Name: Joe Rogan Experience #949 - Josh Zepps
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #949 - Josh Zepps' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2017-04-20. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #949 - Josh Zepps

5, 4, 3, 2, 1, fuck it we'll do it live!
Fuck it!
We'll do it live!
Do it live!
We'll do it live!
Do it live!
Josh Zapps, today's a sad day.
Yes.
We lost Bill O'Reilly.
I'm mourning.
Are you mourning, Joe?
I feel like I should be, but I'm not.
He made a ton of loot.
What's that?
I said he made a ton of loot.
Wow.
I mean since '96 when Fox News launched and he was like the big, I'm just
making it up
that that's when Fox News launched.
Let's check it Jamie!
Is that when Fox News launched?
'96?
Check it!
Can you fucking check it?
Just check it now!
Do it live!
Check it now!
Check it live!
He has pulled in so much money for that network and for himself.
Oh yeah.
He wrote a bunch of books.
He was the main guy really.
He really was the main guy.
It's a big day in broadcasting.
They're gonna find another old cunt to fill a spot.
They're gonna have to.
That's what people want.
Look at that.
October 7th, 1996, ladies and gentlemen.
You're welcome, America.
You're welcome.
Before that, he was on like hard copy or something like that, right?
I don't even know.
I was too young.
I wasn't even here in the States.
Oh yeah.
I was a school child in Australia.
A little child.
I don't remember him from anything else.
I just remember him being on O'Reilly and watching it and going, what is...
It's like that longing for nostalgia thing.
You know, you see an older gentleman in a tie who just said, well that's the
way it is.
Yeah.
The tide goes in, the tide goes out.
Can you explain it?
Like what in the fuck is this guy doing?
That was when he was talking to an atheist, wasn't he?
Yeah.
Who was he?
Was it?
Oh, I don't remember.
It was like, maybe it was Ricky Gervais or someone.
I can't remember, but he was saying...
It was Ricky Gervais.
Well, maybe it was Sam.
Could it have been Sam Harris?
No.
No.
I don't know who it was.
Anyway, some atheist was saying, like...
We'll find out.
He was saying, why do you...
He was like...
And Bill was like, I've got the absolute number one reason why you have to
believe in God.
Because, tide goes in, tide goes out.
Always been that way, always will be that way.
Moon goes round, Earth spins round.
How do you explain that, if not God?
It was just super obvious that he was pandering.
Because the guy went to fucking Harvard, okay?
Bill O'Reilly's not a dope.
He might be a douchebag, but he's not a dope.
He's not...
Well, I think religion makes people dopey in ways that they don't even know
about.
I don't even think he's religious.
I think he's barely religious.
I think he's religious enough to get by with the job.
I think there's a certain requirement.
That's interesting.
So, do you think he has been insincere?
100%.
100%.
Because I think he's one of the...
Look, I don't watch the show a lot, so I'm not sure.
But he's always struck me as one of the more straight shooters.
I think he is...
He's smart, but not wise.
Yes.
You know, what he feels in his gut is more important than what the data tells
him.
And I think he falls for a bunch of fallacies that a lot of people fall for,
especially if they're religious.
Like the idea that there is a certain order to the cosmos and how could we all
have come about?
How could this whole thing around us exist with all these butterflies and the
moon and the tide comes in and the tide goes out?
And there's his me and Joe, these spiritual creatures, these beings sitting
opposite each other at a table in Los Angeles right now.
Some people just find that too inexplicable to explain without a deity.
So, they're like, "All right, there must have been a big guy who did it."
It's even dumber, in my opinion, to think that one dude engineered this whole
fucking thing.
I mean, wouldn't you just think that, "Oh, wow, there's some crazy super
complex system that sort of works in some odd way where it balances itself out
with predator and prey and food and water and fire and dirt and all this stuff
together."
And then you realize that it all has to form out of the actual elements that
come from an exploding star.
It's magnificent, just the full realm of things that they've absolutely proven
to be true in terms of scientific discoveries about the universe and just the
very elements that constitute human beings and everything you see, this table
and laptops.
It's amazing.
The idea that one dude is sitting there up in his cloud with a robe on.
That's so silly.
And of course, moderate religious people will say, "Well, of course we don't
believe in that kind of a god.
We don't believe in a god with a robe and a beard sitting in the clouds.
We believe in a more sophisticated, metaphorical version of god."
Yeah, but you still believe that whatever consciousness created black holes and
the whole cosmos gives a shit whether or not you beat off.
Well, also that it has to be a one.
Yeah.
A god.
A thing.
A one thing.
Unless you're a Hindu.
In which case, I've got an elephant god over here.
I've got a Vishnu over here.
I've got a multi-armed monkey.
Whoa.
And you've got a lot of hash.
You've got to get a lot of hash to see those things.
Hopefully we do, Joe.
Yeah.
I mean, one of the things that's interesting is I think at any given point in
time, people just assume that the universe was created by whatever thing
happens to be around them.
Lawrence Krauss was on the podcast.
I heard that.
That was a great episode.
I had him on my podcast.
No, I had him on Point of Inquiry actually, which is a different podcast than
my normal one, We The People, like the week before he was on yours.
Yours was way better.
You can talk about a lot of shit in three hours, Joe.
You can't talk about it in 30 minutes.
Yeah, that's why I like doing it.
Yeah.
But he broke my brain with this one thing.
He said, he explained that when you talk about the universe being 14 billion
years old, you're talking about the observable universe.
And he's like, the problem is space moves faster than light.
The universe is moving faster than the speed of light.
So what we're seeing is what we can see from 14 billion years ago because, but
that doesn't mean that's all there is.
Right.
He goes, space itself beyond that.
He's expanding.
But what he's saying is space itself beyond that could be infinite.
It's just moving faster than we can see.
You just broke my brain.
Yeah, exactly.
So what he was saying is like when you're talking about the observable universe
being, I think it's 13 point something billion years old.
That's right.
Almost 14 billion years old.
That's just how far back we can see.
He's like, but before that, like when you go back further.
Yes.
It's not that there's nothing there.
You reach the fringe.
That's right.
It's just that we can't see it because the space itself is moving faster than
the speed of light.
That's right.
And you're also, what you're looking at is not only the edge of the universe,
but the edge of time.
Yeah.
Because it's not even the edge.
What he's saying is it's very likely that not only is it infinite, but there's
an infinite number of possibilities beyond it.
Yes.
And those things beyond it may also be right alongside us.
I mean, in terms of the other dimensions and things like that, like he didn't
even get into all of that stuff.
But if you believe in string theory and quantum physics, and if you believe in
math, then you sort of have to.
Well, quantum physics and string theory to a dope like me is one of those
things where I have to kind of take your word for it.
It's almost like before the, you know, before the Lutheran times, before the
Bible was translated and you had to rely on the priests.
Just trust the priest.
I'll trust you with your knowledge of Latin.
Why should I trust the priest?
Because he knows Latin.
He speaks Aramaic.
He knows how to read this shit.
Yeah.
Who told the priest?
Well, the Pope.
Who told the Pope?
Don't ask questions.
Go and eat your food.
I think it's so important to appreciate.
Like when people are science deniers, it's so frustrating because everything
you use, everything you enjoy, everything that you, in terms of medicine,
technology, is based on the work of countless people who have worked
generations after generations on the innovations of the past.
Like the people before them invented some shit.
They improved upon it.
They figured out more.
They studied the calculations of those people.
They added to it.
And then you get to 2017.
Hmm.
So whenever someone steps in with an incredibly limited understanding of, of
science or of what we're, what we're dealing with in terms of the universe
itself and says, whoa, tide goes in, the tide goes out.
You can't explain it.
Like you motherfucker.
They've been explaining the tides forever.
Yeah.
Like what are you talking about?
Well, I think what he actually means is you can't explain why there is, why
there is something instead of total chaos and anarchy and disorder.
I think you're giving him too much credit.
Really?
Yeah, he's a douchebag.
Okay.
I think he's pandering.
I think he was just trying to, I think he knows there's a bunch of old dummies
out there, crocheting, you know, with three teeth, listening to his stupid
fucking show.
But you don't think, do you not think that you can be highly intelligent and
religious?
Yes, you can.
But you, highly effective at individual pursuits.
Now, when you talk, when you say highly intelligent, I think as soon as someone,
as soon as someone is religious in terms of like, if you believe in preposterous
notions, like there's a guy who came back to life, he turns water into wine, he
walks on water.
If you believe that, you're not intelligent.
You're just not.
Well.
I don't believe you're intelligent.
I think you are intelligent in individual disciplines, but obviously if you
believe something that makes no sense whatsoever, you believe that someone was
magic, someone defied physics, someone had superpowers, someone was a person
who could bring people back to life, someone could come back to life themselves.
There's no evidence that anybody like that has ever existed.
Yeah, and on what grounds do you believe this?
You believe this on the flimsiest fucking evidence that wasn't even written
down until 70 or 80 years after that dude died, because Christianity didn't
even, so I'm with you.
I mean, I'm an atheist, but.
Even worse than that, because the Old Testament is far older than the notion of
Jesus.
Totally.
Yes.
But it's not.
But hang on, I do quibble with the idea that you can't be smart.
Stephen Colbert is one of the smartest.
But what is smart?
The word smart, this is what the problem is.
Like, we define smart.
If you believe stupid shit, are you smart?
You are implying that the reason why Bill O'Reilly talks about tide goes in,
tide goes out, is because he's pandering to people, because he's a Harvard guy,
and there's no way that he would be dumb enough to believe that.
No, I'm implying that, because I looked at the way he said it, and I know what
he does, and I think he's manipulative, and I think what he's doing is playing
to his base.
I think there's a lot of people out there that want to see some smug liberal
atheist get taken down a notch, and Bill's just the guy to do it, and talk over
him, and he's a big giant guy, so he can yell and get all aggressive.
What I don't understand is, like, Stephen Colbert is obviously a very smart guy.
He's a Catholic.
Mm-hmm.
Andrew Sullivan, I don't know if you know him, the blogger, he's a friend of
Sam Harris's, like, he's a Christian.
Good luck.
Good luck with all that.
These people find ways of compartmentalizing logic, I guess.
So, like, as you say, they believe in something that is totally crazy.
I mean, the idea that you can say a certain number of Latin words over a cracker,
and it'll turn bodily into the flesh of someone who existed 2,000 years ago, is
crazy magic talk.
Well, it's crazy talk, but there are people that are religious that are
extremely intelligent, and I agree with you on this, like Jordan Peterson.
Right.
Who's a brilliant man, who is very religious in the sense that he studi