Name: Joe Rogan Experience #852 - John Anthony West
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Joe Rogan Experience #852 - John Anthony West

Two, one, and we're live. Mr. West.
Mr. Rogan.
Pleasure to have you here in person. Doing it on Skype was fun and it was nice
and you are to this day the only podcast I've ever done on Skype.
Really?
Yep.
Oh, wow.
But I just, I had to talk to you. Like, if you couldn't get down here, there's
got to be a way, so it was nice to be able to do it that way, but much nicer to
see you here in person.
I'm much better to be here in person and actually what's responsible for me
being here in person is that I wouldn't actually come all this huge distance
even to be on your show, unless you paid me lots of money, of course, which you're
not prepared to do.
But because I have this conference coming up at the end of the week called CPAC,
which I'm surprised you didn't know that, conference on precession and ancient
knowledge,
which is the end of this week for those living in Southern California might
want to take a look at the website.
Yeah, tell everybody where it's, where's that and what is it about?
It's Rancho Mirage, which is a great name. It means there is no ranch, but
Rancho Mirage, which is somewhere near Palm Springs,
and it is about exactly what it says, conference on precession and ancient
knowledge, and it questions, to begin with, the whole, how shall I say, the
whole scenario,
the standard scenario about what causes precession, which is supposedly a kind
of a wobble of the earth caused by nobody knows exactly what.
And the counter theory is that it isn't that, it's that there is a dwarf star
of some sort orbiting the sun,
upsetting the balance of the celestial mechanical balance of it, and that makes
a difference.
You say, well, what's the difference? One way or another, there's precession.
It does make a difference, actually, in the big picture, because it means that
our solar system basically conforms with all of the other solar systems,
which mostly are dual in nature.
Sirius, for example, has the dwarf star that circles around it, Sirius B, that's
responsible for all sorts of measurable phenomena.
So it starts off from there, but then the ancient knowledge comes in, because
precession, and this is a big mystery,
precession seems to be a factor of virtually every ancient society,
be it sophisticated, a la China and India, South America, Mesoamerica,
or so-called primitive, a word I hate to use.
It simply means unintellectualized or not expressed in coherent Western
philosophy, for whatever that's worth.
But precession is a known fact discovered, actually, a long time ago.
You'd think by now it'd be common knowledge and everybody would teach it in
school, which is sort of a joke.
It's kind of interesting that people don't teach it, right?
I mean, it is a very bizarre thing that it's so prominent in ancient cultures
and ancient society that they literally mapped this out,
this 26,000-year cycle, this wobble of the Earth, and that we rarely talk about
it, ever.
No, because it upsets the notion that there's a knowledge of this going back to
ancient times,
presupposes that there's a very advanced observational astronomy dating at a
time when supposedly people were still living in trees.
So this is actually a big deal, hence the Conference on Precession, and the
ancient knowledge comes into it
because understanding that there is a highly sophisticated scientific
understanding that goes back not just to ancient Egypt itself,
but far thousands and thousand millennia beyond, upsets what is effectively the
reigning religion of today,
except it doesn't call itself a religion, it calls itself science, which is
based supposedly on reason.
It's not. None of those things are true, it's not based on science, and science
is not based upon reason.
Maybe we'll get time to talk about it.
Well, some science is, but archaeology in particular is very rigid in its ideas,
and a lot of it is based on the professors that have written books and that
teach these ideas,
and they don't want to let them go.
And when new knowledge is discovered that challenges those ideas, they fight it
rigorously,
even if it's knowledge like the stuff that you exposed with Dr. Ron Schock,
Robert Schock, rather,
which was the water erosion on the Sphinx, which we were talking about before
the podcast,
which is one of the best pieces of evidence, because the last time there was
rainfall,
heavy rainfall in the Nile Valley was, what was it, 9,000 B.C.?
Is that what it was?
They debate it, but anyway, it's way before the beginning of dynastic Egypt,
and then it's a question of how old or when those rains fell,
because an interesting bit of thing here that I'm now at liberty to relate
publicly.
Originally, when I first got shock over to Egypt, which is another two-hour
podcast in itself,
the history of getting shock-interested in this stuff.
And when he finally agreed, very hesitantly and very skeptically,
to come along because he had to see the evidence for himself,
and I scraped together a bit of money to bring him over,
and we got into the Sphinx enclosure.
I don't think it got in legally.
I think we bribed our way in very early in the morning.
Well, in Egypt, everything is possible.
And bribed our way in, and he walked into the Sphinx enclosure.
Actually, when we get that up on the screen, you'll see the level of the water,
or the extent of the weathering, of the water weathering.
And Schock looked at it, and everybody else walks into the Sphinx enclosure
and has this, actually, this shock of recognition in the presence of this
fabulous work of sacred architecture.
Sculpture, in fact, of sacred sculpture.
And Schock looked, but Schock is a, no, that's not, it was way back, Jamie,
right to the beginning, first slides.
And Schock, everybody else sees the Sphinx as a work of art.
Schock sees the rocks, he's a geologist.
And he, back like this, and he said, oh, wow, these rocks look like they're
hundreds of thousands of years old.
And he said, don't quote me on that.
Because that's, of course, absolute heresy, that the most spectacular sculpture
on Earth should be, I mean, tens of thousands of years.
Actually, even the 4,500 years that it's associated with do not conform with
anybody's idea of how civilization developed.
This goes back to your, of why the academic, I call it the quackademic
establishment,
is so, is so passionately defends the old paradigm the way that it does.
Because the reigning paradigm, the reigning religion today, which is not
acknowledged as religion,
is that this is, this is the Church of Progress.
And it's credo, just like the virgin birth is the credo of, of early
Christianity, or present-day Christianity,
not that they know what they're talking about.
The, the, the, the, the credo of the Church of Progress is,
A, we are the most sophisticated human beings that have ever lived on the face
of the planet,
with our hydrogen bombs, and our nerve gas, and our striped toothpaste, and our
Disneyland's.
We're the best that ever was.
And secondly, that progress, as it's called, goes in a straight line from
primitive cavemen up to ourselves.
And when it becomes self-evident, that in very, very ancient times, they had
knowledge of precession,
which is an incredible thing to, it's almost unimaginable that it happens
through careful observation.
Because the sun, I don't know if all of the audience will know what, what this
is,
so maybe it's worth talking about.
The sun, if, if you look at the spring equinox now, it's, in the last, the sun
is rising against the last,
the last bits of, of, of, of, of Pisces.
It may even be in the earliest stages of Aquarius.
And the, gradually the sun precesses, that's to say, it goes backwards around
the zodiac,
in a cycle that takes 25,000, canonically, 25,920 years to make a complete
circle.
What this means is that it actually takes 72 years, precisely, for the sun to
precess one degree.
So this is nothing.
Who's going to be sitting there for 72 years watching the track of the sun in a,
in a, in a cycle that takes 26,000 years to go around?
And observe that there's a discrepancy enough to write it down, pass that
information down.
And then why should they care?
It's somehow or another deeply connected with the civilization of that time and
with our civilization.
And you look at the numbers involved, this is another hours of conversation,
actually.
The 72 and the 73 are significant numbers in practically all of the developed
numerologically based societies.
So, in Egypt, Set, who's the bad guy, derivative, probably Satan is derived
from Set, he's the bad guy, but he's also a great god.
That is to say, the gods are not gods in any superstitious fashion.
They represent the embodiments of cosmic principles.
The objective of any esoteric doctrine, including most of the religions that
are around even today in their depraved forms, the objective of any esoteric
discipline is to free ourselves individually and collectively from our imprisonment
in matter.
So, in some sense or another, that processional cycle is very important and the
numbers are important in the myth, which again, we don't have time for, but Osiris
is the good king.
Actually, this is all very carefully expounded, very brilliantly, in fact, in
the Hamlet myth, which becomes Shakespeare's Hamlet, and then in the Lion King,
in Disney's Lion King, in the movie especially, which is really pretty
brilliant.
Anyway, Set is the good king who is beloved by his people, and Set is his
wicked brother, his evil brother, who is determined to unseat him and steal his
sister wife, Isis, while he's at it.
Anyway, Set sets a trap for Osiris, and it's set and his 72 followers.
So, 72 is this number associated with time, and the 72 to 73 is a very
significant ratio, actually, which pervades the philosophies of, as I said, of
all of the esoteric civilizations.
So, all of this stuff, instead of being the kind of, ask a quackademic, the
same guy you were talking about earlier who still thinks the six is weathered
by sand.
Ask one of those what ancient myth is about, and they say, oh, well, it's just
a fabrication written by primitive people who are trying to explain the
mysteries of the universe.
It's the other way around, the primitive people are the ones with the PhDs, and
back then, they, not only did they understand these scientific, these
astronomical, these astronomical facts, but they orchestrated their whole
civilization around those facts.
And the more, the deeper you get into this, the more miraculous the, the extent
of ancient knowledge becomes.
Now, what is the mainstream explanation when they, when they talk about the
prevalence of the number 72, and their understanding of the procession of the
equinoxes, do they address it at all?
Like, how do they, how do they sort of explain how they knew about this 26,000
year cycle?
There's a very quick answer to that, actually, for a change.
No, they just don't explain.
They don't.
They just ignore it.
Is it sort of like the Parthenon, the Acropolis?
You know, which one?
The Acropolis is the building, and the Parthenon is the structure, right?
Is that what it is?
No, both are temples.
Both are buildings.
But what is the, uh, what's the, the, the base?
The base is the one that they don't explain, right?
They just go, well, we don't really exactly, that's the gigantic, enormous base,
the huge stones that the Acropolis is built on, right?
No, I don't know.
Which one is the Acropolis?
I always screw those up.
Acropolis is the one on top.
Right, okay, so the Parthenon is what they're built on.
This, the, the base structure, or whatever it is, the, the, the bottom area.
I don't, I don't know, actually.
I've never really looked that deeply into it, other than that there's a friend
of mine who's worked with the proportions and, uh, the, the, the sophisticated
proportions of the Parthenon, and it shows, actually, that it's as, as minutely
orchestrated as anything in Egypt, even though it's much later than Egypt.
Much later than Egypt, but no one knows who built it, and no one knows why they
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