Name: Joe Rogan Experience #898 - Bas Rutten & Mauro Ranallo
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #898 - Bas Rutten & Mauro Ranallo' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2017-01-12. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #898 - Bas Rutten & Mauro Ranallo

Morrow's a pecking and a poking over there.
Oh, I'm ready. I'm ready.
We're live, Morrow and the great Boss Rutten,
the dynamic duo of Pride Fighting Championships
back in the day, classic fights.
You guys are attached to some of the greatest fights of all time.
We are. I used to tell him every time after a single fight,
I say, because at the time it was six billion people,
I go, "Hey, understand, two in six billion people
just did the commentating for this show."
Because we love that show. It was great.
And I owe it all to this man, Mr. Rogan.
Boss Rutten, in many ways, saved my life.
Uh-oh. This is getting dark early.
Yeah.
I thought we were going to go down a happy road, but nope.
Mauro Ranallo wants to immediately go down the Boss Rutten
save my life road.
No, no, no. Let's keep it positive,
because my two worlds collided on my very first event in Pride
at Bushido won October 5, 2003.
Pro wrestler, Dol Scottis Jr., remember the guy in the mask?
Sure.
And they had to actually cut out even bigger eye holes
because he was fighting Miracle Crow Cop, the one.
And can you imagine a commission in North America would never allow that?
Yeah.
And yet, good old Alberto went in.
Did you see the recent one?
Boom.
Did you see the recent one with Gabby Garcia?
The rising fight?
Oh, it was scary.
I just saw like a, you know, like a repeat thing, like a little loop thing.
She fought an old lady.
A 52-year-old woman.
Yeah.
I don't know if she was 52, but whatever she was, she was hobbled.
She couldn't walk.
Yeah, well.
Her knees were totally wrapped up.
She was limping.
From the moment she got in there, and then Gabby Garcia towering over this old
lady.
I saw that.
She just beats the shit out of her.
She swallowed her.
I mean, it was just an assault.
Well, remember Giant Silva taking a 2x4 into the Pride ring against Takeshi Segura?
Remember Big Giant Silva?
He took a 2x4?
A 2x4.
To hit him with it?
Well, at the end of the angle, yeah, on a Pride fighting championship event.
Why did he do that?
It was, again, the marriage of pro wrestling and Pride in many ways, the larger-than-life
storylines and production could lead to things like that, and we saw it
firsthand.
The freak fights, if you will.
Right.
It wasn't, I mean, it wasn't a part of the actual fight.
The fight itself was there, but remember Alistair used to bring the axe?
Slash hammer.
There were pro-wrestling-esque entrances, which a lot of people loved.
But was this a part of his entrance?
This was after the fight.
Or is this threatening somebody?
Yeah, this was after the fight.
Remember Takeshi Segura and Giant Silva, right?
Yeah, yeah, remember that.
And it was like, yeah, he had the 2x4 as a prop.
Do you think it was just choreographed?
It was choreographed?
It was a prop choreographed?
I think it was maybe a part of the presentation and not something that, like
you say, he wanted
to assault someone with the 2x4.
Yeah, there was a few fights in the early days that you were like, oh, okay,
that's
a fixed fight.
Right?
There's a few.
Oh, you know, listen.
Do you remember that was the funniest thing ever?
Coleman was fighting Takata.
Takata, yeah.
He told me that he was going to get finished in six minutes by way of heel hook.
So now the press comes to me and they tell me, what do you think is going to
happen in
this fight?
I said, oh, it's easy.
Takata's going to win.
Six minutes, heel hook.
Oh, God.
And everybody froze because this was before the fight.
So they had to change their whole gimmick, what they were going to do.
It went like to one and a half minute now.
But I just thought, I guess I spoiled it for him.
You had the Back to the Future Pride result.
They had it all planned out.
They had it all planned out.
You know, everything with Takata, I would say, well, except Hickson, of course.
Yeah, that was real.
Hickson mauled Takata.
Yeah.
That was 100% real.
But then, you know, Takata came in our studio training at the Beverly Hills Jiu
Jitsu Club.
We had white and blue belts tapping him.
So it was not like this guy was...
Well, he was just a big time pro wrestler.
Pro wrestler.
And that is why they wanted to, again, that's, you know, you talk about how
pride fighting
championships, the genesis, it was that, you know, bringing the biggest, the so-called
toughest, best pro wrestler against Hickson Gracie, the mythic Valetudo Jiu Jitsu
fighter.
The UFC had a similar but more rational approach to it recently with CM Punk
versus Mickey Gall.
They said, well, let's give this CM Punk guy a kid with one fight, one amateur
fight.
I think he had at least one amateur fight and one fight in the UFC.
Showed some promise, choked a guy out.
And we said, okay, you're going to get a tough kid.
You're going to get a tough kid, but you're going to have to fight a real
fighter.
But, you know, you're not going to fight Hickson Gracie.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
I mean, it was just, at that time, there was nobody had Jiu Jitsu like Hickson.
No.
It was just, he was just so above and beyond anyone.
He did everything, yeah.
Unreal.
Was he 400 and 0?
No.
No, no.
That's a nice round number, I always say.
No, no.
They always, like, threw that out.
Like, you've got to wonder who threw that out first.
Like, they did everyone such a disservice.
Do it like 398.
Right?
That sounds way more believable than a perfect 400 and 0.
What's crazy is when you see these Thai fighters who literally do have 200
fights, and they're
20 years old.
Like, there's some kids that fight for lion fight.
Yeah.
And Siddichai Sitsong Pinong, who's the lightweight champion now in Gloria.
Yes.
And, in fact, many years ago in Canada, doing Muay Thai on TSN, the ESPN
equivalent up there,
same thing when you brought in the Thai fighters.
They, but they were, as you know, Joe.
And there's a good documentary, shameless plug, Showtime is going to be showing
a documentary
about fighting in Thailand, in Muay Thai, where these kids literally, that's
how they survive,
right?
You start at eight, nine years old, and you're on your way to hopefully making
enough to eat.
Did you hear that new documentary that they're doing right now?
There are people in jail, like, murderers.
They get a chance to fight themselves for a pardon.
Oh, my God.
That's a new show.
It's going to start, like, in a week on Netflix.
That may be the documentary as well on Showtime.
Yeah, with that Red Devil.
Oh, what's his name?
In the rat suit, the guy with the horn, with the horns cut off.
Famous actor.
Hellboy?
Talking about Hellboy?
Yeah, Hellboy.
That actor.
Oh.
He's also in that gang.
Goddammit.
Oh, that's my brain locked.
Yeah, me too.
But he's narrating it.
Jamie, you know who it is.
The dude who's the star of Hellboy.
The documentary is called Five Rounds to Freedom as well.
Nice.
Yeah, but it's narrated by him.
I love the guy.
Pull up the page on it.
IMDb.
Whatever it is, yeah.
Oh, there you go.
Ron Perlman.
Oh, Ron Perlman.
Ron Perlman, yes.
There you go.
Wow, that's crazy.
So what are their crimes that they're going to be absolved for?
One guy, for what I understand, that he stabbed somebody in the neck.
And I go, you know, a petty crime.
I go, okay, I can understand it.
But a murderer?
I don't look at this.
Violent criminals.
The state-sponsored rehabilitation program, popular known as prison fight, is
not reserved
for petty criminals.
Under the law, violent criminals, including those convicted of murder -- hold
on a second.
A piece of shit.
See, this is the one I was talking about.
Showtime.
Including those convicted of murder and sexual assault have been freed and in
some cases
fully absolved of their crimes through their participation in prison fights.
Well, that sounds crazy.
Heirs of my birthday.
That's even crazier.
That's crazy that anybody would allow this.
All you have to do if you're a violent criminal is prove that you're more
violent than the
other violent criminals and you get your freedom?
That's fucking insane.
Yeah, I don't think there's a lesson to be learned for them.
Except it results on one final fight.
They are free.
Yeah, can violent men redeem themselves through violent acts?
That's ridiculous.
Of course they can.
Well, they think probably a plus and a plus becomes a negative.
Maybe they think that way.
They become something to your sister or your daughter or your mom.
And then they get out because they beat the fuck out of all the other rapists.
I 100% agree.
If you see the trailer, that's what a woman says.
He stabbed his kid in the neck.
Killed the kid.
And now this guy is going to fight for his life to get out of there.
Yeah.
You see, it shouldn't be...
No.
It shouldn't be legal.
That's crazy.
Back to the 400 or no.
Most likely not a real number.
Yeah.
In anybody's case.
Somebody just made that up for, you know, propaganda purposes.
If they would have said over 400 or just below 400, you see, but making it 400.
I love that his son is super active now.
And I love that Krohn is fighting like really top guys now, you know?
And he's...
He fought Kawajiri in his last fight.
He's a tough fucking guy.
That's a tough guy.
Yeah.
Choked Kawajiri out.
I always wondered what happened to Crossley Gracie.
Remember...
Man, he was so good.
His striking.
His striking, that's the thing.
He seemed to be the first Gracie, to me, to take it to the next level.
Become more well-rounded and well-versed.
And whoop!
Done.
I think Hodger showed really great promise until King Mo knocked him out.
Right.
And then that was a big knockout.
You know, King Mo can crack.
He's got some serious power.
He's a tremendous athlete.
Student of striking as well.
Huge boxing fan.
I'll never forget that ground and pound KO that he had with Seth Pazinski.
Yes.
Oof.
Oof.
Scary guy to have on top of you.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
With that...
Throw the guard to the side and drop that right hand on you.
Like, oh, my God.
Yeah.
Well, it's...
I mean, it's amazing how some were blessed.
Benji Reddick at the time.
I mean, remember.
I mean, he just...
Ninja.
Yeah.
That was one shot.
And I told him to everybody.
He is that guy that when he has a...
You know, when he faces a great striker and I tell him, just take him down.
I mean, I was...
I saw him train with Mo Lewa.
He took Mo down.
I mean, Benji was a freaking animal like in training.
My focus mitts, my hands would hurt after I would hold him.
And he would stand on one leg and hit.
He would have no clue how he generated that kind of force.
But he had so much power.
And I said, dude, just take him down.
Scott Smith.
Why would you even go with him?
The guy is a striker.
Just take him down, knock him out on the ground.
And he didn't do it.
Every time at the end of the round, he did it.
Hit him one time.
It was almost dazed and the belt went.
And in the second round again, but the third round he lost.
What a compelling career for Scott Smith too, right?
Headlining events on CBS.
He had a major network exposure.
I remember what we called the Christmas miracle when he came back and knocked
out Kung Lee.
And again, a guy who's, I think, back working hands of steel back in the
factory.
And it's interesting how the sport in such a short period of time, of course,
we've seen the explosion.
But what could have been even with Elite XC and we saw what happened with Kimball.
But it's just interesting for me now, as we reminisce about stuff, how so many
organizations had opportunities and yet fell by the wayside for one reason or
another.
And a lot of it self-inflicted.
Well, Elite XC was a really hard one to watch because it was bastardizing the
sport.
You were seeing, they were standing people up.
Like, do you remember when-
Oh, I remember that 15 second rule was disastrous.
It was crazy.
But it was also, they were standing people up in dominant positions.
Like Roy Nelson.
Roy Nelson and Arlovsky.
You're right.
Yeah.
Had him inside control.
Yeah, incredulous.
Working for Camorra and they stood him up.
They're like, whoa, that's crazy.
But then you can understand why though with Kimbo Slice, you kn