Name: Joe Rogan Experience #953 - Shirley Manson
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Description: Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #953 - Shirley Manson' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2017-05-02. Transcript available.

Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #953 - Shirley Manson' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2017-05-02. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #953 - Shirley Manson

the weave it yeah it's better five four three two
kapow and we're live shirley how are you i'm feeling alive you look alive
thanks so do you
does anybody ever ask you are you really only happy when it rains all the time
is that annoying
yeah i would imagine so i shouldn't have done it i couldn't help myself it was
a little beneathy
joe but that's okay i'll forgive you i panicked i didn't know how to start i
never do well at least
you didn't ask me are you really related are you really you know the sister of
marilyn manson is
another one too oh is that one that comes up that comes up a lot yeah that guy's
a freak have you
ever met him i love him he's an odd dude he's you think oh i was kind of
shocked by how normal he is
oh he's very smart very nice really smart and really i thought really forthright
yeah oh yeah
appreciated him i loved him actually i i was i was crazy about him well doesn't
that in and of
itself make him a freak yeah i guess in this world i guess and we were just
talking out there about how
many people are pilled up and that this world well we were also talking about
people who can't tell
the truth that's yeah maybe even more weird yeah we were talking about transracial
people you know
the one folks we don't have to say her name you know that chick that one who
thinks she's and then
that dude who also did it there's a lot of weird people out there but uh also
jamie jamie lies
about being an indian apparently not a lie it's not a lie a native american
inside joke yeah that's
that funny thing you can't indian is actually kind of offensive to some people
now yeah where it was
like standard for a long time well i'm ashamed to say when i first came to america
20 years ago i always
because because that was the way we were brought up to we refer to native americans
as red indians
and every time i would say red indian everybody in me my band would be going
you can't say that
to stop that and i'm like oh god i'm so sorry but you know i was 30 years in or
whatever i was so used
to saying it oh is that a scotland thing you say scottish thing you say red indian
we used to say
red indian that has now been completely changed but back then 20 odd years ago
yeah we we always
refer to native americans as red indian yeah this i mean you can't save red
people but you can say white
people you can definitely say black people but you can't say yellow people yeah
it's complicated it's
super complicated i get it it's you know if you didn't know it would be like if
you were just learning
this language like if you came from china or something like that confused you'd
be baffled yes yeah i spend
my life baffled though that's okay i've just gone i just go with it now good
for you to be baffled
good for you that is a good way to approach it yeah well it's made me happier i'll
tell you that it's
definitely happier than trying to control everything yeah a lot of people that
go down that rabbit hole
that's not a good rabbit hole to go down no but i think controlling things are
it's fear driven right
sure yeah yeah yeah definitely a lot of it i think i'm too old to be fearful
really a wee bit yeah yeah
but you're like uh see there's a certain thing that happens to people in show
business when they
get to a certain age either they uh feel like uh it's slipping away or they
feel comfortable you seem
like a comfortable person yeah i'm a comfortable person well kind of kind of
yeah what's uncomfortable
i'm uncomfortable about a lot of things let's get into it you got there already
that's impressive
you're fast lower your guard by giving you something really beneath me first
and then i see and then you come in like and just yeah you don't even know it's
coming low to the
left side of the head um no i'm uncomfortable about a lot of things but i hear
what you're saying and
yeah i feel like maybe if you feel like you've failed and then you've stepped
back up
then you've started you're you either crumble and you can't build your life
back up or you
you find a place to stand and you build your career again on your own terms and
then it is comfortable
is that what you're saying like that's how you where you're at that's what i'm
saying but you never
failed i felt i did you know really how yeah well you know we have we in the 90s
were so much a sort of
pop cultural zeitgeist i guess right you know and that can't last forever but
when it stops
i i should speak for myself when it stopped i was it was dizzying for me i didn't
really know what to
do with myself i didn't really understand my identity you know i mean i didn't
know who it was such a ride
because it was such a crazy ride and i i identified with myself as a successful
person and my idea of
success was really warped you know oh so your idea of success was commercial
success correct
yeah did you take any comfort in the artistic success i did eventually but at
the time i felt
like we were being creatively adventurous and we were getting punished for it
and it made me really angry
oh so you feel like were you getting published i mean was it the publishers the
the music publishers
that were punishing you like what was no it wasn't even that person although i
took it personally it
was really much more a cultural shift you know right so that just that it wasn't
received as well
correct you are correct sir yeah and so we've been used to being on top of the
charts you know and
then when that stops all of a sudden you're like well is everything we're doing
all our ideas rubbish
but deep down you know they're not but you're being rejected anyway and so you
have to find a way
through that and that's complicated i think or it was complicated for a simple
girl like me
yeah well i would imagine any time you were as big as garbage was in the 90s i
mean you guys were
gigantic i mean it was hard to go into a clothing store without hearing your
music blaring yeah you
know it was mad it was crazy mad yeah i'm a huge fan i love you guys oh thank
you so it's kind of weird
sitting across from you but it's quite nice though isn't it it is it is nice
i'm enjoying myself you seem to be yeah but like i would imagine that like as
big as you guys were
you either stay that big and then you become a crazy person you're probably
better off like doing what
you did like like taking our artistic chances settling in and then doing what
you're doing now being more
comfortable yeah i guess so i mean we were lucky we had a manager a very wise
manager at q prime
management at the time who said what do you want do you want a long career at a
lower level or do you
want a short career at a ridiculously high level and we were like we want the
long career and you know
that's exactly what we got in the end but um there was this mad blip that
happened for alternative music
which had had never gotten really that much pop cultural success i guess we
were like we enjoyed
this weird rush of alternative music that for for a blip ruled the charts if
you weren't an alt band you
were a nothing band yeah you guys caught that wave that post nirvana wave yeah
that's really what it was
right yeah yeah i would love to talk to chris cornell like remember when chris
cornell did those pop music
songs like he went from sound garden just like deep crazy dark band to yeah
that's true like weird poppy
music yes sort of softer and i'm sure he was just trying to figure out a way to
survive like we all do you
know and it's complicated for anybody with a career yourself included you know
you have to like adapt and
figure out well okay where do i step to now yeah it's weird well i think
ultimately what you got
to figure out is what do you like yeah but it's hard to know what you like
sometimes no sure because if
you don't like something but it's super successful for you exactly then you
might keep doing that that's
very confusing yeah surely my goodness we're getting deep here yeah we're going
maybe you're my future
husband oh i'm married my wife's coming over here so do better keep that on the
dl i'm sure my husband
will be listening and laughing his ass yeah your husband is named billy bush he
is it's a different
billy bush not to grab the pussy billy bush correct but he he really suffered
during that time he got like
a hail stream of abuse via twitter i mean we found it funny but it was also
quite alarming because we
were like oh my god i hope somebody isn't coming punish you well what's crazy
is that guy the re the
real grab the pussy billy bush didn't really do anything he was there yeah he
he kind of was a
scapegoat in the end god bless him i mean i think he was just trying to be conciliatory
as a tv host you
know and he got yeah he got he lost his job no yes yeah and he was sitting next
to you know this gigantic
tycoon billionaire character this flamboyant boisterous sort of a guy who was
going on his
usual flamboyant boisterous tirades he probably felt like it was funny you know
listen to this guy did
to be fair but yeah boy did he have to pay the price and my husband too by
default but it's funny that you
know your husband would get hate from it or that that guy would get hate from
people seem to be like
looking for people to get mad at well i think we're all mad right that the hope
the world is currently
angry and we don't really know why but we get fed a lot of negative information
and i don't know if
the human brain knows how to cope with it so it's very early on and this sort
of technological revolution
so to speak and i don't think our brains have quite caught up with how much bad
news we're absorbing on
a daily basis and so i think yeah i think people are angry and upset and they
don't know what to
do with it and and there's certain figures that attract that you know that kind
of rage or wrath and
they people use these people as hot rods for their own i don't know chaos in
their brains yeah no i
think you just nailed it i think that's absolutely it we've been talking about
it a bunch lately that
there's just too many people there's seven billion people and to get all the
information especially
the bad information from seven billion people it's unmanageable it's intense
yeah i mean yeah well
said it's just crazy you flick through twitter you flick through instagram or
look on facebook every
single thing from every corner of the globe is you're hearing bad news you know
that's all you want
to hear because like if you well the good news is not news no you know it's
like everybody got it going
great today yeah that's not a story you can't sell that yeah i i it's going to
be really curious as to
see where the human race goes and how we do manage with all this information
because even if you stand
up for a cause like you know like today i was i i did a post about um for amnesty
international who's
standing up for the turkish journalists who are who are all imprisoned for just
doing their jobs
and so you stand up for that cause because i feel very strongly in a free press
and you you just
becoming inundated with people saying well what about venezuela and they have
their legitimate concerns
about what's going on in their country right about the women in argentina you
know and so on so forth
in brazil and mexico and it's just i just don't even know what to do with all
the information yeah that
is a part of the problem too is that people expect you to comment on every
single thing and if you
comment on one thing especially if you comment on one funny silly thing they'll
say well what about
this how can we not talk about this terrible thing that's happening i know it's
almost like you you
have a responsibility to alert people of your state of consciousness at every
step of the day every
second of the day i could i could definitely do that could you no not even i
could do that just with
emojis yeah just emojis i feel like emojis are the future i've been thinking a
lot about this i think
emojis i mean who said this i think was it eddie bravo that compared them to
hieroglyphs you it was
jamie it was jamie ye