Name: Joe Rogan Experience #962 - Jocko Willink
Uploaded: 2017-05-19T00:22:44.000Z
Description: Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #962 - Jocko Willink' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2017-05-19. Transcript available.

Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #962 - Jocko Willink' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2017-05-19. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #962 - Jocko Willink

four three two welcome back jocko what's happening baby it's good to be here it's
good to see you
man we were just talking about chris cornell we uh found out last night at the
comedy store
that he died and then this morning found out that he hung himself just
fuck it's it's hard to even comprehend how do you comprehend that i'm i'm
living in a parallel
universe doesn't make any sense like how could someone like you know it's easy
on the outside
looking in a guy like that but you're like that guy was one of the best ever
like how does a guy
like that even want to kill himself how does the lead singer of sound garden to
me it just really
kind of reveals the complexities of human life yeah exactly what you're saying
to have a guy that is at
the pinnacle of his skill the pinnacle of fame the pinnacle of money and and
for him to say you know
what not going to do it anymore yeah i don't i don't know what was going on in
his head obviously
who knows if he was on medication if he had some sort of an issue a health
issue who knows i mean
i would never speculate but it just i don't understand i mean again i don't
know his life but
i couldn't even comprehend i can't even imagine it well that's that's one of
the really hard things
when you start talking about suicide for people that for someone like me and i
i haven't had
suicidal thoughts right so when you when you go from that to somebody that not
only has the thoughts
but then goes ahead and executes it it's very hard to comprehend yeah i've met
people that have
done it before i've met i've had a few friends that have done it i just have
never understood it i don't
get it but i don't know them you know i mean everybody's got their own unique
mindset and it's
just you you know what's really crazy man i've read the statistic the other day
about suicide
um that people in poor neighborhoods are far less likely to kill themselves
people that are in the
struggle yeah well i actually believe that because they're fighting for
something yeah and someone
that's already got everything and then they're they end up with no drive with
no goal and nothing left
to achieve and so then all of a sudden they're just staring at the mirror
without anywhere else to go
you know and i'm not talking about chris cornell in in particular but for some
people i know uh
one of the things that happens is that when they become very successful and
they're still not happy
then they get hopeless they just feel like well i have everything and yet i'm
miserable you know i have
a nice big house i drive this fancy car and i still am miserable like there's
no hope like this life is
meaningless i don't even know what to say to that i don't know what to say to
be honest with you when you
you hear you hear that and you just don't even know what to what to say to that
you know one thing that
why i don't understand it i like struggle i like it i think it's important yeah
no there's no doubt
about that there's no doubt about having something that you're striving for
some goal and like you just
said when all those goals have been achieved and now you're sitting there at
the top of the mountain
and you now you don't feel happy what do you do just pick up a hobby man find
something you suck at and
get better at it i mean that seems so simplistic but um you know i just you and
i are we share this uh
this very important uh part of our lives which is uh intense exercise indeed
and i think that you know
i go to your instagram almost every day to look at your watch it's hilarious if
you go to jocko's
instagram it's a fucking timex watch advertisement it's all just that iron man
watch with 4 30 in
the morning the occasional 3 30 this motherfucker's up at 3 30 and you know and
you working out like like
that's his fucking hairy gorilla arm and a timex iron man triathlon watch but
that's what's up man that's
what's up i mean just fucking doing it getting out there and struggling and
then once you do do that
here's the thing like you know like a friend of mine said that he's like uh i
was uh i was saying
something about you coming on the podcast and he goes can that dude take
another picture of his
fucking watch i go i hope he takes a picture of his watch every day until he
dies i go it's important
it's important it's it's it's sort of in a lot of ways it's symbolic of what we're
talking about
like no it's not fun to look at your watch every day but you're fucking doing
it every day
like that's what's important yeah and i actually early on i had someone you
know say something along
the lines of on social media on instagram or on twitter you know oh you're just
going to post
another picture you're watching i was like unfollow me like just don't follow
me it's no big deal i'm
not making you do it and and now it is kind of turned into something where i'm
i'm doing it every
day regardless of anything else in the world yeah them i like looking at your
watch i want to know
when i get up at seven and i think i'm getting up early you've been up for
hours and you're already
done working out i like it i think it's uh you know it's but it is in a lot of
ways it is it's
symbolic of what we're talking about it's the struggle yeah and you know you
know who doesn't complain
about it and i always make this point too there's like a a single mom somewhere
in the valley here
that's working three jobs that's getting up at 3 30 in the morning so she can
go work as a waitress
somewhere before she's got her other day job that she's got to go through so
she can feed her kids
yeah i get up almost as a luxury at this point i mean you know i'm a retired
guy from the from the
military so i can kind of get up whenever i want right i get up early as a
luxury sort of but you also
get up because that's who you are yeah and i get up because it is it is a way
to maintain discipline
in life for sure to get that stone out and sharpen that blade every morning it's
the grind that sharpens
the axe indeed there's no other way there's no other way and i don't want to
say that this would have
saved chris cornell or anybody else that did it i'm not saying that but i mean
for some people out
there that aren't feeling good man if you just struggled more you get over that
struggle you feel
better it sounds so simplistic but i swear by it yeah i felt shitty myself and
then forced myself to work
out and after i get out of there i'm like whoa 100 it's a 100 guarantee and you
know actually i had i
you know i had tim ferris come on my podcast and when he came on he was like
hey i don't know if i'm
the right kind of guest for your podcast because you know my podcast is like
about war and death and
killing and all that stuff and so you know tim's are about being better and
stuff like that so it's
easy you raise your voice yeah i mean that's what it is right tim's tim's
podcast is about improving
yourself and mine is about war and genocide and horrible things and he said to
me you know hey i don't know if
if i come on the podcast but you know maybe i'm not the right type of guest or
whatever and i and i
wrote back to him and i said hey man you know you've been through some dark
stuff in your life because
he wrote a blog post years ago about him being suicidal and him contemplating
and planning to commit
suicide this is tim ferris did he really yeah he went through full motions you
know typical tim ferris
methodology what did he do he went to the library and got out a bunch of books
on killing yourself and
then did the research on how he was going to do it and planned it all and then
when was this how long
ago he was going he was like just done with college and so i mean what is that
what is he 35 or
something so maybe it's 20 15 years ago jesus christ and he was under all this
pressure you know he was
an ivy league guy and he was trying to finish school but then it wasn't working
out and it was just
problematic and so he started saying to himself okay well how am i getting out
of this well there's one way to
get out of it and luckily he didn't do it but when he came on you know that's
what we talked about and
what he said you know as he was making recommendations from again from a guy
who's been there was like hey if
if you're trapped in your in your mind and you're starting to feel that way go
do something physical
get in your body get out of your mind the same thing you're saying when you're
feeling bad when
you're feeling down go out and swing a kettlebell around and you will feel
better yeah this is just too
much for some people especially they're just experiencing way too much pressure
and that that
pressure a lot of times it's just an imbalance in perspective and some of it's
like i was talking
to this mom once uh her daughter uh does gymnastics with my daughter and we
were talking about um kids
killing themselves where she used to live she used to live in um one of the
really wealthy tech areas
outside of san francisco and a bunch of kids that went to school with her
daughter that were like 15 16
were jumping off bridges and shit like it was a like an epidemic and they were
trying to figure out
what the is going on and they're literally calling it affluenza that these affluent
kids and their
their families are literally worth a billion dollars you know i mean everybody's
super rich and they're
having this insane pressure like before high school and in high school to be in
ivy league schools and to get
4.0s and all and they're not having any fun and they're not experiencing life
and they don't have any
hope and their parents are all on pills and they're just killing themselves
yeah and and as you said it
really is a piece of perspective because if you think about think about some
when you watch one of your
buddies go down the downward spiral maybe it's not to suicide but whether it's
drug addiction a lot of
times some female the girlfriend the ex-wife will just take them on the the
downward spiral and there's
there they can't get out of it and if they were to step back if they were if it
was you and your buddy
watching one of your other friends go down the spot they go oh my god i can't
believe he's doing that that's
crazy but when you're in that spiral people get caught in that and they can't
they can't get the
perspective of what it looks like from the outside yeah it's hard for people to
break momentum too
momentum that's good momentum or momentum that's bad momentum when i get uh
like when i get on a good
groove or working out all the time i feel it like after i'm done working out i'm
like yeah i can't wait
to get in there again i can't wait to work out again that's the good momentum
but then there's that
bad momentum like you get injured or something like that and you can't do
anything for a couple weeks and then
to try to get that kick start that meant motor up again it's the it's hard to
get momentum yeah and i've
i've caught some some flack for saying there was these big science experiments
or something and they
and they said that willpower dissipates throughout the day and and the more
decisions you have to make
the weaker you get throughout the day and i i think that's bs i agree with what
you're saying which is
when you wake up in the morning you get a good workout you don't lose willpower
you actually build it you
feel better you feel stronger and then at lunchtime you you're not saying hey
where's the pizza and
where's the donuts no at lunchtime you already worked out you feel good you're
like hey where's the
where's the steak where's the protein um and and that carries throughout the
day as opposed to exactly
what you're saying which is when you sleep in you skip your workout all of a
sudden the donuts are
starting to look pretty good and then the next thing you know it's pizza and
then when you get home at
night you're just watching tv and that can continue on for days and then days
turn into weeks and then the next
thing you know you're fattened out of shape yeah and then on top of that if
they did do that study
like 