Name: Joe Rogan Experience #897 - Hunter Maats
Uploaded: 2017-01-11T02:59:05.000Z
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #897 - Hunter Maats' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2017-01-11. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #897 - Hunter Maats

do do do do do do what's up hunter how are you doing joe i'm doing good now
that we're actually
live feels more formal right we're just talking about how crazy some of the uh
people in brian
count's past have been what is it like doing his show man you you guys you're
like a co-host you
keep him on the level well yeah so i mean what what happened was is that a
couple of years ago
brian and i were talking about books and brian had just started doing his
podcast at that point
and uh you know he was sort of interviewing strippers a lot of strippers or
like porn stars or
like you know mma guys and that was fine but you know i was like brian if you
enjoy these books so
much why don't we get on some of these professors and he was like really like
professors would talk
to me and i said well you know what are your download numbers and you know he
told me them
and then i went off and i lied to the professors and like doubled or tripled
them how dare you
it's a way to do it though yeah and then you know as a result they were all
like that's great because
if you're a new york times best-selling author you usually have an audience of
three and so if you have a chance to like actually reach a decent number of
people then yeah you're
going to come on this weird podcast you're like i've heard of podcasting what
is that why not right
and so we started getting all of these professors and academics and scientists
and all that stuff on
and um you know that's sort of been the journey and we're now 200 plus episodes
in yeah that's brian
loves that kind of stuff but i always tell like how come you never talk about
that on stage
he just he wants to be captain silly face on stage if we're joe are we willing
to wander into the dark
dark place that is brian callen's mind dark dark place yeah are you ready to go
there yeah i've been
there dude for 20 years so i mean a lot of it comes down to brian's own
personal insecurities like
he loves it but he doesn't feel confident engaging with and breaking i would
disagree with that i would
say that he's just his comedy he prefers it to be silly you know because yeah
like there's a difference
between comedy and in brian's mind especially between what's really funny and
what's really deep
right you know and he doesn't find deep things to be very funny he's not he
doesn't you know what
i mean like he's when he gets into deep subjects he kind of gets into them just
for what they are
and not like tries to translate those into comedy yeah does that make sense it
does make sense i mean
but part of what i've seen across the course of you know these 200 episodes is
i think that brian
callen is growing up oh no way finally at like whatever age he is 55 55 there
is tomorrow yeah
there's starting to be an evolution and part of it is just sort of having
actually talked to some
of the smartest people in the world he's like oh these are just people and you
know they know certain
ideas that i didn't know and now i know them and you know maybe i can and he's
even started experimenting
with he particularly got really excited uh we had a guy called joe henrik on um
who wrote this great
book called the secret of our success um which is all about cultural evolution
how cultural evolution
works and one of the things he talks about in there is you know why do we have
black people and why do
we have white people um and you know it comes down to vitamin d and folate and
all these okay you said
vitamin where are you from oh i spent a lot spent a lot of time in england and
i got rid of most of
my accent but there are weird words that come out like vitamin and bean um and
so sometimes people
think i'm canadian which is ah that's hilarious because they literally can't
place it um side
story uh when i was when i first went to college you know i wanted to major in
linguistics for a while
and i met with my linguistics professor and he sits me down and we're having a
conversation just like
this and then all of a sudden he stops me just like you did and he says wait a
minute and he proceeds
to like ask me these really bizarre questions like he's like if john and jane
are in a race and john
comes fifth and jane comes in afterwards what position does jane come in and i
was like sixth
and he goes british proceeds to like do all of these tests to basically spot my
accent sixth sixth
there's no s it's not oh yeah yeah it's super weird and then medicine is the
other one they don't say
medicine they say medicine oh so by sick wow that's interesting that's
interesting because the x sound
is really a k and then an s even though we represent it as an x um so he
basically had all these tests and
he figured out pretty quickly that i was trying to pass as an american and he's
like sorry white boy not
so much how long did you live in england for uh 10 years 10 years until you're
10 uh from the age of
eight until 18. okay so if you were in england so you started out without an
english accent yeah right
so you learned english here and then when you started speaking in england did
you sense that you were
shifting over tuning wow and i sort of fought it i fought it and it's because
what happens is is that
people naturally sort of start to you know you're in a tribe and you start to
like pick up the values
and the speech patterns and all that sort of stuff of the tribe and you know i
really thought of
myself as american um in large part because i identified with my mom more than
my dad um and so what
happened was is that you know i was like uh-oh british accent creeping in and
so i fought that with
everything that i could but in spite of fighting the accent with everything i
could these words that
like bean and vitamin and medicine and sick that i wasn't watching for that no
ordinary person would
watch for crept into my mind it's always interesting to me there's a there's a
an added uh insight that
you get from people that come from another country and then live in america
there's something different
about like oh you guys don't know how weird this place is like i know you know
i've been to scotland i
live there you know like those people have a different insight very different
insight also i think
we are so established in america in in so far as thinking that this is how
people live in the world
like this is where you go you go to bird king it's right over there you get on
the highway it's right
over here and we see our landscape and we see our cityscapes and we see it as
being normal but if you
don't go to another country you don't go oh this is normal too this is normal
for them oh this
is normal for them yeah this is like you really need to be there like i don't
think that's i don't
think that's absorbable from a dvd no and and part of it is i mean this is a
large part of what we've
been doing and what joe henrik's work is about is the fact that you know when
you're in a tribe
whatever that tribe is whether that's america or christianity or mormonism or
islam or you know
some papua new guineans in the foothills of you know papua new guinea whatever
you do you're like that's
that's our way that's just the way things are done you don't question it right
the tribe creates the
sense that this is what normalcy is and then the second you go outside the
tribe whatever that tribe
is you're suddenly like oh our tribe is weird there are other ways of doing
things and um that that's
sort of been a large part of like the experience that brian and i had growing
up because brian's
dad was my dad's boss um and so that's the first place that i went after i was
born in saudi arabia
was brian's house like at birth i went to brian's house um and so for the last
you know and then we
moved around and we moved to different places he did you know philippines you
know whatever whatever
whatever i did saudi arabia greece brazil england um and then my parents moved
to france and libya
and the uae and then you know i came to the us so so moving constantly between
tribes like that was a
large part of my experience growing up as a kid was i was constantly like
people are all the same
and yet they're different and how does that work um and because i come from the
background of science
my first response was like oh well there must be science of this right why not
go and look at that
science and see what the science says about that turns out there's a massive
amount of science all about it
yeah there's a massive amount of science all about it and it's so fascinating
when you stop and think
that there are some people on i'm sure you've seen the most recent photos of
that uncontacted tribe
now contacted obviously in the amazon like really recently over the last couple
weeks no oh it's
amazing yeah really cool i mean these people are there they don't have american
t-shirts like sometimes
you'll see like these tribes they're deep in the amazon but they have t-shirts
on they have like a coca
cola adidas thing you're like how'd that get there there's there's some sort of
uh interaction but
with these people there's none there's been no interaction with the west they
have stick bows
that they've made and you know they're all barefoot and they're all wearing
leaves and
you know these people they're here they are trucking along in 2017 and you
gotta think 50 60 000 years
ago they probably were living exactly the same way yep and what's fascinating
is um just the degree to
which those people have so much to teach us because you know a lot of what
happened you know in the
beginning of the enlightenment is that you know if you look at locke and rousseau
and all these guys
they're trying to imagine the state of nature but they're a group of people who
are sitting around
in europe they've never met somebody from the amazon or someone from papua new
guinea and now we really
have a pretty good idea of what what was life like before civilization yeah um
and and it's i mean
it's pretty damn fascinating i mean jared diamond has this great book the world
until yesterday um
which is literally all about life before civilization and what are the things
that we can learn as
moderns from these people um what are the things they get right that we get
wrong like what was his
examples well he has there's a bunch of interesting ones one of my favorite
ones is uh constructive
paranoia um so what happens is when you have tribes people and they go outside
of their village um they
suddenly become massively paranoid like incredibly paranoid and he's like you
know these people are
more paranoid than your average new york jew right like they're suddenly like
wandering around the forest
and they're like is this tree gonna fall down where can we sleep like they go
and they check the trees
they look for footprints oh my god are those the footprints of you know some
other tribe like
what's going on what does that sound and he's like what is this paranoia about
and for a long time
he thought this paranoid paranoia was just misplaced that it was inappropriate
but then he had this
experience where he had a couple of experiences one um which was around you
know somebody some other
tribe that was potentially trying to kill him in papua new guinea and then the
other one was around
he basically you know was getting on this boat and you know if you're in the
west and you get on a
boat at the new york port authority or whatever you feel like oh yeah this boat's
safe like there are
safety rules probably someone would check it whatever so he gets on this boat
the boat goes out into the
ocean and like capsizes and sinks and he almost drowns to death and it's
basically because these
kids who were running the boat were running it way too fast and the water kept
sloshing over the side
in the high waves and at a certain point there's so much water in the boat that
the boat goes down
jesus christ you know when you're in that kind of environment one of these
societies that doesn't have
protections and doesn't have rules and all that sort of stuff being paranoid is
super smart it's the most
