Name: Joe Rogan Experience #809 - Aubrey Marcus
Uploaded: 2016-06-15T01:00:22.000Z
Description: Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #809 - Aubrey Marcus' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2016-06-15. Transcript available.

Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #809 - Aubrey Marcus' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2016-06-15. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #809 - Aubrey Marcus

- Do do, yee-haw.
- Hello world, what's up?
- What's going on brother?
- My man, back from fucking Canada.
- Back from Canada.
That was awesome.
- What was that experience like for you?
- Well, that experience was--
- Besides doing mushrooms
and running around the woods by yourself?
- That was the experience, what do you mean?
How can you exclude that?
How can you exclude that from me?
That's like taking away a fighter's ability
to talk about fighting, like shit.
- We were up in Canada bear hunting
and Aubrey decides to do mushrooms
and go run off into the woods.
- Yeah, well I had to check in, you know?
- I understand.
- See how I was on the right path.
- Yeah.
- Yeah, that was fucking, it was powerful, man.
Super powerful 'cause bears, as I was telling you,
bears have come to me in my visions
doing ayahuasca and everything since the drop.
Like from the very first time I was doing ayahuasca,
bears were coming to me and teaching me lessons
and I was talking to them.
- Like what kind of lessons?
- Man, the first time it came
was the first time I did ayahuasca
and I saw this bear and it was wrapped up in all these chains
and it was struggling against these like gold chains.
It was like a Mr. T bear had like fucking crown
and these like heavy gold chains
and he was like stuck and it couldn't move.
And the bear like stops.
He was like kind of frantic trying to get out of these chains.
He stops and looks at me and he goes,
"I remember when I was just a bear
and I didn't have to worry about all this shit."
And it was a lesson about the wealth that we have
can become like a prison that holds us back
and prevents us from being our true nature
with the bear's true nature is just being a bear,
chasing after shit, eating shit, climbing trees.
But the wealth that it accumulated
prevented it from doing that.
- What a bizarre, weird, right?
- What is that?
Like what, who's teaching you that?
Like what, is that your imagination?
Is that like, what's going on with that?
- I have no idea.
And, and that's, you know, it just appeared to me.
That's the funny thing.
Like it's so strange.
It feels real.
Like this is a spirit guy teaching you,
but it very well could be your imagination.
But man, I'm not that creative to think about a bear
in gold chains telling me a lesson about wealth.
- I have a thought on that, that we look at the imagination
and we say, oh, he's just imagining things.
But everything in the world is from the imagination.
Every building, every airplane, every car,
every piece of clothing, every computer,
everything came out of the imagination.
Everything.
I think the imagination is something really fucking weird.
And I think we've somehow or another,
we've almost like, I don't want to say we underestimate it,
but we underrate it.
We put it into this weird little category.
Like it's a silly thing.
Oh, you're just imagining.
And that allows it to operate.
And by, by underrating it or by undervaluing it,
it allows it to sort of roam free and do all of its work.
But it's responsible for creating everything that we see that humans have ever
done in the world.
Yeah.
It gets interesting for me too.
And you think about these mythical creatures like Bigfoots and dragons and
things like that.
When we create them, we actually create the light, the neurons in our brain
that form around that memory and that concept.
Even if we draw a monster, we've actually created that monster on like a micro
scale inside our brain.
And it's just, we value this macro scale of the world where it actually breathes
and lives,
but we're actually assembling light in our brains to create that thing that we're
imagining.
You know, it's just on a very, very small level and it doesn't have the freedom
and flexibility,
but we are really truly creating entities all the time in our own brain.
Yeah, I've really wondered about that with aliens, with that archetypal alien,
the iconic gray with the large black eyes and the, like that thing's real now.
Yeah.
It's a real thing.
I mean, whether or not you ever meet one or whether or not one exists in a
physical state where you could drag it in front of the National Enquirer
photographers and get some good shots of it.
It's a, it's a real thing.
And what I mean by it's a real thing is if you do mushrooms, you'll fucking see
them.
You'll, you will see them.
And do, are you seeing them because you did mushrooms and you're hallucinating
or are you seeing them because we've created this archetype that plugs into the
imagination,
easily and connects you to this thing, this, this imaginary world or this world
that, see, I don't even like the word imaginary because like every time I've
done a psychedelic,
I don't, I don't like that word imaginary because to me it seems like it's some
sort of a frequency that you're tuning into where a real world exists that you
can't bring back anything physical from.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And I feel like it's entirely possible that what we think of as these, these
like gray aliens,
they're like a, almost like a frequency of the universe that you can tune into
whether you're on psychedelics or whether you're dreaming,
which is of course your brain producing its own psychedelics.
Your brain produces dimethyltryptamine while you're sleeping.
So these, these things that we, we think of as being like all these imaginary
things like aliens or bears that talk to you or dragons.
Yeah.
I wonder what the fuck that really is all about.
It's, I think you're really onto something there.
It seems like there's this archetypal frequency, like a dragon is a being of
unlimited power and we've imagined what that would look like visually.
If that were an animal, what does it look like?
And a dragon just fits that so fucking perfect with the wings and the scales
and think smog from, you know, Tolkien.
Yeah.
And you're looking at that and like, oh yeah, that fits that thing.
You know?
And you think about a cold, dispassionate calculating machine that is dissecting
you like, then, oh yeah, alien with the big eyes and the no nuts.
That fits that thing.
You know?
No vagina either, by the way.
No, nothing.
They don't need that shit.
They're just dispatched of it.
So it's just like, we've, we create this visual representation of this, of this
archetype.
Even Zeus, like Zeus should look, look like Zeus looks like, like, we're good
at matching like the physical look of something to this concept that is kind of
very real.
Yeah.
We wouldn't trust Zeus if he had like a dark goatee.
Right.
He's got to have a fucking white beard and white hair.
He always has white hair, right?
Yeah.
Have you ever seen Zeus without white hair?
Well, I mean, he turned into all kinds of shit.
Right.
He would turn into like a swan and rape somebody and like a golden mist and
rape somebody.
He was like a mass rapist.
Zeus was constantly raping everybody.
He was the Bill Cosby of, of ancient gods.
Yeah.
He would go in as a gold, his golden reign.
He raped somebody, got pregnant.
What?
As golden reign.
Wow.
That's rude.
Yeah.
Seriously.
At least give him a heads up.
Who expects to go outside and just get raped by the rain?
Yeah.
Oh.
Good.
No, it's also a convenient excuse if you got pregnant.
You're like...
There was a sprinkle that was golden.
I think it's Zeus.
I got...
He's raping a dude there.
What's he doing that dude's dick?
Oh, he was cutting off his dad's dick.
Oh, good lord.
Cronos was the titan.
Yeah.
They were always cutting off each other's dick.
And then they would throw one.
I think he threw one into the ocean and it created some other titan or
something like that.
He cut his own dad's dick off.
Life was hard back then, man.
That was a hard world those people lived in.
Yeah, for sure.
Bunch of dick cutting assholes.
No doubt.
Yeah.
I really do wonder, like, what...
I mean, there's...
It is an empty wonder.
Like, there's no end to it.
There's no way you're ever gonna solve...
Like, no one's gonna say, "Oh, we figured out exactly what's happening when you're
tripping on mushrooms.
And here is what it is.
And this is why, you know, you see these things.
And this is what those things actually are.
And this is the part of your brain that creates them.
And they're absolutely not real."
I don't know.
Yeah, well, there's the materialist, reductionist point of view.
Like, something that Sam Harris could explain very well.
"All right, when you take psilocybin, the default mode network of your brain
gets starves of blood,
which starves it of oxygen, which down-regulates it, allowing the other parts
of your brain to come forward."
Like, "Got it."
But then take some.
And then see, like, how that feels.
What that, you know, what comes through.
Yeah, well, there's a chemical process, right?
But then there's the experience.
And the experience in itself, this is...
I mean, if you've heard me say this before, but this is kind of important.
The experience is exactly the same, whether or not it's in a physical form or
whether or not it's something that happens to you while you're tripping.
The experience is the same.
Like, if you have a trip, and during that trip, you meet a golden serpent that
explains the universe to you.
And it explains that every single person is, in fact, a representation of what
we think of as love.
Love or a god or creativity or some divine force that is pushing forward
improvement and innovation.
And that that is the reason why life today is so much different than it was 30
years ago or 30 years before that or 300 years before that.
It will constantly keep improving.
And it is the way of the universe.
And that if you have that in a psychedelic trip, it's exactly the same as if it
happens to you.
Like, if you go to a field and a dragon rises out of a marsh and confronts you
with all of the problems of your personality and all the mysteries of the past
and gives you an understanding and a blueprint for how to move forward with
your life and then goes back in the swamp, it's exactly the same as if you're
tripping.
Yeah.
Like, the experience is the same.
Yeah.
Like, whether, like, well, we found the dragon, we've located him on GPS, you
know, look on Google Earth, you can see the dragon moving through the marsh.
It's a real dragon.
It doesn't matter, like, physically if it's a real dragon.
The experience is the same.
And the impact that it has.
Yeah.
And that's the thing that, you know, we're seeing now in these scientific inquiries
is that it's not just you have this experience, like, going to a movie and you
come back out and you're relatively the same afterwards.
These are having the lasting impacts and the significant changes throughout a
lifetime that you would expect from a huge event like you just described
happening in the real world.
Because it does feel real to you.
And the information you're getting and the experiences you have, it changes you.
It's not like you put it in this dream world like, oh, that was weird.
I, you know, saw this person naked in my dream.
Well, it's different.
You know, that feels like kind of like random, like you're just shaking up some
dice and throwing it.
This stuff comes to you in a way that just leaves a significant impact.
Yeah.
And the scientific reductionist point of view is really important because we
really do need to understand what's the chemical process that's going on in the
brain when you consume, you know, whatever, peyote, whatever it is.
We need to understand.
I mean, it's, it's fascinating and it's, it's important for research and it's
important that science keeps moving forward, the greater and greater
understanding of the mind.
But you can't discount what is happening as a human, as a person, as a, as a,
as a, an entity with consciousness, what's happening during that experience.
Like you really are, you can really talk to God.
Yeah.
You really can meet him.
For sure.
I mean, you and I have met him together.
Yeah.
Or met whatever the fuck we met, whatever that is.
When you're in the DMT realm, I don't know what that is