Name: Joe Rogan Experience #772 - Mark & Chris Bell
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #772 - Mark & Chris Bell' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2016-03-09. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #772 - Mark & Chris Bell

I'm in a rush today.
Yes, we're live.
Gentlemen, welcome back.
What's up?
Welcome back, Joe.
So, I watched a documentary last night.
Holy shit.
You holy shitted me twice already.
Really?
You holy shitted me with Bigger, Stronger, Faster, and now you holy shitted me
with prescription
thugs.
It's kind of crazy, right?
We have a $300 billion prescription drug habit in this country, yet we rank
number 50 in
life expectancy.
Makes no sense.
Well, it all came down to Ronald Reagan.
That's what's really crazy, when they allowed people to, allowed pharmaceutical
companies
to advertise on television.
I can remember when those things first started showing up.
Well, you know, medicine turned into a business, and when it turned into a
business, that wasn't
a very good thing for the consumer.
No, at all.
No, it's terrible.
How much further do you think life expectancy has changed over the last 100
years?
Well, over the last 100 years, I think it's changed dramatically, but I think
the last,
like, what, 50 years, probably not so much.
I mean...
From what I've seen, it's about 20 years.
Not that much.
Well, how much would you think it would be?
I don't know.
I just think it'd be more.
I don't know.
You hear about modern medicine just being such a big thing and it being able to
help
you.
But we also have a tainted food supply, which we were talking about a little
bit.
That's really hard to get healthy, to be healthy, totally healthy.
Well, it requires effort, for sure.
It definitely requires you to pay attention.
It definitely requires you to watch what you eat, and most people don't want to
do that.
But what's stunning to me, I mean, there was a lot of stunning things in that
documentary,
but the sheer numbers of prescription pain pills that are prescribed in this
country every
year, that's staggering.
They said, what was the actual quote?
That there was enough pain pills to get every single adult human in this
country high...
For a month.
For a month.
Around the clock for a month.
Turned everybody to zombies.
How fucking insane is that?
Yeah, I mean, that's kind of what we're doing.
I mean, a lot of people are just walking around, checked out.
And, you know, one thing that I didn't know when I was addicted to painkillers
was that
actually 2 ibuprofen and 2 Tylenol have been clinically proven to be twice as
effective
as opiate painkillers.
But if a doctor told me, as a patient, to take ibuprofen and Tylenol together,
I'd be
like, you're out of your mind.
Give me the good stuff.
Yeah, you wouldn't feel he's doing enough for you, right?
I think that's a mentality that we have, and it's a mentality that I totally
admit to,
is if I go to a doctor, I want to get a prescription.
But now I've changed that mentality, but that's a mentality I did have.
Even if you go to a doctor and they give you a prescription of ibuprofen, they
give you
800 milligrams.
Yeah, that's a lot.
So 2 is 4, right?
It's 400 milligrams for 2 ibuprofen and then 2 Tylenol, which I don't know what
the milligrams
of Tylenol is.
I don't usually take that, but...
I have arthritis really bad.
Yeah?
My knees, I had my hips replaced at 33 years old.
My ankles hurt every day, everything.
And the Advil and the Tylenol combination has been knocking it out of the park
for me.
And I actually learned that from doing press for this movie.
I learned that from Dr. Drew, of all people.
Really?
Yeah.
That's incredible.
And how long have you been doing that?
Like 2 Advil and 2 ibuprofen?
Maybe 2 months, about.
And it makes a big difference?
It just helps me get through the day.
It helps me be pain-free.
You know, the other thing that a lot of people talk about that I think just
definitely needs
to be talked about is medical marijuana.
Because I'm an addict and I've been through rehab and everything, I don't
personally use
it.
But I think for people that don't have a problem with, you know, consuming
everything, I think
it could be great.
So you have a problem in the sense that, like, even marijuana, something that's
not physically
addictive, once you start smoking it, you'll want other things.
I'm only, I've only been sober about 22 months.
So I just feel like I'm not ready to really take that dive because I might
smoke some weed
and then end up, you know, taking some pills and drinking and jumping in the
pool naked
and going to jail, you know?
Hey now.
Well, if you just get naked for jumping in the pool naked, I mean, if you get
arrested
for that.
Yeah, but that wouldn't be the end of it.
I mean, it would keep going.
He and I were talking the other day a little bit about, like, you know,
everybody wanting
to justify their drug of choice.
Right.
You know, obviously I've been on performance enhancing drugs for a long time.
And so everybody wants to justify, oh, it's not addicting or it's not this or
not that.
It is addicting.
Any behavior that you practice over and over again is going to become addicting.
You're going to like the side effects to it.
You're going to like some of the feel to it.
So everybody, I think a lot of times kind of kidding themselves when they're
saying,
oh, pot doesn't do anything or, you know, it's like, it's like, well, it does
something.
It doesn't make you function the best probably, you know?
Well, it certainly can be psychologically addictive.
Right.
Certainly.
I mean, it helps your functioning in some ways.
That's one of the things that people have gotten mad at me for arguing.
Makes you a fucking badass at video games.
That's for sure.
It helps you at pool for sure.
Helps with music.
Like, honestly, I think that like God put everything, if you believe in God or
whatever, but we
have a system, like everything is put on this earth for a reason.
And if, you know, they always say, let medicine, hypocrisy said, like, let
medicine be thy cure
and the cure be medicine, you know, food be medicine or whatever.
So like food as medicine is something that traces like way back, you know?
So things that are found on the earth that we can use rather than synthetically
make, I think
it just makes logical sense.
Well, yeah.
Well, it definitely is probably a smarter way to do it.
I don't think his name is hypocrisy, right?
Is it?
I don't know.
Socrates?
What is his name?
Socrates, right?
Hippocrates?
Hippocrates?
You're on to something.
You're close.
Hippopotamus?
I don't know.
One of them old dead Greek motherfuckers.
Yeah, yeah.
They're old.
But the sheer numbers of Oxycontins and pain pills that are being prescribed in
this country,
it's, I was watching this television show where they were talking about
Massachusetts and
the problem, oh, it was Anthony Bourdain's show.
That's what it was.
And they were talking about all these people that got hooked on pain pills
because they got
injured from some job related or something or another.
When a doctor gives you an Oxyprescription, your Oxyprescription runs out or
they change
the regulations and then everybody turns to heroin.
And that's a big problem in this country where they've changed the regulations.
And there was another thing that you talked about on your documentary where
they changed
the way Oxycontins work where you can't crush them up and smoke them anymore
and they
lost 80% of their revenue from that.
Yeah, absolutely.
And that's something that just shows you that people are using them recreationally.
How insane is that?
Yeah, so that was one of the most staggering facts of the whole movie, I
thought.
But we just came back from the Arnold Classic and we, you know, there were some
guys deadlifting.
We went to this like pro deadlift event and these guys are pulling 700, 800
pounds.
One guy was kind of in almost a 900 pound range.
But he ran into somebody backstage that said he just, you know, he just saw the
film and he
lost his son to what, heroin, right?
It started as Oxycontin.
It went to heroin.
There you go.
And he told me, he said, you know, I wasn't going to lift anymore.
I just gave up on everything.
I saw your movie like a couple months ago.
And I said, you know what?
I'm going to go deadlift at this pro-am thing.
And he said, your movie made it possible for me to get over what happened to my
son to realize
like it wasn't so much his fault, right?
As he thought.
And so I think just stuff like that, like he told me that.
I was completely fine talking to the guy.
I walked away.
I just started bawling.
Because I know that you can even affect one person and that's the power of film
and documentaries.
That's what we're trying to do.
Well, that guy's on the right track because he said, now I feel it's my duty to
help other
people.
And I think that's the way people need to try to look at stuff is to try to,
you know,
we're here as human beings to learn from experiences.
And then I think we're all put here to help each other.
Well, yeah, you can definitely help.
I mean, if you've lost someone like that to reach out and find other people who've
also
lost people and you can help each other.
And you can also maybe help someone who is maybe thinking or would go down that
path and
watches your documentary and says, well, there's a real danger here.
Yeah.
The place that I went to, Cliffside Malibu, I have three people, three people
right now that
are in rehab there that have contacted me from watching the film.
And it's really hard to get into a lot of rehabs because of insurance companies.
And that's like, that's another huge problem in this country is the insurance
companies don't,
they want to pay for, they expect somebody to be smoking, drinking, doing
whatever for 30
years and unwind that in 15 days.
And that's just not going to happen.
You know, people need 90 days of treatment.
If you're going to go to a drug rehab, you need 90 days.
And so you need 90 days where you're not working, 90 days where you're just
staying in this
place.
Why is it 90 days?
Well, look, think about this.
You're working, right?
And you're a drug addict.
What productive work are you doing?
Like, let the guy go for 90 days.
He's going to come back a new person.
I think that we have to unplug.
There's no other way.
I mean, I think that it just leads to an early death, you know, if we don't.
That's so hard for people, though.
Yeah, you need time.
People that have work that need to get money.
Now, you can get out a little bit, right?
Like you did, right?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
I actually made this movie while I was still in rehab.
So there's definitely time, you know, to do things.
I think that, you know, you got to look at it this way.
Like, okay, I can't.
That's like almost like killing people from inside jail.
Yeah.
That's pretty talented.
I can't take 90 days to, like, just completely, like, fix my life, you know?
Right.
I think, I don't know.
I think time is more important, you know, to give the time and figure it out.
You did need, like, a full 60, though, where you were pretty much total
isolation, right?
The first 30 days, actually.
The first 30 days.
Pretty much totally, you know, kind of unplugged from everybody.
You just stayed up there, and what do you do with your time?
You go to meetings?
You're in a lot of meetings.
You know, it's all, like, peer groups.
You know, you're basically, like, with other people that are addicted to drugs.
And I would say, like, probably 80% of the people that were in rehab are
prescription drug addicts.
Do you know what one of the most effective methods of stopping people from
doing drugs is?
Ibogaine.
It's a psychedelic ritual drug.
Yeah.
They do, you can't do it in America.
It's illegal.
But they have clinics in Mexico.
My buddy, Ed Clay, he got hooked on pills, and he had a real problem with, same
thing, pain pills.
And was really despondent and fucked up.
Went down there, did an Ibogaine ceremony, and came back 100% clean.
And now he runs a clinic down there.
Any idea what that does for you?
Like, does it do something to your brain?
Well, we could Google it, but there's some sort of an effect that it does where
literally it shuts down addiction.
It's dee