Name: Joe Rogan Experience #864 - Kevin Ross & Gaston Bolanos
Uploaded: 2016-10-25T02:48:14.000Z
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #864 - Kevin Ross & Gaston Bolanos' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2016-10-25. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #864 - Kevin Ross & Gaston Bolanos

we're live what's up what's up boys what's up so nice to have you guys on man
um it's uh it's nice
first of all to uh it's nice to have you guys in studio but it's nice to have
muay thai which i've
been a giant fan of for so long i feel like it's starting to get more ground in
america and we've
done our best to try to promote it as much as possible on here and it's been
frustrating for
the longest time for me watching what i think is like one of the most exciting
combat sports in the
world and sort of kind of slip under the radar yeah man when golf is taking off
fucking golf's
everywhere they had uh scrabble on uh espn one time and that was just gut-wrenching
they had scrabble
yeah well it is a sport it's a lot a lot of training involved hey man it's
brutal but to see that and
then to see us just with nothing no coverage whatsoever for so long and you
know it's finally
on tv but still relatively under the radar it's tough to to watch but you
knowing that it's going
to be there eventually just it's just a matter of time you know so it's nice
every every time we take
another step like like when it got on axis tv it was such a giant leap compared
to where it was prior
to that so then what's coming next what's coming next it's just a matter of
time and the right people
coming along doing the right thing one can only hope it's when we talked about
this today but uh that
dana white had a point that i think he's probably right about is that in a lot
of people's eyes in america
kickboxing got kind of poisoned with that whole pka karate stuff that was on in
like the 80s or the 90s
yeah it put a bad taste in people's mouths so it's hard to break free from that
mentality of you think
kickboxing you think muay thai you think pants fighting yes yeah i remember the
shoes and everything
everybody thinks oh you do that thing with the pants and the shoes you know i
took a buddy of mine
who was a uh he's a producer he's a producer of fear factor actually my friend
david i took him to uh
some muay thai fights in burbank this is a local show that was at some hotel
you know they just had a
ballroom and uh this was back when um god who the fuck was fighting on that
card
um i'll remember i'll remember but some some good names some really good
fighters this was like back
in 2001 2002 yeah and uh he had never seen like muay thai before he really had
no idea what to expect
and uh he was like oh when they kick the legs it makes a big difference yeah i
was like yeah it makes
a fucking huge difference well every time you have to somebody asks you so what's
muay thai
every i feel so i i really dislike when i have to say it's like kickboxing with
elbows and knees
like i died a little bit inside every time i have to say that it's a matter of
how long you want to
sit there and talk to this person because you can be like no it's actually this
this that and so
sometimes it's like is it like kickboxing like yeah see you later with elbows
and knees
you're like dude like well kickboxing looks the same when you're looking at it
like if you're
watching glory it looks the same you know and then when people talk about like
i've had people over
watching the fights they go wait a minute this isn't muay thai no well it's it's
similar real close
it's like on the door it's like the difference between american football and
rugby like they're
similar they're running there's a ball yeah but they're not the same whatsoever
they're two they're
two different sports is that dissimilar because i think it is yeah really
completely because it's a
completely different pace it's a completely different mentality yeah you're you're
limited on just a few
weapons which seems very minor but unless you fight it unless you do it it's it's
night and day
it's night and day well i would imagine that it would make there was there
would be a big adjustment
for people that are listening they don't know what we're talking about kickboxing
if you watch like
glory or now bellator is having kickboxing as well and of course k1 was really
the first one to start
on a global scale yeah and make these big gigantic events over in japan kickboxing
does not allow the
use of elbows or knees and a very limited amount of clinching yeah whereas in
muay thai especially in
thailand you see a tremendous amount of clinching and it's very technical there's
a lot going on in
that clinching and i've always maintained i've been a big fan of lion fight
because what lion fight is
doing is giving you the actual pure muay thai you know other than the the
dancing and the music and
all the stuff that happens before you know in in a traditional muay thai fight
yeah they're doing a
really good job and and as you said they've had to uh limit a few of the things
in order to get it out
there to the general public which it's unfortunate you can't just you can't
just like throw it out there
in people's faces with with all the culture and the traditions particularly
here in america you know
people people would turn away from it so fast so i think at some point we'll be
able to build up to
that you know if you start uh slowly um educating people on what that is and
the history and everything
and hopefully eventually we won't get so far away from that that that muay thai
does become kickboxing
because we've taken so much from it you know and for people who don't know we're
talking about again
the the dance that you do the warm-up dance before uh a muay thai match called
y crew right and how long
does that usually take it depends really um you know for different gyms uh
different people do do
do longer and shorter ones you know i do a very limited uh shorter one uh when
i fight well i haven't
done it in forever but but because of that you know and knowing that people
aren't don't want to really
want to see it you know you kind of um americanize it and shorten it where some
of them
i've seen some i've seen some longer uh white crews than uh than fights in the
past yeah yeah well
what's a long one ah five minutes five minutes i don't know i mean workout has
like one of the
longest ones i've seen like he takes his sweet time you know goes down does
everything like perfectly
it's like a it's like a whole routine but but then in those situations like
people are very educated and
they want to see that they want to see the beauty of it almost becomes part of
the entertainment part of
the fight but besides the fight itself you know but when you go
go see a professional muay thai match i would estimate that like 50 of the
crowd trains
they're very educated in what it is you know it's like it's like baseball here
in america where you
don't have to play baseball in order to appreciate and love it because it's our
pastime right and
that's what it is in thailand not not everyone there is actively training or
fighting or has fought but
it's so embedded in their culture that that they just love it and they
appreciate it
right everything about it so to go to a live muay thai fight in thailand is
just you can't even
describe it i can only imagine it's on my bucket list for sure but in america
if you go to see a live
event in america half of the audience at least is either people from the gym or
people that know people
from the gym yeah and it's sort of almost an incestuous kind of an environment
yeah especially like
like when i was coming up the only people that were there trained were family
or friends of the people
fighting you know so that you weren't hitting this this wider audience you know
where we're now it is
getting on tv and there are people seeing it who who don't know anything about
it and it's slowly
building momentum and getting out there and getting a little more popular but
it's just one of those
sports where you know it's not for everybody and and you gotta find the way to
to bring it to
everyone you know it's not it doesn't have this mass appeal the fight in itself
does yeah but all
everything that goes with it is very uh is different it's very traditional the
the thai style and then
the music is very traditional and it's it's for a lot of people for whatever
reason they just don't
have an open mind they don't want to accept that yeah yeah yeah it's strange
and like we were saying
you know watching it live compared to watching on tv is like two different
things yeah so yeah there's
nothing like it even for me i'll watch it on tv and then i'll be there in
person like geez man like
why do people do this oh yeah yeah i do this yeah it's it's but it's within any
combat sport yeah when
you're there live you can feel it you feel the energy in the air you feel the
impact yeah um as opposed
to watching it on tv which is still great but nothing compares to being there
in person particularly
muaytai it's just brutal yeah i agree and it's there's something about it when
you're not hearing any
commentary you're just literally feeling the slap of the shins yeah yeah bone
to bone yeah it just
makes you cringe i was in la a couple years back when they had that big pro muay
thai event they had
a lot of big name fighters fight and buakau fought and he uh apparently had
some beef with some dude that
he was uh gonna fight and there was a lot of talk back and forth so he had this
long y crew where he was
shooting arrows at him yeah yeah do you remember that yeah that was the npl
right yes yeah yeah what
happened to that organization same thing that happens to a lot of organizations
they they they try to go
too hard out the gate they pay all this money for all these super high level
fighters which you know
your your um muay thai fans gonna know who they are but your your general
public has no idea and that's
who we're trying to reach is is the people that don't know anything about it so
those people aren't
going to come out just because there's this high level muay thai guy they don't
know who this is they
don't know anything about them they'd be more likely to come out to a a local
person because at
least like hey that guy fights out of california or whatever and and that's
been the biggest thing
that's um slowed slowed muay thai down is these promotions try to go too hard
out the gate and as
opposed to building it up with which you know you got to lose a lot of money
and build these people
with anything you got to start slows and build people gradually build the
promotion build the fighters build your
audience and eventually you can get to that level where where everyone on the
card is like top 10
people but you can't do that from the beginning when you were just trying to
grow and build yeah i
remember i went to the event and uh larry merchant was there remember the
boxing guy larry merchant was
there a lot of people were there nesto hoost was doing commentary it was and i
was like wow maybe this
is going to work you know it seems like these guys have got it too big too fast
you know too many big
names right away you know they ran i'm pretty sure they ran out of money like
by the second or third
show it just didn't work out and that's where lion fight has been doing like
really good job at like
growing their talent and trying to get better and like every they're putting
really good fights and
really good match-ups with guys from around here yeah yeah well the the match-ups
and the talent level
is very high it's it's it's way higher than the the credit it's getting yeah it's
like uh you know i
watch uh i have uh dvr in my gym i've got i mean what what number are they up
to now like 30 something
32 32 i've got way back to like 21 or something just saved up yeah and i can
watch them all while
i train and it's um there's such high level there's so much good fights you
know there's so many good
guys it's it's so exciting and it's it's such a dynamic technical sport and
that's one of the things
that i think is probably it's probably it probably slips by some people when
the casual observer is
watching it just some of the stuff that we were doing today where you were
showing me just a little
little shift