Name: Joe Rogan Experience #847 - Dan Carlin
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #847 - Dan Carlin' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2016-09-16. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #847 - Dan Carlin

Three, two, one. Yes, Dan Carlin, we're live. What's up, buddy?
Back again.
Always a pleasure, my friend.
Deja vu all the time.
You, to me, are like this guy that's working on this never-ending project that
occasionally you release these chunks of these never-ending projects.
But I look at your podcast as like this great work, this long, never-ending,
like dramatic interpretation of history that's so exciting and interesting.
But when you, like we were talking before the podcast about podcasting, but I
don't think of what you do as anything remotely like what I do.
Like he was like, you do so many podcasts.
I'm like, yeah, but there's nothing to it.
You start it, you start talking, and that's it.
You have like preparation and research, and you know, when you're doing
hardcore history, that's like a great work.
Like you're doing like this thing that's evergreen that's going to be passed
down forever and bit-torrented the fuck out of.
Daniele Bolelli had a great line to me because, you know, he does a history
podcast now too, and he started off by doing just a talk one like my common
sense kind of is.
And he said the difference with the history one is you actually have to, it has
to make sense when you're done.
I mean the facts, so that's a huge, I mean I sit there like forever and I end
up in my, my wife's never heard it, by the way.
And my kids don't understand why anybody would want to hear me talk.
Right.
And you know, so, so, but when I come out of the studio and you know, it's like
sweat pouring off me and I'm trying to, and then we'll look at it and it doesn't,
you'll listen and you'll hear a mistake and you'll have to repair the mistake.
And you know, when you're just doing a, uh, when I'm talking on the political
podcast and we make a mistake, I'll say afterwards on Twitter, oh, I got that
wrong.
On the history one, like you said, it's forever.
And so you really have to dot your I's and cross your T's and all that kind of
stuff.
It makes it a lot harder.
Yeah, when you're doing common sense, you're essentially just sort of ranting
about your thoughts on what's going on.
That's a pretty good description, yeah.
Yeah, when you do those and you release them and you find out you made an error,
that is a fucking pain in the ass, right?
I, I, I, I, I recently blamed one on concussions or brain damage or something
like that.
So yeah.
In reference to Hillary Clinton?
No, I, no, I said, uh, I was talking about that stuff they throw out of
airplanes to jam radars and I called it flash.
And of course it's chaff and all, of course, 10,000 military people go, you
know, it's chaff.
And I go, of course I know it's chaff.
I wouldn't have brought it up.
It's brain damage.
Don't make fun of people who are injured, you know?
So, but on the history show, you have to go, okay, I've got to go recut that,
refix it.
I do a lot more editing than I used to.
Yeah.
That's, um, yeah, it's, you're, you're, like I said, like you have a podcast,
but then you also have this thing, the hardcore history.
The two podcasts are killing me, by the way.
I'm going to, at some point, I'm going to have to just do like one podcast a
year.
You know, I just, I am the slowest podcaster in the world.
I have one claim to fame, number one in time it takes to get a new show out.
But it's not the same.
See, that's the problem with calling your thing a podcast.
It's an audio show.
It is at this point.
Yeah.
Evolved into that unintentionally.
Well, you have a podcast too.
I do.
Yeah.
That's getting longer and longer between shows too.
Well, it's got to be like, when I listened to some of your podcasts, like the
one on Martin Luther and what was the name of that one?
The, um.
Prophets of Doom.
Prophets of Doom.
Yeah.
That one, you're like, I learned about Lutherism from you.
Like, I didn't, I didn't know the history.
Let's hope we got it right, Joe.
Let's.
But I think that's happening with a lot of people.
They're like learning about certain aspects of history from you and from your
stuff.
So, it's a lot of responsibility.
It is a lot of responsibility.
So, it makes sense that you're spending this much time on them as well.
I think what happens is, I think, you know, uh, originally, if you recall, the,
the shows, if you go listen to the old shows, they don't sound like the newer
ones.
It's because I thought I was just going to talk about funky stuff in history.
Right.
And then people wrote and go, I don't really know the story.
Can you tell more of the story?
And so, you inadvertently start telling the story and then you go, wait a
minute, I'm not qualified to tell the story.
And so, it's just, yeah, it's, it's, it's an interesting, um, it's an
interesting, the way it's evolved.
And it's also interesting.
I was, you know, I warn people when they go and buy the old shows.
I said, you know, the old shows aren't going to sound quite the same because
they were good by 2007 podcasting standards.
But, you know, the standards of what we all do are so much higher than when we
started doing them.
You know, if you grade this on a curve, go to iTunes and look at the stuff that's
up there with you and compare it to the stuff that was up there 10 years ago.
I was competing with kids in dorm rooms 10 years ago.
Now, we're competing with NPR and, I mean, all the pro outfits.
Yeah, it is the sound quality for sure.
But also, like, podcast, you get better at doing it.
You know, you get better at the flow of the conversation.
You get better at, like, being in tune with the person that you're talking to
or at least attempting to.
Like, that's something, for people that are listening, when you try to consider,
like, how a podcast is made, one of the things that we're doing is we're trying
to express ourselves, but we're also trying to monitor ourselves at the same
time.
Make sure you're not too overbearing or you're not talking too much.
Or sometimes you have a point and you just, oh, my God, I've got to make this
point.
But the other person is talking.
You don't know when to jump in.
But you also have to listen to the person who's talking.
So then you forget your point and you're like, fuck.
You know, it's a weird juggling act because we're both doing it sort of freeballing.
We're both ad-libbing, doing it live.
You know what's happening to me now?
I'm ashamed to say it, but I'm starting to get that thing.
I'm 50 now.
I turn to, and I'm starting to get that, you forget the name or you forget, you
know, I compare it to a computer.
I have more stuff in my computer, but the computer is slower than it used to be.
And so I'll have this point where I'll be talking and everything will be going
good.
And then all of a sudden there'll be this really long pause when I can't think
of what, and that's when we have to just, you know, if there is a Ben, he has
to cut out and just, you know, sandwich the two pieces together while I try to
remember the name of the person.
I wanted to say, or, so I'm getting to the point now where I'm not sure I could
go live anymore without these really long pauses where I forget what I was
going to say, or I forget the point I was making or the tangent I was on.
So 10 years from now, this is going to be a very interesting podcast.
Well, it's, it's also, it deals with the amount of hard drive space you have.
I think if you keep remembering things, like there's things that I used to know
so well just 10, 15 years ago that I just have pushed aside because I haven't
brought it up in a long time.
I haven't gone into that folder in my mind in a long time.
They're in the cobwebs now.
Yeah.
And if I went to try to pull it out now, it's like, no, no, no, we're, we're,
our space on the warehouse floor is filled, bro.
There's no room for that.
And the bus speed isn't what it used to be.
Yeah.
The bus speed is not what it used to be.
But I try to crank that up with this stuff.
I know.
I don't rub it in.
You're so much healthier than I am.
Well, this is coffee.
This is not healthy.
I mean, it's kind of healthy, but it's really just speed.
Where I come from, coffee is health food.
What, Oregon?
Yeah, Oregon.
Oregon's healthy as fuck, man.
Yeah, well, there's a couple people that aren't so healthy in Oregon.
And you're in that mix?
I'm leading the charge.
Do you like living up there in the Pacific Northwest?
You know, I'm from here and coming back home is weird because I told my wife
recently, my kids are Oregonians and I haven't gotten used to that fact.
It just seems weird to me.
And I told her, I still feel like this Angeleno up in Oregon, but I've been
there 20 years.
I don't know when you start feeling.
I mean, you're from the East Coast originally.
Do you feel like you're an Angeleno or do you still think of yourself as a
transplant?
I've been here for 22 years.
As long as I've been in Oregon.
Yeah, so I've been here forever.
So you feel like this is home?
Yeah, this is where I live.
I've lived here more than I've lived anywhere in my life.
When you go home, when you go back to where you were from, does it feel like
coming home or does it feel foreign?
It feels weird.
It used to make me insecure.
Like I used to go like where my high school was and it would bring back the
feelings of being in high school again.
Like when I graduated from high school, I would have nightmares that I didn't
graduate and I'd have to go back.
I think that's pretty classic.
The algebra class, you forgot that you didn't drop or whatever.
Yeah, and I felt like I had to go back.
Like, oh no, I'm going to fucking have to drop out or I'm going to have to go
back to school.
Like the dread of the, and it wasn't like the school was so horrible.
It was really like the uncertainty of the future and life and the insecurity
and the, just the, the angst, the teen angst of, you know, slowly realizing
that we're not even slowly realizing, but becoming an adult and knowing that it's
just a few years away that I'm going to be completely responsible for myself,
but I'm completely lost.
You know, so there's like this unbelievable pressure that comes with going from
being a teenager to, it's really, I mean, say unbelievable pressure is nothing
to compare to be like growing up a kid in Laos, you know, or, or living in
fucking Somalia in the middle of, you know, all sorts of different crises that
are going on.
So it's really like the most privileged angst possible.
Is home reasonably the same when you go back to the old?
So, see, cause I come back here.
I told my mom, I was reading this, I was reading this book written by, uh, if
you remember, uh, uh, William F. Buckley, the famous, you know, talk like this
little, his son wrote a book about, you know, his dad getting old and, and
getting ready to pass away and whatever.
And at one point his dad, who was in Florida said he wanted to go home to die,
which I guess was Connecticut.
And he said dying in Florida was like contrary to nature.
So he wanted to go home where everything was the same.
And I thought to myself, if I went home, you know, to die home, isn't anything
like home was I drive to the places I'm from.
And it doesn't even, you know, it doesn't ring a bell anymore.
The places, if I wanted to go home to die, I'd have to have a time machine, you
know, cause everything is so different.
If every, for those who don't know, Los Angeles, like every 15 years bulldozes
itself and rebuilds itself.
And so I'm like three generations of LA bulldozing from where my time was.
And so I go on up and down these streets.
It looks like a foreign city to me now.
Also the mass exodus of people has never subsided.
A lot of them are in Oregon now.
Just so you know, I mean, we've got better restaurants and better theater and
everything because of all the Californians that go.
Really?
Yeah.
But when I first moved up there, if you had a California license plate, that
was like an invitation to have your car get keyed.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, the Californians were not popular in Colorado either.
When I went to school there, Californians were not p