Name: Joe Rogan Experience #812 - Russell Brand & Jim Breuer
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #812 - Russell Brand & Jim Breuer' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2016-06-22. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #812 - Russell Brand & Jim Breuer

I know you guys are banging into your coffee.
And we're live. You're jumping into swamps in English royalties' homes.
You've got to be very careful.
This is how I like to be introduced, Joe.
You've got to be very careful when you get into those sort of predicaments.
Who knows what's in there?
There's a beheading around every corner once you mess with the royal family's
private swamps.
Yeah, especially if you're doing it for some sort of psychedelic purposes.
You're trying to elevate yourself by freezing yourself in their cold, swampy
waters, freeing yourself.
If you're embarking on a journey of personal shamanism on royal territory, yeah,
your life's in your hands.
Your life could shrivel up as quickly as my sex organs did in that particular
predicament.
It's definitely an added element.
Yeah, it is.
You have to consider it.
It's not a place to go for pride.
But as soon as I'm sort of submerged in it, that's what, like, you know,
it's because even though it is just, in this case, just an example of me, a man
simply jumping in a cold lake.
And I do have a tendency to over-poeticise the mundane experiences of my
everyday life.
But why not?
What else are we going to do while we're here?
It did make me think we are living on narrow lines, narrow train tracks of
existence,
never to have heard myself go, oh, an animal noise, oh, I'm capable of that.
So it's sort of almost like an anti-orgasm, like a negative orgasm.
See, if you repeat, if you would, before what you said before you got on camera,
how it represents the subconscious and that going into the murky depths.
I thought you'd like that, mate.
Yeah.
What it is, is in fairy stories, myths and religion,
personally, if you're not into him already, I reckon you'd well love,
is an American scholar called Joseph Campbell, who is a cultural mythologist.
And he studied various religions and folktales and found corollaries and
comparisons and consistencies
and sort of said that where there are consistencies, there's truth.
If there's some Icelandic myth and it's telling basically the same story as
some African story
or some Native American story or some daft Celtic folktale,
why are human beings dislocated all over the world, coming up with the same
stories,
coming up with the same experiences?
Well, often in these stories, the forest is used as the unconscious.
Not only is the forest represents the unconscious, often in mythology,
and, you know, when a character has to go into the woods,
that means you've got to go into yourself, you're going to have to go into new
territory.
And also under the water, similarly, also represents unconsciousness.
And what's interesting about it all, Joe, is, like, not only ancient mythologies
and old stories,
but also personal dreams.
If you yourself have a dream, like, this is where the work of Joseph Campbell,
in its sex with the work of Carl Jung, that dude,
he, like, he noticed that people in their personal myths,
Joseph Campbell said, dreams are private myths, myths are public dreams.
In people's personal dreams, they come up with images, archetypes, and stories
that can also be found in fairy tales.
You know, just someone asleep goes, oh, I was just walking,
and I went into the woods, and I met this old woman in the woods,
and she told me that everything was going to be okay.
And then she put up a hood, and when she took her hood down again,
it was my mother's face.
It's like people were inventing their own myth.
Because, of course, all culture is created by consciousness.
So on some level, it's in us.
It's in us individually.
Yeah, Joseph Campbell's work is amazing.
And when you do look at all the different stories
and how they coincide and how many similarities they share,
it is really interesting to see what are people trying to accomplish
with these archetypes?
Like, what are they trying to sort out?
Because it seems like that has to be some things.
Lessons passed down to children.
Lessons passed down to other people
so they can learn things without having to experience the woods themselves.
But then there's also some sort of archetypes
that they're sort of defining the reality around them
in a very similar way all over the world.
I suppose what I reckon, Joe, is the more diverse our culture...
Like, you know, it's weird, isn't it?
Because we're experiencing on one level globalisation and homogenisation
where culture through corporatism is coming uniform throughout the world.
But also there are many, many, many disparate experiences.
But on some level, as human beings,
if we're anatomically as similar as we are,
perhaps it's safe to assume that we're psychologically comparably similar.
Like, you know, even though you and I are sort of different body types
or whatever and look sort of at a glance kind of different.
We're both ultimately got the same organs.
We're running in pretty much the same way.
Or perhaps we have the same psychological palette.
So throughout the world, people are...
Everyone's having a very similar experience of being human.
The anxiety of not being good enough.
The fear of death.
Constantly looking for something in the outside world
that's going to solve the problems,
that's going to answer your questions.
And, like, in a lot of these ancient texts
that I've mostly got at through Joseph Campbell
or, you know, Hinduism for beginners,
that's normally my entry point.
I, like you, am an autodidact, self-taught person.
That's one of the things I like about your podcast
is that you can hear the artist is a person educating themselves
and continuing to educate themselves through life.
Well, like, one of the things that I picked up in that
is, like, in them very, very ancient texts,
there are people that...
The same way as in our, like, in our time
that's defined by science and technology,
there were times where people define themselves
through meditation and experiences in consciousness.
Like, those people that wrote, say, the Upanishads,
whoever the hell they were,
these rishis, these ancient Indian yogis
that went into deep, deep meditative states
and came back with mantras and truths,
those people are as diligent and as fastidious
as a scientist in a laboratory that comes back and goes,
well, look, we've, you know, we've broke down,
you know, Watson and Crick breaking down the DNA.
They come back and go, this is what it is to be a human.
You are going to die.
You need to get, you need to come to terms
with the relationship between your contrary self
and your material self.
That's the, for me, that's the stuff, like,
that's the conversation that I'm into
and that's why whenever I find it,
whether it come from Joseph Campbell or Carl Jung
or even checking out this podcast,
like, look, the stuff Hancock, Graham Hancock's into,
that always, it presses something deep in me.
That's what I'm always looking for, you know, Joe.
There are moments where you think
that shudder you get,
ooh, there's truth in there, you know.
Yeah, well, those paths that you're talking about,
those paths that are carved in,
that we sort of normalize all the experiences
that we have so they look totally,
totally sane.
If you just stray off those paths
and jump into that lake
and freeze your dick off
and get out and you just,
why did I do that?
You broke your little chain,
the little chain of programming
that's going on in your brain.
You did something completely unusual.
And sometimes just little things like that,
little deviations off of that path
will take you into a completely different place.
Are you still doing that kind of thing
in your life now?
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, all the time.
Like, whether it's the cryo chambers
or the isolation tanks
or the experiences,
what, are you into ayahuasca and DMT?
I haven't done ayahuasca,
but I've done a lot of DMT.
What, yeah, I'm very interested in that.
The DMT is the more potent,
shorter-lasting form, obviously.
I've read accounts on it.
I've never done it.
Oh!
I'm in recovery.
Allegedly, things can be arranged
if you're in recovery.
The problem with recovery is,
you know,
if you want to maintain
complete and total sobriety,
the only way to
allegedly have that experience,
and apparently it is possible,
is through kundalini.
But according to people
I know that have done both,
they've done DMT
and they've also done kundalini,
it's virtually the same thing.
Oh my God,
that's pretty amazing.
Yeah, you just have to
be completely dedicated
to the kundalini practice
and you have to go
to a very specific state
that's achievable
once you have some mastery
over the meditation
and the yoga principles.
I've done a fair bit
of that kundalini.
I got bang into it.
In fact, this tattoo
on my forefinger here
is an illustration
by Carl Jung
of the kundalini serpent,
the energy that rises up,
your animal energy
can become the coronated serpent.
Bloody earth
getting that tattoo done
and I woke up
in the middle of the night
severely regretting it.
Ow, my finger!
Why did I do that?
It's mostly because
Mark Mahoney,
the LA tattooist,
I became somewhat
besotted with him
because he was kind of
like some sort of
living skeleton Elvis.
He was so charming
and enchanting
that I kept getting myself
tattooed just so
I could suss him out.
He appeared briefly
in that film
Black Mask,
that Johnny Depp film,
I don't know if you saw it.
I didn't see that.
Whitey, whatever his name was.
Whitey Bulger.
That movie.
Yeah, he has a cameo
in the beginning of that.
He's sort of got a blue
rins of his hair.
He's a sort of
a fascinating guy
and a literal artist,
a proper tattoo artist.
He's tattooed
like gangster crime overlords,
presidents,
everybody.
He's done sort of
like a lot of people
but he's got a very easy way
and a sort of
gentle kindness.
He told me this story once.
God, I wonder
if you'd mind me
repeating this
in the media world.
When he used to be
an intravenous junkie,
he was in New York City
and he was like
wandering along
on the way to a party
and he saw a homeless fella
doing paintings
and he sort of thought,
oh man,
I'll get those paintings
and he bought these paintings
off this homeless guy
and then he went
onto this party
and then he went
and shot up in the bathroom
and then he heard
the flurry of excitement
at this New York party
because Andy Warhol,
the great Andy Warhol
was arriving at the party
and Warhol came upstairs
and he said he could hear
like the acolytes
around Warhol
and he said he's just
banged up
and he's getting a hit
and his eyes are rolling
and he's like feeling fantastic
and he hears Warhol
outside the room
and Mark Mahoney
had left some of his paintings
out there
along with the works
of that homeless guy
and he hears Warhol
and he goes,
oh my God,
that's amazing.
Like looking at this stuff
and he goes,
wow, look at me,
I'm the coolest guy in the world
says Mark Mahoney.
I'm laying here
banging up smack
in a bathroom
Warhol's out there
digging my work
and of course
when he went out
it was the homeless guy stuff
that Warhol was into.
Yeah, he's a man
with an anecdote or two.
I love that guy.
Your coffee's good, mate.
I'm buzzing my tits off
and I've only been here
five seconds
and I don't even know
what I'm saying.
That's amazing.
It's amazing
that it's that powerful for you.
This is it
because I'm drug free
for 13 years, Joe.
Oh, so as I was saying,
Kundalini,
I've done a lot of that Kundalini.
Did it ever take you
to a crazy place?
Yeah.
Psychedelic state?
I did when I was
using drugs
I did psychedelics
and I've never had
that kind of like
oh my God
because I loved drugs.
But you never had
a breakthrough moment
on psychedelics?
Yeah, I had that realization
that what I considered
to be myself
was a construction
and it wasn't real.
But my memories
and my perception
and my desires
are just a conglomeration
of biochemical impulses
that I'm merely
a conduit
of pure consciousness.
Now that's too heavy
to deal with
when you're bloody 16.
All my mates
were just doing it at school
and like, you know,
carrying on.
Like me,
I need to do
psychedelics
in a hospital
with a perso