Name: Joe Rogan Experience #956 - Guy Ritchie
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #956 - Guy Ritchie' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2017-05-05. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #956 - Guy Ritchie

boom yes boom we're live what's up brother how are you man how are you Joe you
got a little pocket
hanky there get the whole deal well I tell you I'll tell you why I wear a
pocket square please
because if you don't wear a pocket square you have the appearance that you've
been squeezed
into a sports jacket or a suit for conventional reasons that your mom put you
in there or you're
off to church or something we go into the office right as soon as you put a
pocket square in there
you own the jacket it's your idea not someone else's idea whoo dude you're
thinking several
steps ahead I like it we're gonna get into this aren't we Joe we are gonna get
into this well
we're talking before the podcast about these press junkets and about how you
entertain yourself
by forcing yourself to use a certain word yeah the danger the the worst thing
in the film business is
press junkets and as you were saying they're rather ineffective and that's my
suspicion too
they're not they're also inefficient and ineffective because you sit in chair
someone comes in and they
ask you a question why how how good an actor is David Beckham when he's in
underpants or whatever
it is and you answer it in some facile fashion and on the fourth time you
answer answer that question
you're starting to swap flies that aren't there you're starting to go mad so
what happens is you
have to play games with yourself so you get someone on the side to throw
different words at you like
valetudinarian or verisimilitude and then that keeps you occupied because you're
thinking when someone
asked me about Beckham in his underpants I've somehow got a stick in a verisimilitude
and I'd say it's not
easy and your answers become very creative well did they ask someone to be
sincere and ask the same
questions over and over and over again to them like to have people keep filing
in and a new person comes
in and ask the same so tell us about this film and how did this get started and
so who whose idea was
it and so um I saw a film John Ballman made Excalibur in about 1980 and I was
an impressionable young
man of 10 and it was the first like knights in shining armor film that ever
spoke to me I wasn't
particularly interested in Errol Flynn uh or any incarnation that they did in
the 50s uh in this
genre but John Ballman's one was rather good it's very aggressive and no one
spoke to uh one another
they all shouted at one another so it took some time before you realize that's
why it was so intense
um it's quite camp so it had this sort of weird juxtaposition of being camp yet
simultaneously
aggressive and you know they had a budget of 25 and no visual effects and lots
of very shiny 19th
century armor and it made a real impression on me because it was it was a voice
it was a creative
voice so I it made an impression on me and then somewhere in the attic of my
mind I really
relegated it until the point where I had enough creative ideas in my reservoir
to bring it
forward to make a film and then someone gave me money and Warner Brothers
wanted to make it and
yada yada yada and then it was the challenge I suppose of trying to take a sojourn
into this
world the fantasy epic fantasy medievally lord of the ringsy kind of a world
and it's completely out
of my wheelhouse so I find the challenge provocative and exciting as well that's
it's a fascinating era like or a genre you know that fascinating world of the
fantasy you know knights
and swords and bows and arrows and that that realm for whatever reason has been
like intoxicating to
people for a long time yeah it's an archetype so you're interested in firemen
you're interested in
nurses um you're interested in the superheroes obviously I mean arguably Arthur
was the first
superhero because he's the guy that extracts the sword and his galloper can do
all sorts of wondrous
things and this myth is 1200 years old 1400 years old and it's as relevant
today as it was then
but because it's an archetype that somehow kids either dress up as firemen
police men soldiers or knights
so we it's almost like we relived it it's like an outfit that we wore 1200
years ago so you feel familiar
in it hmm it's just it's fascinating that that one genre that one sort of
archetype is just locked into
the psyche of people yeah it's it's there isn't it the other thing about it
which is quite fun is you can take
these kind of mystical rides into metaphor so you can symbolize things with 300
for elephants which you
can't do in some version of a realistic world so it becomes you have broad
poetic license to take liberties
are you using cgi in this movie a lot of it yeah wow what's that like um boring
but creative um it's
three years to make this movie i'm used to making movies that take three months
to write three three
years three years wow three months to write from beginning to end something
like snatch was three
months six weeks to shoot two months to edit so snatch was three months to do
the whole thing or to write
it that to write it and to shoot it the whole thing from the beginning to the
way beginning to the end of
six months oh wow and then three months say for editing so you're wrapped and
packed in nine months ten
months so this is a totally different kind of commitment as far as your mind
and yeah if i really knew
what i was getting into i would have asked for double bubble on the salary
because you thought i think
it's gonna be a year and a half it's not it's three years like when you plan a
movie like there's a big
epic movie do you have uh an actual schedule of when you think it's going to
begin and when it's going
to end or do you do but you know the terrain of filmmaking has changed
exponentially like everything
like with technology so what was pertinent last year is not pertinent this year
so release dates are a
real dog so we had a release date which was projected a couple of years from
when you start the movie so
they go right here's a check make a movie you're coming out in it was we were
supposed to come out
exactly a year ago but then what happens is if you're not a branded movie you
get elbowed off that date
you know star wars or something will come along and then you're not going to
compete with star wars so
you've got to move because you can't compete so you've got a very crowded
market with lots of brands
now this isn't something that we used to have suffer because everyone was equal
going into the
equation you give yourself the advantage of having a movie star or something
but that doesn't exist
anymore what exists now is the brand is the big brother so he comes muscling
and bullies his way into a
weekend and that's why you can't really get new films breaking through because
those occupy those weekends
are already occupied so trying to break through is a real real struggle we had
to wait a year for a
date and the date that we're coming out on is one weekend after guardians now
guardians will be a vast
hit and it's very dangerous being within the parameters of a of a big movie
that's a really interesting
thing that only movies have to go through these days right i mean it's one of
the rare things where
people are getting out and going to see something that's been made together in
a group you know that
you're you're watching media like it's not a live performance it's something
that's been created and
it's going to press play at 8 p.m on friday night and everybody's going to go
to see it and you got to
get as many of those people together as you can it's one of the rare things
like that yeah and it's becoming
more polarized so it means more now so you're opening weekend everything's
about they know what you're
going to make by thursday evening right right you're coming you're supposed to
be coming out on friday
and everyone knows what you're going to make by sunday night on a thursday
evening there's enough
clever people out there tapping into clever little boxes and computer says and
they're seldom wrong
now that never used to be the case you used to come out and the films would get
discovered you
used to a little platform you start small go big that sort of nonsense now you
just got to come out
ball swinging and if you don't come out ball swinging people get very upset and
they think that this is
a failure it hasn't lived up to expectations even if it's a creative success
yeah nobody likes it it's
well you know there's a bit of that you know there's there is an acceptance if
a movie's good the movie's
good and movies find their own way usually in the end anyway but the financial
aspect has become
polarized it's too significant uh of a component in the equation because it
should you know it's an art
form right in the end of the day it's entertainment and an art form and somehow
you want to unify
reconcile that so because they're essentially different reconcile those put it
in a nice little package
so you put in a a pill with a sweet wrapper around it and then you've got both
and then you should be happy you should have the substance and you should have
the flavor
um but then now the focus is all on the flavor and not on the substance and
that's result orientated
so your movie comes out they go what it make right slow down son what's the
movie like
the question first of all should be what's the movie like rather than what did
it make
and it it's just it's become too competitive and too comparative financially
and i love a dollar bill
and i like things that's successful but it has to be secondary to what's
primary and primary is
what's it like creatively well a film like no not to on it but fast and the
furious
all i heard about was how much money it made that's all you hear it's like the
big story the
big fast the furious opening box office hundreds of millions of dollars all you
see is like it's
going to make a billion dollars why do you give a fuck why does anybody who's
watching that give a
fuck you're not going to get any of that money why is it so appealing that this
movie has made a billion
dollars because it's comparative and it's competitive yeah and it's why to
people in the audience
because it's voyeuristic voyeuristic yeah so you can it's like spectator sport
who's the winner right
you don't do you really care about how they won you just care about the fact
that they did win
or like a floyd mayweather you want to find out how much money he made he made
200 million dollars
that fight people get excited about it's an extra element yeah there is a sort
of um vicarious
life that people can have through sports stars celebrities and success if they
feel somehow
related to or they went on the opening weekend or they are invested in then if
it's successful then
somehow proliferately i'm successful yeah that gets weird right does get weird
yeah it's the business of
movies is a very very strange business because you're you're a creative
business but you're also a business
enterprise i mean you're you're a financial business and when it when it's a
guy like you
like your movies have a certain flavor you know like you start off with lock
stock and two smoking
barrels like that movie has a flavor to it and then your other films like
people want to go to see that
kind of flavor from your film do you feel like pressure in that regard like to
live up to those
expectations or to conform to these ideas that people have of your movies yes
and no
yes and no okay it depends what mood you catch me in right um i like what i do
and i'm going to do it
anyway i just like it very much when people pay me to do it and give me the
money to go and do it
so i don't mind the financial aspect of it i don't mind films having to compete
i what i'm what i'm
after is a reconciliation and as i say the the primary component should be on
the quality of the work
that should be what's primary but i don't begrudge films being successful i
like them to be successful
i like the competitive element but sometimes when you're talking with
executives you realize
mate your priorities are on the wrong thing here in the end it is a creativ