Name: Joe Rogan Experience #996 - Dr. Andy Galpin
Uploaded: 2017-08-10T00:14:49.000Z
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #996 - Dr. Andy Galpin' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2017-08-10. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #996 - Dr. Andy Galpin

yes and we're live what's up man how are you fantastic thanks for doing this
appreciate it
appreciate you let me come up so uh why don't you tell people what you do uh i
am a muscle
physiologist so i'm a phd in human bioenergetics and i'm the director for the
center for sport
performance which all that basically means i study muscle physiology why it
grows shrinks
repairs dies and all that crap now when you're you're dealing with athletes and
you're dealing
with like state-of-the-art performance how much does that stuff change like
year to year like
protocols like what people used to think was the way to go what's the new way
to go well if you take
a look or if you examine just the idea of science in general it's the
understanding that we're wrong
that's literally what science is if we knew what the answer was we wouldn't
look into it like what's
the point of doing a study if we know the answer right so by definition we're
always evolving in
that sense but it's quite funny how the central tenants are really not that
different you take
nutrition you take training the vast majority of those things are similar to
what they were 20 30 80
100 years ago so the bulk of it what matters for the bulk of athletes is fairly
standard what where it
differs is the last few percentage points it's getting us that last 10 gains or
being very specific so you
on a personal level need this little bit of difference and then you need this
tiny bit of
difference but the bulk of it really is not that different well when you watch
in uh mma fighters
in particular you see so many different methods i mean so many different ways
to approach things
and i never know who's right you know it really depends upon who's successful
and then you go well
that guy obviously has it down yeah that's a major fallacy called the fallacy
of authority
so or appeal to authority which is somebody really good did it or somebody who
coaches somebody
good they did it right or a lot of people did it all three of those are
examples of major logical
fallacies right to break down in aristotle's reasoning that's not what we do
now they can
help us with some ideas of where to go but that's a really bad approach so we
have to understand like
what works for somebody at a very high level is not necessarily going to work
for the bulk of people
and particular if like the great example is is schwarzenegger so when he came
out with his book of the
encyclopedia of bodybuilding everyone was like fantastic i'll go do those
workouts
look you're not arnold and it you should be doing what arnold did when he was
at your stage
not at his stage well also he's doing a bucket of steroids well that too right
that's a big factor
like if especially back in those days they didn't come clean about that stuff
no so guys are like
hey how come my biceps are ripping off the bone right you know or how come it's
not working for me
yeah yeah so so all that is is really important to understand um with the
context of recovery the
nutrition he has all the other stresses that are eliminated from his life all
of that changes what's
going to work or not work for you now there's a bunch of different ways of
approaching things like
i've always been fascinated by the marv marinovich method and now nick kurson
takes that method as well
and their idea is that strength and conditioning is especially when a fighter's
in camp is more important
than anything more important even than skill work right because you already
know how to fight just so
strength and conditioning should take precedent get all that done to so get
your body to the point
where you have the most horsepower the biggest gas tank the best tires you know
the best handling
and then you already know how to fight so just approach it that way yeah so the
the guy that actually
trained marv michael yesis is a fullerton guy oh it's cal state fullerton so he
was the the sign
yesis yeah that's his name yeah y-e-s-s russian name ah he's awesome he's like
85 now or something
and if you want to get massively entertained by somebody like he's a good one
yeah because he's
just very opinionated but nonetheless uh yeah that that is i think an important
one if you look at joel
jameson a friend of mine who trains demetrius johnson like all those guys they
have very different
approaches and i don't i think the massive fallacy this actually goes back to
your original question is
thinking that there is one single answer that's the problem right whether we're
talking training
nutrition recovery ice any of these modalities the the major reason we have so
much internet
fighting between experts and why it makes it so difficult for so many people to
figure out like
what's the right answer is because searching for a right answer is the problem
to begin with we're
having the wrong conversation with all of this crap it's not the right place to
go so those are two
very different approaches for demetrius they reduce a lot of the strength
conditioning they do during camp
because they want to get very good with the train with the fighting so all that
stuff is gone so joel
believes in training as much as we can prior to camp and then in camp it's time
to get better at
fighting hmm someone like nick is apparently has the opposite approach yeah i
don't think that either one
of them is more or letter less effective than the other it really comes down to
the combination of
coaches as well as the athlete so some athletes and you could attest to this
and i've seen this a
bunch of times if they're two days out three days out a week out some of them
get really anxious if
they don't get to practice this skill like i want to be really sharp with my
combinations i want to
be really good with my transitions etc and if you take that away from them they
get very anxious and they
don't like it hmm and so what you almost have to do is program it based on this
combination of
physiology and psychology and that's a bit outside of my realm but this is what
makes coaching so
complicated is saying okay well you know what for you athlete one you're going
to do the opposite
approach athlete two you're going to be doing the other approach because you
just don't feel as good
you're not as confident you're not feeling as smooth and and more than anything
when they walk down to
that cage or particularly two or three days before they have to feel amazing
yeah you have to have
that combination yeah it is weird that like there is no answer no you know like
there's one like a mark
hunt is going to have a completely different set of requirements than you know
uh derrick lewis or a
mighty mouse johnson or anybody so like everybody's got different needs and and
everybody's coming to the
table with a different set of skills and a different set of problems especially
when you look at
experience too so what worked for you when your second fight when you were 20
is maybe not the
same approach you have to take when you're 30. I just I just got back from New
York um I was in
there the last three days and I was with one of my guys Dennis Bermudez and we
had this conversation
and when I first started working with him we had to take a very different
approach the week of and
especially even you know the hour before the fight because the way that he got
ramped up for a fight
is very different than some other people that I've worked with what we had to
realize and I remember he
called me right after um one of his recent fights uh maybe four or five fights
ago and he's like I'm
freaking out because I didn't freak out in the cage this time we were I was
like what and he's like
you know I'm usually like really freaked out in the cage and this is what
drives my performance but
this time I was really calm and collected and I saw everything and I'm nervous
that I'm not nervous
enough so I had to get him in with with my good friend Lenny Weirzmo who's a
sports psychologist
who works with a lot of combat sport athletes and say okay we need to get you
in a place of optimal
arousal because if you're under aroused that's a problem but if you're over aroused
that's a problem
as well so we had to change the tactics a little bit between everything from
his walk down to the
week of before the queuing the things that we say to him to make sure he's in
an optimal state
every other out that he worked like all those approaches are completely
different we can't have the same
thing how do you train a guy to do his walk down oh this there's a lot we can
do really oh yeah and
I'm not sports psychologist so I don't go too much you know what they do
absolutely everything from
breathing drills right to the the queuing the words you use so for example in
the back if if you're a
Dennis Bermudez five years ago you know Ryan Parsons would have to say like
real vile horrible shit like
rip his fucking head off I want you to bring it back in a plate like murder him
rip him to shreds that
works for some guys for Dennis at that point at that point not anymore right
now it's a little bit
different approach and Ryan could tell you the details of what he does now but
some guys like
you tell some other people that backstage are gonna be like what huh like don't
don't say that just
like right tell me what to focus on remind me my cues and my timing and so the
guys that are too ramped
up they're very specific breathing drills for example we can have them do as
they're walking down the
cage as they're in the cage especially if they're the first one down or the
second one down so if
their first down sometimes that's a 10 minute delay between when they're
standing in the cage and when
they actually start throwing right if you're not taking advantage of that time
or if that time is
getting taken advantage of you that can have a real problem with your energy
and especially if you get
a guy who's really savvy like a Connor or a John Jones who takes their time
coming down and they mess with
you they do different things on the way down that really influences what's
going on with the guy in the
cage especially if they're less experienced or maybe a touch the underdog or
other things like that so
that can all be we be messed with now a guy like Dennis Permanis is a good
example right you're working
with him he's obviously a world-class fighter yeah but he always seems to fall
just short on these big
fights yeah there's you know this is where it's outside of my expertise I'm a
muscle physiologist not a
psychologist right but with his last performance so there's against Darren Elkins
yeah who's a
really tough guy very awkward really just blood and guts type of fighter but
that was a good matchup
very good fight yeah good matchup skill-wise it should on paper should be a
good matchup it should
have favored Dennis in a lot of race well there's no way to beat around that I
feel like two things are
happening in that fight one I feel like Darren Elkins is getting better for
sure and he was very super
motivated and energized by his performance over Mursad Bektik which is amazing
yeah that was incredible
crazy yeah so but a lot of people felt like he was the favorite that Dennis was
the favorite going into
that fight yeah on paper clearly he was um from a lot of vantage points but it's
really difficult um
you know without telling too much of Dennis's story for him it was it's quite
funny what happens with
the game plan sometimes and what happens when they get in there even with the
seasoned guy like Dennis and
I don't know if a part of that was because it was in New York and Dennis's
hometown or if that was
because of Pat who's a good friend fought right before and won a really you
know crazy fight in the
fight before if he saw that you just don't know what goes in and then you know
sometimes like in the
middle of a fight you're like the fight's over and you're like I don't even
know why we did that
like I just we got into this weird rhythm thing and we started doing this and
that was I don't know what
happened and that the rhythm can kind of 