Name: Joe Rogan Experience #813 - Shane Dorian
Uploaded: 2016-06-23T04:07:13.000Z
Description: Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #813 - Shane Dorian' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2016-06-23. Transcript available. Shane Dorian is a big wave surfer and bowhunter.

Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #813 - Shane Dorian' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2016-06-23. Transcript available. Shane Dorian is a big wave surfer and bowhunter.

Joe Rogan Experience #813 - Shane Dorian

This is the first time Jamie's ever had a false start. He's getting tricky.
That's real? That's real. We're live. Shane Dorian, how are you, brother?
I'm doing great, thanks.
Thanks for doing this, man. I really appreciate it.
Yeah, no problem. I'm happy to be here. Thanks for having me.
My pleasure. You know, you come highly recommended by my friend Ben O'Brien,
who's an awesome dude.
And apparently you guys had a great time in New Zealand bow hunting.
Yeah, I love Ben. He's very Texas.
Yeah, we had a really good old time down there.
You know, I'd never been to New Zealand for hunting before. I'd been there for
surfing.
So it was really cool to go and see different parts of the country and do some
hunting out there, do some backcountry stuff.
Surfing there, is it as dangerous as surfing in Australia as far as like sharks?
No, not as dangerous, I'd say. You know, there are sharks there. It's pretty
close to Australia. It's only like a one-hour flight.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Same sharks are over there. But I don't know. I don't really think of sharks as
much.
There's no way. You have a total radical fear of sharks on them.
Fuck yeah.
It's awful.
They're scary, scary creatures, man.
I'm fucking horrified. How close have you come to them?
You should be. You should be.
I'm very close. Yeah. I got bumped off my board when I was a kid.
Oh no.
Surfing in a place, you know, sort of near my house. But the water was, the
sand was black.
See, like I really couldn't, the water's actually clear, but the sand was black.
So it bumped me, and I never really got to see what it was, but I'm pretty sure
it was a shark.
And there's a lot of sharks in Hawaii. A lot of sharks, wherever the waves are
good, it seems like there's a lot of sharks, man.
Yeah. That's not a coincidence, is it?
I don't know, man. They're just everywhere.
Yeah.
The crazy is, you know, it's funny about sharks is I was, there's, you know,
growing up, I always thought, you know, the only real sharks I had to worry
about were, you know, great whites.
And, you know, I was born and raised in Hawaii. That's where I grew up surfing.
And, you know, I always thought like great white sharks are always in like
really cold places.
I don't really have to worry around home. And they've been finding a ton of
great white sharks around, you know, where I live now.
They're all over Hawaii now. And great white sharks are actually warm-blooded.
So they can actually, they can totally adjust their, their, I guess, I guess
their body temperature to be able to, to totally survive and thrive in warm
water as well as cold.
So they just go wherever the hell they want.
Yeah.
Every time I go to Hawaii, whenever I turn on the news, the local news, some
dude got bit.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
How often does it happen there?
Pretty often. There's a lot of sharks. And, you know, what's funny is it never
used to happen when I was a kid. It wasn't even really a thought for me.
I mean, I was scared of sharks and all that stuff, but people didn't really get,
start getting chomped until I was a little bit older.
In the last, in the last 10 years, there's been tons and tons of shark attacks
in Hawaii.
A friend, a friend of mine, Bethany Hamilton, she's a really, really talented
surfer. She got bit. She got her arm chomped right off her body.
Oh, that girl, that really young girl.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah. And Kauai, surfing perfect waves out with her friend and shark came up
and just ripped her arm right off her body.
How gangster is she that she just gets right back on the board?
And she survived. She's badass. She's super badass. She actually surfed some of
the biggest waves all year last year.
She got towed into a place called Jaws on Maui and surfing 50-foot waves with
one arm, you know, getting pounded by giant waves.
And she paddles into some huge waves with one arm.
Wow.
Yeah. And gets held underwater with one arm.
That's incredible.
Imagine getting held under from a giant wave underwater, you know, like trying
to, you know, just, I mean, I know people who are terrified of surfing big
waves with two arms.
And, you know, they're underwater wanting a breath and she's under there with
one arm.
Imagine having like your arm tied to your side and having to try and swim to
the surface in big waves. It's pretty scary.
Now, when you get hit by a big wave like that and you get sucked under, how
long are you under normally for?
Usually a pretty, pretty short amount of time, but it really varies.
You know, the worst thing about surfing really big waves and we've had a lot of
people die surfing big waves and it is super dangerous.
The thing that kills people is getting held under for two waves.
So if you fall on a wave, like if you take off on a wave and you fall and you're
underwater for a super long time, and this has happened to me a couple
different times, you're underwater really far.
And then you start, you know, the wave holds you under and is rolling you along
the reef towards the shore and you're underwater near the bottom or at the
bottom.
And then the waves just starts to dissipate and lose a little bit of power.
She can finally start swimming up.
And then the next wave is, meanwhile, it's on its way and you're swimming up,
swimming up and the wave is coming at you and you don't get a breath and the
wave takes you straight back down.
And that's how people die.
Yeah, it's scary shit.
How long have you been held under for?
About a minute and 10 seconds.
It's a long time.
The only reason I know that is because I had a terrible wipeout at a big wave
place in Northern California called Mavericks.
It was my first trip ever there and I was having this awesome trip.
It's like, you know, it's one of the best big waves in the world.
I always wanted to go there, but I was pretty scared of it and I ended up going
there and having a, the first day I was there was super good.
I had a, I had a blast.
I didn't fall once.
I had to just, I had like a dream session, caught all these big waves, thought
I was killing it.
Next day, it just absolutely smashed me.
I took off on a wave, ate shit down the face, got sucked over the falls, held
under forever on the reef.
And I was swimming towards the surface and the next wave was like a 50 foot
face, broke right on top of me, shoved me straight back down to the reef.
And what, like, as I was swimming up to try and get a breath, I was doing those
involuntary, you know, when you're going like that.
And I was like, shit, I got to get a breath now.
And then all of a sudden I was at the bottom and yeah, it was really scary, but
the scariest, scariest time of my life.
And, and, and, um, meanwhile, there was a woman on a boat and she was filming
the whole ordeal.
My board was like, they call it tombstoning, where you can only see half your
board and then you're, and there's a leash, right?
And you're connected to the bottom and the board was like this, you know, you
can only see half the, half the board for like, and the next wave passed me by.
And my board was still like that for over a minute.
It was like a minute and 10 seconds that weighed way too long.
Wow.
That's, it's hard to hold your breath for a minute, just doing nothing.
Yeah, it is.
Holding your breath for a minute while you're struggling and also your
adrenaline's kicking in, you're freaking out.
Yeah.
And you're realizing that you, you got to get some air soon.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
And, and, and that's when, you know, I mean, that's the, the whole thing is, is,
uh, you know, learning about breath hold, the, the whole thing that speeds up
your, your, your, your breath hold is, is, uh, or I, I, I should say shortening
your breath hold is panicking.
Yeah.
You know, once you, if you're able to stay, stay calm and know that you're
going to be okay, you know, you don't use up your breath very, very fast.
But if you start to panic, it's like, it's like flooring the gas and it just
speeds up the whole thing.
And, um, so panicking is the last thing that you want to do.
But when you're really terrified, that's what happens to everybody.
There's a big connection between jujitsu and surfing.
A lot of people that I know that love jujitsu also love surfing and they do it
all the time.
Same.
And, um, that breath thing is, uh, something that comes into play in both
situations.
Yeah.
Because if you're in a bad position, uh, like if someone's choking you or
something like that, you can relax and stay calm and kind of barely get out of
things.
Whereas if you freak out and you start, you start hyperventilating or panicking,
you just, you just have to tap.
You run out of gas, you run out of air, and then the choke sinks in deeper.
And some people are just really good at surfing.
And for some reason that like Hicks and Gracie is a famous example.
He's really good at yoga, which is also really big for controlling your breath
and staying calm and regulating your heart rate.
And then he's also, you know, obviously a master at jujitsu, but he loves
surfing.
And, uh, I think in some way those things are kind of connected that you have
to sort of maintain some sort of control over your physical body.
Yeah, for sure.
And, you know, and, you know, I think, um, you know, knowing, knowing how long
you can hold your breath, um, especially under pressure, especially with a high
heart rate is the key.
Um, you know, I, I, I did a breath holding course.
It was like a, it was actually, uh, specifically tailored to surviving big
waves.
Uh, this course I did was four days long.
And the first couple of days, they just, they just kind of taught us the
science behind a breath hold, you know, and how to get your breath hold up.
And then they basically, uh, worked our, our way up to our highest static hold.
And then from there, we had to hold our breath for a quarter of that time under
stress.
Hmm.
So when you take a breath hold course, like what are they teaching?
Uh, just the science of, you know, behind how, how some people can hold their
breath for a long time and some people can't.
And, you know, the difference between the, it's, it's, it's basically
psychological.
It's all in your mind.
Really?
Um, oh yeah, it definitely is.
I mean, if you think you can hold your breath for, like if right now you tried
to hold your breath for, and you could only make it a minute.
For sure.
You can hold your breath for three, a hundred percent.
It's all in your mind.
Like if you believe that you're going to be fine, that just.
You know, your body tells you that you need to breathe.
Um, like for that course, I think the first day I tried to hold my breath, um,
and I'm in relatively good shape and I never, ever practice holding my breath
at all.
But, you know, I have, you know, pretty good lung capacity because I, I was
training all the time, especially at that time.
Um, the longest I could hold my breath the first day was like two minutes and
15 seconds or something like that.
And then by day, the end of day three, I was holding it for five minutes and 34
seconds.
Whoa.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
So it's just techniques and understanding.
Yeah, it's all technique.
What is like the world record?
Wasn't it, wasn't that fucking magician guy?
Didn't he break the world record?
He did like 17 minutes or something like that.
But didn't he do something weird where he sucked in pure oxygen or some
cheating bullshit?
It's night and day.
Yeah, you can't do that.
I, I, I think it gives you like, um, from, from what I, I think that's about
twice as long as, as like a world record holder can actually hold their breath.
Oh.
Um, I think he was packing oxygen.
It's totally different.
He's breathing up with pure oxygen for like a long time.
Oh.
It totally, you know, it's basically like, it like doubles your breath hold.
Yeah, there it goes.
17 minutes and 4.4 seconds.
It's badass.
It's pretty, pretty incredible even with the oxygen.
Yeah.
But yeah, you know, I mean, no matter how, how, how you slice it, that's a long
ass time to not breathe.
So he held the record for 