Name: Joe Rogan Experience #914 - Ryan Callaghan & Kenton Carruth
Uploaded: 2017-02-09T01:34:21.000Z
Description: Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #914 - Ryan Callaghan & Kenton Carruth' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2017-02-09. Transcript available.

Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #914 - Ryan Callaghan & Kenton Carruth' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2017-02-09. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #914 - Ryan Callaghan & Kenton Carruth

that's why you have a producer jamie's on the ball yeah get that sucker right
up to you just
pull it you need to move it around bring it to you you don't want to feel
uncomfortable these
chairs are shit they're very nice oh yeah we're live oh we're live live live
live live live oh
uh i'm here with my good pal ryan callahan how are you buddy i'm doing swell
how are you doing and
uh his good pal kenton kruth uh met you before at the first light booth at the
shot show that was
the first time i met you right i think so i think that's it yeah and we i
wanted to have you guys
on first of all because i like i love your company you guys got a great company
uh first light makes
really cool uh hunting clothes outdoor clothes made out of you started out with
merino wool which i
think uh before i went with uh ryan and steve ranella i really had no idea
about the properties
of merino wool i didn't know that it keeps you from stinking that it you know
it that it really
retains heat while you're wet so it's got so many awesome properties to it like
if you go out
for people that don't know that don't go in the outdoors but if you go out and
you walk and it's
cold out and you hike like a long distance and you get sweaty if you're wearing
cotton you're kind of
fucked if it's really cold out once you start getting sweaty your body starts
shivering and you get in a
real bad place wool has this really weird quality and maybe you can help me
explain that where when
it gets wet it's somehow or another still retains heat so if you sweat in it
you still feel okay
like oh what's going on there well you know it just it naturally moves the
sweat off of your skin and
kind of tries to get it to the outermost layer and at which point then it can
evaporate fast
but um you know sheep have to live in crazy environments you know it'll be
hotter than
shit in the summertime and then um you know super cold in the winter so you
know over the course of
evolution they've got you know a coat that will deal with a massive amount of
variance you know and
wool is pretty much the same it's like you can wear it when it's when you're
sweating bolts it pulls
the sweat off and then um dries pretty quickly but even when it's wet it retains
80 percent of its heat
yeah it's amazing it's amazing stuff and is there a synthetic uh material that
does the same thing
well every synthetic is trying to a mimic down or b mimic merino wool because
those are the two most
efficient um you know temperature regulating fabrics or materials out there um
and that's that's how you
got into your pre-malofts and your all your military testing and that's where
you saw synthetics really
take off um so yeah it's so like a pre-maloft for example or um some of your
fleeces they basically
combine something that loves water and something that hates water so the thing
that loves water is
going to pull moisture off and the thing that hates it is going to repel it and
try to push it to the
outside that's interesting so it's like sort of a two-layer process where
something's trying to
keep you dry and something is trying to like literally suck up the wet like a
sponge yes and
then somehow or another your body heat then can regulate it because your body
heat you're
you're staying warm because the dry is close to your skin and then the heat
comes off your skin and can
it can dry out that stuff better yeah exactly and your body heat you're like
your natural um
you know your natural zone how much heat and how much moisture you push out is
a major factor
um and especially when you get into like some of your waterproof breathable
um membranes and things like that uh that's something that i think really would
surprise a lot of people
when it comes to uh hunting clothing they really would have no idea like how
much how much how technical the
stuff is and how much thought is put into it and how how like involved the
process is of creating this
stuff you know it's funny because we all kind of came from the traditional like
ski snowboard
snowmobile world you know grew up whatever skiing and so we've been you know
involved in having super
you know technical clothes since i was i don't know eight years old right right
all the underwear stuff
for skiing all merino wool all the different polys when that kind of came out
and replaced cotton when
i was a kid and you know um they work great but it wasn't until we kind of
started using merino that
we found something that i mean you know if you go skiing or snowboarding or
sledding snowmobiling
right you're sweating bullets and if you get stinky whatever it's just how it
always was you know but
for hunting it's really a big deal you know if you can possibly kind of you
know shrink your stink
footprint just by a little bit it can be the difference between succeeding that
season or not
you know and so we also are wearing merino for whatever you know all of the
other sports you know
like skiing and snowboarding and you know pedal biking and whatever um and once
we found out that
it didn't stink that was like whoa that was a big deal you know because you
could wear it for days and
days and so that was kind of the impetus and at the same time it started taking
over i would say the
traditional outdoor space you know yeah and your company is really popular with
public land do-it-yourself
hunters guys who go out backpacking for long periods of time and that's one of
the reasons why they like
that merino wool and one of the reasons why i wanted to have you guys on is to
talk about what's been
going on lately with uh h.r 621 and now h.r 622 these two recent bills they
pulled h.r 621 steve rinello
wrote a big article about it but for the uninitiated what these bills are about
is they're about selling off
our public land uh giving the states the ability to do whatever they want with
it right now these lands are
federal they're owned by the people of the united states it's a very unusual
situation that we have
here it's it's an amazing situation and there's very few countries in the world
that have anything
even remotely close to it where there's millions and millions and millions of
acres that are available
for anybody listening to this to go on it's it's you it's literally your land
like back country hunters
and anglers have that great shirt that i wear all the time says public landowner
and i've seen you on it
and i'm gonna tweet the picture of you and i um from shot show um where i was i
was with you and you
were wearing that shirt yeah that's that's a such an important point for people
because they i didn't
know it at all until i went with you guys until i went with uh rinella and the
crew we went to montana
that first trip with brian callan who's hopefully coming that's why that door's
open folks if you're
watching this we're leaving that door open because uh callan is trying to make
his way over here right now
um but i didn't know that this public land system even existed and i think most
people are unaware
they just don't they don't understand how unique this is and how incredible
like the the our forefathers
like their their their vision to make something so incredible that no one can
go in and just
fucking put malls up in it is an amazing thing and i think this is like the
easiest battle in the world if we can
somehow tell people you know communicate even a fraction of our appreciation
for it yeah it's just
it is the reason i get up in the morning well especially where you guys are
because you guys
are like you're in the boondocks man i mean you guys are in idaho and you're in
a beautiful area but you
could literally like go out your back door and make a straight line through
public land for forever
like you could just go walk and disappear oh i mean we can walk straight north
and cross uh uh two
highways and one interstate and keep going across the canadian border um cross
two more highways and be in
the yukon basically so it's a wild chunk of ground it's amazing it is and it's
open to everybody everybody
and you know it's it's an interesting issue because sometimes you know you'll
get mountain bikers you
get after the equestrian people or the you know the the the hikers get after
the motorbikers but it's an
issue for every single person because no matter what sport you do or how you
choose to enjoy the outdoors
that's your land once that's gone it's gone yeah i mean and there are
regulations like as far as where
you can take motorbikes or where you can ride even bikes right even trail bikes
but that set aside
man there's there's some amazing country that you could just go get lost in
just go wander pitch a tent
drink out of a stream and you could stay there for long periods of time and it's
totally legal it's totally yours
your tax dollars literally fund and support it and all the money that comes
from buying hunting equipment
from buying tags from all that stuff is what pays to keep fish and game uh
employed make sure that people
are monitoring the health and the populations of the animals that live there
making sure that no one is
breaking any of the laws i mean it's really an amazing amazing system it is it's
unreal and you
know i want to clarify a couple of things like all these national forests um
any blm grounds they all
have their own regulations so yeah you can bureau of land management for folks
that don't know what you're
saying management you guys are deep on the inside you're gonna most people
listening don't know what the
fuck you're talking about that's right so um different forests um have
different regulations as far as like
how long you can stay camped in one spot um typically um it's 10 to 15 days and
then you have to move
again depending on where you are x amount of you know sometimes it's 100 feet
sometimes it's
20 miles um and then you can set up camp again just arbitrary rules it is not
arbitrary there's some
smart folks out there that um study the impact of man on the land and they want
to try to keep you know
that pristine experience that we all love to go find right there for everybody
and they have an
incredibly tough job because their mandate their federal mandate is to manage
that land for everyone
how did you guys become a company that's so connected in people that do go into
the outdoors
and people that do hunt and you know enjoy your products you guys are like
really connected to
public land conservation and you know and these do-it-yourself public land
sportsmen like you guys are
like very very connected in that world like it's you're very it's a very
respected company in that world
thanks i mean you know we do we see it from all angles you know all of us have
you know in the
summertime we'll like i said we'll ride mountain bikes and the wintertime backcountry
skiing and it's
all of a sudden you know and then hunting of course it's huge but you just see
it from all angles like
places that where you recreate 365 days a year all of a sudden start to get
sucked up and it's just like
wait a minute wait a minute you know like if this wasn't if we didn't have
public lands we wouldn't
have a business right it it it would just wouldn't exist it wasn't a committee
decision our board of
trustees didn't say it's high time well if you look at the united states being
only founded in 1776 and
you just look at the massive amount of land we occupy now with there's just the
greater los angeles area
where there's 30 million people and you know you go up all through the pacific
coast highway and just
see all the cities and see all the buildings and see all the stuff that you
would encounter if you
try to try to drive from california to new york the only thing that's stopping
that whole
area from being covered with buildings and malls and gas stations and anything
else they can stick in
there is the fact that it's public land it's that it's it's federally owned
land and you can't build on it
there's some folks that want that they want it we drove that uh what is it tripanga
topanga canyon
yeah yeah um and i was