Name: Joe Rogan Experience #832 - Vinny Shoreman
Uploaded: 2016-08-11T02:43:27.000Z
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #832 - Vinny Shoreman' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2016-08-11. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #832 - Vinny Shoreman

we're live that always sounds so fake it's always hard to get these things
started it's always hard
to just just start talking not hard but well i'm learning from you that the way
you define things
in your own mind yep uh it's all about the language yeah it's all about the
language you use yeah the
way you define things can oftentimes shape exactly how those things manifest
themselves in real life
right yeah you say more about yourself than what you actually know that's where
mind coaching comes
in you say more about yourself yeah well you give away a lot sometimes it doesn't
make sense they're
talking about something and they're saying that they're really positive about
something and then
you think well that doesn't match up so it's a bit like um a barking pig pigs
don't bark so you just
doesn't make sense you know that's how i define it anyway probably think about
a barking pig that one
i had to throw through the filter i'm like huh what the fuck is she talking
about mushroom days i'm
afraid yeah it's uh there's a very interesting thing we just did we just did
something called timeline
therapy yeah that you uh were telling me about that joe shilling told me about
ian mccall got really
interested in it um and what you what you what if for folks who've never heard
of vinny before
vinny's been on the podcast before vinny's a mental coach and a hypnotist and
uh before our first session
the last time you came on the podcast i was like i don't know about all this
hypnotist stuff maybe just
a bunch of crazy people and people talk to them and i mean you for sure have
seen those televangelists
that put their hands on people and they go into spasms and they fall down on
the floor and they
claim to be curative illnesses yeah that's that's um hysteria isn't it what is
that it's bollocks
it's bollocks it's bullshitting it but is it or is it something going on with
some of those people
it is a hypnotic state doesn't mean that it's it's a positive one but it is a
hypnotic state they get
this anyone that does uh i've been on a couple of podcasts now i went on uh two
with ian mccall the
dash radio and i went on his uh story time with uncle creepy and the first
thing out of their interview
is set obviously because you did hypnosis oh we're gonna you know i can't be
hypnotized well fine that's
that's all right you know what i mean people love to say that don't they though
i don't i can't be
hypnotized bro can't get me bro well i don't care fine i mean i think we just
well we may have
discussed this the last time but we may not have i think stand-up comedy is hypnosis
yes you know what
everything is these are you not you how do you know you're not a hypnotic state
listening to you
how do you get a hypnotic state not listen to music tv right having a bath
shower rituals whatever so do
you think that the term hypnotic is problematic because people think that it
takes away control
from you and it puts you into this netherworld or something like that well it
can do but all hypnosis
is self-hypnosis so you do it yourself i only guide it i'm only a postman of
information as my
first teacher said keith mayer um who works for liverpool football club great
guy uh he said that
we're only posting information so we just guide the way and show the person
which way to go you know
yeah i don't do it for that i said last time i don't do it for all that look at
him eating an onion
you know i don't like that i mean it's fine if you want to go to a show and you
want to get involved in
that and hey great you want to have sex with the chair or whatever that's okay
for me yeah i don't i
don't do it for that what do you do it for um i do it because i like people
succeeding i know it sounds
cliche and very hippie but i love it i like people doing well i like i like it
six and some sort of
weird noble side of me really i think some people conquer fear when people
conquer something i think
there's nothing better than that well i think one of the things that we talked
about when we were doing
the timeline i was talking about some of my experiences when i was younger that
have kind of like clung to me
unfortunately or fortunately and and you know you were you were talking about
your own and i think that
when you've had some bad experiences in your life and when you've had uh some
things in your mind that
stand out as uh very memorable moments and points in your life those things can
kind of uh they they
don't just define you but that also can set you up for the future like how you
think about other people
or how you think about other things yeah it shapes your life completely yeah
and having these bad
moments and realizing what they were and how they defined you now gives you
motivation to help other
people get over their bad moments yeah it's just with timeline therapy which is
devised by um tad james and
a very very successful guy a tad james company my teacher worked for them
directly colin mckay so i'm a
direct descendant really of that the the technique is amazing i mean i love it
and i said to you
earlier i believe everyone in the world should do it that's not a sales pitch
by the way that's just my
opinion you know i just think it's fabulous you know people have things going
on like let's say you've got an
iphone 6 or an iphone or whatever if you don't you know you the apps keep
playing over and over again
if they're still going on they're going to take some sort of toll on you when
you shut them down and
think well actually shuts it down you save your battery your memory and it
shapes your life you
know what i've been saying that for a while it turns out it doesn't somebody
just uh some dude just
i've been fooled me yeah it's not like a computer where a computer is
constantly has these things running
in the background and it's using up resources and battery power apparently with
phones it does not do
that well like a defragmentation you're on all computers and you defrag it
right that then instead
so that's my app thing gone now wasn't it i was enjoying that i did too i used
to use that as an
example but some some uh dude who actually knows what he's talking about
corrected me we'll just
ignore him then no we have we cannot we must plow forward and accept our defeat
that's it no yeah
that's it no it's ruined yeah um but i think that you know your um your own
personal experiences is
it's one of the reasons why you've become a coach not just a mind coach but a
martial arts coach and
that these experiences of negative moments in your life where you've overcome
them and you realize that
i can help someone else who is in that sort of same situation yeah of course it's
yeah it's just like
it's just it's nice to just say it's it's not that important you know people
believe that these
sometimes i mean god there is problems that are massive you know i'm not gonna
lie in some things
i can't solve you know i'm not i'm not moses right but um there is there is
things that you know if
you can help somebody out and they can get rid of it or change the way they
think i.e joe shilling
when he did time my therapy his relationship with his dad was miles better
before he passed away
isn't that pretty powerful yeah joe talked about it on the podcast he talked
about it just it's
completely changed his whole perception of his relationship with his dad who
his dad was in his
life and just he let it all go yeah it just helped him tremendously yeah what
more can you say than
that really as a coach i mean ian mccall had said you know i know they didn't
get his fight with uh
justin scoggins and that because of the weight whatever and ian was saying that
his life has
changed since doing timeline therapy and doing the you know work with me not
just timeline therapy and
not just hypnosis with my coaching in general because it's multifaceted really
and um he said his life's
changed he he's a different person people have noticed you know so that's for
me it's great news
i think sometimes it just takes the realization of what's been with you that
once you realize what
it is then you have it in your mind and then you can kind of look at it for
what it really is instead
of this like thing that's playing in the background that you can't quite
identify or you or you know it
exists but you ignore it and you just you don't you don't ever get over it yeah
he sees he's interesting
i had a client the other week called joy she's 80 years of age and she was
going to a wedding in
spain for her grandson and she was beside herself she was terrified you know
and we did just a few
things you know little things to make her consider different ways of looking at
the anxiety she was
getting because anxiety is basically a message through your unconscious mind is
to focus on what you want
because if you're in an anxious state you're focusing on what you don't want
right here's
different levels of it of course which she was focusing on what may go wrong
instead of saying
all this we're going to a wedding it's a celebration of two people's matrimony
whatever and it's going
to be nice and she wasn't focused on that she was focused on something else i
changed that and like
she was happy and she went to the wedding and it's you know it's good i mean
she's 80 years of age
she may not be going to loads of weddings let's be honest right but if for me
the job itself it what can
you say about that it's it's it transforms people you know and i i adore it no
i know you do i really
you really it it comes out of you when you do it you really do love it um it
seems to me that
human beings don't really live long enough to figure out what this is you know
i think that
is one of the major problems that a lot of us have we have a certain amount of
momentum that comes from
our childhood whether it's good or bad and we follow that momentum into our
adulthood sometimes
trying to hit the break sometimes trying to correct the course and oftentimes
using things like
alcohol or drugs or gambling or anything to distract us from the pain of
whatever the instability
whatever whatever it is it's with us and then you get to be a certain age you
realize like i'm
barely figuring this thing out and i'm almost dead yeah well you know it's the
worst thing is what you
know sat in an old people's on your own piss yeah i know i wish you'd done that
yeah you don't you
definitely don't want that but you also you you i think well there's a there's
a big thing that people
always talk about like living in the moment it is a very it's a very difficult
thing to do for some
strange reason yeah of course it is yeah because you you know you you're
worried about tomorrow aren't
you are you worried about later on or you're worried about yesterday or you're
worried about yesterday
or you're worried about last year indeed and that's that's where you know i'm
not going to pretend to
walk in a cloud you know and and try and come in with all these long like
statements and write these
things you know right because i think it's no one does well that's a dalai lama
doesn't but that's a problem
with religion right with religion that one of the bigger issues is that the
people that are
sort of proselytizing or the people that are promoting it they're in some ways
many of them
especially priests and things along those lines which is why it's so
disappointing when you hear
about child sex abuse amongst priests they're pretending to be something holy
and special and above
you which is why they can bestow this knowledge upon you while they can they're
talking directly from
god would no we're all peasants in this weird exchange yeah they're not conduits
are they right
they're not you know and i think i think you get delusions of grandeur i think
a lot of people do you
know and i've met you know i've met you and i'm a fan of yours and i really
enjoy the i think i like i
said before you've had wim hoff who i love you know russell brand brilliant you
know and dr ronda patrick
and joe and ian and you know that you know the the com