're live carlos condit and irwan liqueur welcome
gentlemen welcome thanks for
doing this appreciate it of course thanks for having us um so how first of all
for folks who
are not aware of the situation what's going on uh carlos professional mma
fighter one of the best
in the world just fought for the welterweight title extremely close fight
against robbie lawler
and you spent a lot of your time uh this camp how i mean how many camps was it
were you training with
irwan two now two now yep and irwan you are a movement specialist and this is
all the rage in
mma right now it's really kind of fascinating as this sport grows and develops
we're looking at a
sport that's really only realistically been around since 1993 that's when it
sort of formed martial
arts of course has been around forever but as a sport where people really
started picking it apart and
trying to figure out what's the best way to pursue this it's really only been
since about 1993 when
the ufc first started and the most recent trend is guys trying to improve upon
balance movement and their
ability to close distances and uh and attack and be in a position to constantly
be able to do that in
between those techniques so instead of concentrating on just hitting pads or
just doing you know shooting
doubles or doing various drills you're concentrating on the movements that take
place in between those
techniques is that a fair way to describe it um yeah and and i think that the
movement uh
also helps uh in in in the techniques themselves you know we we can focus
specifically on on you know
martial arts techniques techniques which are you know on a base level movement
right right and how did
you guys get hooked up uh i reached out to carlos yeah actually it's one of
your comments that you were
commanding on one of those ufc events and you you talked about the current
state of the welterweight division
and at some point you talked about carlos and he was still recovering from his
injury and and you said
that at this point uh you know he was 31 or three years old back then and uh it's
like it was a serious
injury and that from then on it could only somewhat get slower and that made me
react because it was both
true and not true true from a conventional standpoint it's true but from a uh
training coaching uh movement
practice standpoint i knew there was a possibility to uh to reverse that to
improve right and that this
is actually that common that made me think carlos is right there i need to
reach out to him i can
train him and i can show that there are some different methods that can bring
results even in uh seasoned
fighters uh like carlos what is your background training in the woods a lot
when i was a kid moving in
the woods climbing trees jumping from rock to rock and being not only being
encouraged to do that by my
own dad um uh and uh and then later on i did some extreme trainings i would say
in paris with a very
small group and we would climb scaffoldings and we would jump off bridges and
we would balance on top of
the class scaffoldings like parkour type stuff it was it was a parallel
movement because uh the founder of
parkour david bell was almost my neighbor and practically we're the same age
but we we didn't
know each other back then and i was following an old guy and we would do these
uh these trainings
because we were somewhat um wanted to go against the normalcy the you know how
heavy the inertia of
normalcy of wanting to do uh to know ourselves uh through through movements and
exercises and
challenges that were complete out of out of this world what do you mean by
heavy the inertia of
normalcy what exactly do you mean by that well i like to say that normalcy is a
silent killer a lot
of people are just extremely bored by their day-to-day routines it kills them
it shrinks their comfort zone all
the time and um it robs their their their creativity their their vitality um
because we're not meant to
live such predictable lives and um we're actually we're supposed to be
extremely adaptable at a mental
and and physical level and we we need to uh train that adaptability by uh
presenting ourselves with the
challenges that are going to maintain that adaptability it's it's we need a
strategy um if a lifestyle is
boring if we're born in our lives bored in our lifestyle uh there's nothing in
this world that's going to
really uh change that uh we can entertain ourselves we can consume tons of
entertainment but what we need
truly to get out of this is a strategy uh to a perception of oneself that is
different and then the
strategy that's in line with that perception of a stronger self of a more free
self i know it's very
philosophical but while you ask me you ask me about it i'm i'm just telling you
the the the way i think
about it if i had followed uh you know what the the box the the textbooks the
uh the conventions i would
not be in the place i am today i would not have done what i've created so it's
a philosophy as much as
it's a training modality because everything in life is philosophy that you call
it philosophy outlook
perspective opinion values whatever you call it it's something in your mind is
a certain perception
that makes you see yourself see the world a certain way and behave accordingly
right a bodybuilder
you may you may think that's purely physical but it's not it's a philosophy the
the guy who wants to
be big as a perception of himself as being very big and he's going to train
accordingly so it always
starts with the perception and then you behave accordingly so everything in
that sense is philosophy
now when you met this character what was your first impression why do all these
movement teachers look
like jesus because that's a question that's been coming up over and over again
on the forums and i feel
obligated to ask um well i think they are portal yeah that i think they're a
long you know they're of the
the the naturalistic persuasion yeah um so uh first first impression of erwin
was that he's very intense
you know we went and we you know there's a wooded area there in albuquerque and
we you know i thought
we're gonna go play around you know walk on some you know walk on some logs and
just kick in immediately it's
like no we're working and it was you know from from the first time that we
started he was you know
demanding excellence and you know demanding uh quite a bit of of of focus and
for me you know i'm kind
of like a you know add type of person and i'm you know i that's that's why i
fight there's a lot of
different things to do i can move i can play i can focus at certain times then
go around at other times and
and um working with erwin it's not only been uh beneficial for for me
physically but also um you
know as far as my my my focus and uh just my my attention um physically
initially it was hard man i
was i was just maybe seven or eight months off of my knee surgery um my body
was stiff i had a great
physical therapist and we were making progress in in that respect but um i wasn't
there yet i had a
lot of imbalances i was i was you know you know it was i was still kind of up
what um what type of
knee surgery you had acl reconstruction did you get cadaver or patella i had a
allograft yeah a cadaver
i'd like that that's my favorite one i encourage people to do that i know that
guys have said that it
doesn't take but when guys say it doesn't take i always wonder if they were
training too hard too
quick so um i have a good friend who's a uh orthopedic surgeon and he he told
me that it's strong
initially because they use somebody's achilles tendon yeah which is you know
four times thicker than your
actual it's 150 percent stronger than a regular acl um but as your body's assimilating
it uh it gets weaker
um you it apparently you your body does this scaffolding of its own cells
around it as it's
assimilating it to your own tissue and um it it gets weaker during that point
eventually you wait a
year 18 months it's going to be stronger than it was before but in that period
seven eight months where
you're feeling good um the uh inflammation's gone away the swelling's gone down
you're like oh i feel i
feel amazing i can go train i can go spar boom you blow it yeah and they say it
didn't take but
that's not really true right you know i don't i don't think it's true that wasn't
my experience yeah
thankfully from what i've talked to doctors they that's exactly how they said
it too that you feel
really good and you start training hard then you blow it out ed herman did that
dominic cruz did that
a bunch of guys have done that and it's um it's it's very common yeah so uh you
know erwin and i start
working together uh initially it sucked man i couldn't do hardly any of this
stuff and i'm a high
level athlete and it was frustrating so um i would go and i didn't put a little
bit of information from
him i'd work a little bit by myself and then the next time we worked i'd i
would have made some progress
and um you know we'd work together for you know once a week maybe twice a week
for over a year now
and now how how are your camps structured because a lot of people they
structure their camps are very
regimented they have particular days for strength and conditioning and it's all
sort of designed so
that they have enough time to recover for their skill work and especially if
you're working at specific
techniques for a specific type of fighter and you you would have to incorporate
all these things
and then this movement training and stuff as well like how would you figure out
when to put that in
did you have to experiment or every camp really is an experiment because um as
i've grown as an athlete
i've changed i've got older you know i have to take more time off than i did
before i have to really
um you know pay attention to my body so we do have somewhat of a structure like
that um but it's also
every every all the scheduling is tentative it's like okay yeah i have this
scheduled on this day
but if i'm feeling like shit i'm not gonna go in there and do that that's that's
a good way to get
hurt right it's a big fight i can't i can't get up so when you feel like real
worn out you have to
sort of like really be paying attention to your body yeah absolutely um and we
do active recovery um
my strength and conditioning um you know the place that i that i go um we do a
lot of different things
they they use some uh biofeedback uh software that's pretty cool you stick some
sticky pads on
your body and like an ekg thing and it can actually tell you physiologically um
what your readiness level
is and this has been being used by a ton of different um uh you know
professional athlete
or professional teams um uh collegiate teams and professional teams and olympians
so they're
checking like muscle balance uh lactic acid no this i what it what it does is
it measures um heart rate
variability and uh central nervous system activity and the correlation between
the two and whatever
their algorithm is that they've come up with to figure out you know the you
know what what the the
correlation means they can you know you got a little dumb screen that shows you
blue blue or green you
know yellow red as far as your trainability i can you know i can do strength
and speed uh but my my power
and strength you know uh level readiness is is down and then so we we use that
as a tool there's some time
we just got to go sometimes you just got to go old school and be like you know
yeah this you know this
is this is fancy but i need to push through today um but it's it's it's a tool
to help mitigate over
training wow that's that's really fascinating so it seems like experience is
probably the most important
thing then i think so i i think so and that's hard though when i'm in training
camp i'm like a racehorse
man i want to run and i really need somebody to you know pull back the reins
and sometimes i can do that
myself but sometimes i'm in you know in shark frenzy mode i just want to go go
go go go and uh you know
and 