Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1031 - Jamie Kilstein
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1031 - Jamie Kilstein' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2017-10-30. Transcript available. Jamie Kilstein is a writer, radio host, and stand up comic.

Joe Rogan Experience #1031 - Jamie Kilstein

welcome back to civilization jamie kilstein hi dude um so a lot has changed
since the last time
we spoke yeah and uh for people who don't know you used to be uh the host of or
one of the co-hosts
of citizen radio like super progressive lefty podcast and you were a vegan but
now you ate a
steak with stanhope all hell's broken loose oh i don't know what's happening i
don't know where i
am yeah i i remember i was thinking about like being back in the studio and uh
i never met jamie
before and i was like all right everyone's being really nice to me i'm like
literally feel like i'm
like this isn't this isn't a trick joe sent me very nice emails and i'm like
but i'm a very trickable
guy uh and i came in and yeah everyone's just lovely and nice uh yeah man uh a
lot of change i
went into hiding uh i went into hiding what happened because i only got like a
peripheral
story of like what what went sideways all right like some people girls accused
you well yeah that
this is look this is the fucking worst time for me to be like you know what now
that everyone's
talking about weinstein's time for kilstein to make his return weinstein kilstein
it's too similar i like
wrote yeah it's like very like jewy and predatory uh when i wrote i wrote stanhope
uh when the weinstein thing happened i was like hey man you want to like push
off this return he's
like you're fine uh yeah so here's what happened so uh it kind of started where
i was a comic uh for
years and you know as it got more progressive um it it got more into that
judgmental territory i guess
where you know i feel like i definitely became one of those people who would
just be on twitter all day
and instead of sort of talking about real issues it just becomes like who are
we mad at that day
like who used the wrong word that day who can we get fired that day yeah and it's
twitter mob stuff
and it happens on the right and happens on the left um it's just like kind of
just people who are sad
who just live like in their box which i was like one of them right that's why i
think this is such
an important conversation because because you've kind of stepped away from it
and you see it for what
it is i think people don't realize it when they're caught up in the swirl of it
the momentum of it
that it's almost like a natural human behavior pattern it's very tribal yeah
well it's tribal and it's um
physically addictive um you know like i've like gone back and forth with like
drinking and and not
drinking and pot and and not smoking pot and i can tell you that the thing i
was addicted to the most
was twitter it was refreshing twitter it was like you literally get dopamine
hits from that like i
remember when i first tried to get off twitter i like i was fighting with some
fucking stranger uh
in my living room on twitter and i was like you know what fuck this i'm gonna
go take a walk i don't
need uh i don't need to be involved in this guy's life i closed it and before i
even knew it i'm like
walking in the park fighting with some other guy on my fucking phone and i'm
like it follows you
like if someone's calling you a cunt they're calling you a cunt at dinner with
your girlfriend
they're calling you a cunt when you go to like uh your brother's graduation and
you're just like
refreshing it waiting for someone to tell you that you're good um and sort of
so that i got addicted
to that um more than anything and especially when i finally got an audience um
with like the left of
left um i mean just to be very clear uh it's not like i'm gonna come on this
show and suddenly like
do a fucking sean michaels heel turn and be like i'm johnny rape joke those
fucking bitches all had
it coming um you're just being a person well and that's what i like wasn't
doing for a very long
time is i feel like i don't want to speak for people but i feel like with me i
always needed
something to like define me right where it's like i'm a progressive or i'm a i'm
a vegan or i'm just
jujitsu and whatever i whatever i would become kind of currently obsessed with
i would sort of like
throw the other shit away and kind of like shit all over that um because you
know a lot of times i
would feel like a failure like that's really where the progressive um i mean i
still hold a lot of
progressive ideas but that's when i went from comic to um political it wasn't
that i like
wanted to make comedy my my like nemesis right it was that oh i felt i feel
like i i failed um you
know i dropped out of school to start a comedy at like 17 and i did the things
you're supposed to do
um and yeah i did montreal a couple times and uh conan once uh and i had this
year where it seemed
like things were going to happen and then you know i was kind of that guy that
people were like
oh we like you we can't do anything with you but we like you and so i started
to kind of make my own
audience and the audience was fucking great it was like a bunch of you know
when that show started
it was a bunch of just weird um sweet nerdy comedy fans and then everything
just started getting
pushed uh to to crazyville like when i knew shit i said this on doug's podcast
when i knew shit got
nuts is when i was defending a trans person so already like a left issue like i'm
doing the right
thing right and i called this transphobic guy an idiot and we get an email that
said uh while we
appreciate you using uh defending trans people the word idiot is ableist and i
wanted to be like
you're retarded you're a retarded kind of explain ableist for people people
ableist is making fun
of people i don't know i don't know what it means anymore i thought ableist was
just like that guy's
in a wheelchair fuck him but i guess like all these different terms these
everyday terms like i guess
idiot is ableist because fucking i don't know there was an idiot in a
wheelchair no no no it's ableist
because if you're not an idiot if your brain works well you're mocking someone
whose brain doesn't work
well they are not able to think correct oh okay so you're an ableist joe you
just out progressived
me well i'm pretty progressive believe it or not i mean i i look like a meathead
and i espouse some
right-wing ideas but when it comes to like social issues i'm very progressive
that's why we became
friends you saw a gay rights thing i did on twitter yeah like you weren't that's
why um but i but i
what i saw happening i don't mean to interrupt you but what i saw happening
with you and what i see
happening just in general online you know i mean i was on citizens radio when
you guys first started
yeah you were on our poster yeah but i think there's something that happened
where people around
the time of occupy wall street things got really heated up yeah and people
started moving way left
and then some folks started moving way right and i really truly believe to this
day the way left
is what started the whole trump movement it's in response to the way left i
think all these shitheads
got together and they didn't like being accused of being assholes or ableists
or rapists or whatever
it is by the ultra progressives so they went far right and alt-right i mean the
the alt-right essentially
was people who didn't identify with these old men who were bankers but they
also didn't want to have
anything to do with these ultra lefty progressives that were calling everyone a
racist everyone a
rapist every man's a piece of shit oh i i i did all of that yeah i straight up
did all that and i think
one of the things with the the ultra left and maybe this is me like uh you know
maybe this is me
desperately trying to defend myself but i think in a weird way it was harder
for me and it's harder
for a lot of people to uh see themselves slipping into the extreme left and so
like what i mean by
that is i never thought when i heard people say the extreme right is as is as
bad as the extreme
left i was always like fuck you because like the extreme left isn't like you
know bombing palestine
being like give us free health care or like let trans people piss in the right
bathroom like
you know uh even that like uh the shooter not in vegas but that dc shooter like
he was like
a crazy guy he wasn't uh ableist i'm sorry he wasn't like shooting the
politicians screaming like
you know i mean he liked the bernie sanders page but it wasn't like we are
launching uh wars against
islam for uh christianity it wasn't um you know uh what we're doing this for
for free market capitalism
it was to me the extreme left when i heard people say it and the reason i would
scoff
when someone like you would say it is because i'm like dude like the left
should just be like
stand for like equality everyone has the right to an education everyone has the
right um to not go
fucking hungry um to have health insurance um gay people can do whatever they
want with their dicks um
the end bye-bye and vaginas and vaginas it really should be essentially like
that on both sides
the right what what being a conservative used to be with small government and
people having the
government stay out of your lives and they do the opposite morphing totally
where it's like we will
stay out of your lives but we'll be like in your if you want a fucking abortion
we'll uh tell you like
whose dick you can suck abortion thing is where it gets real squirrely right
because the abortion thing
is essentially it's a religious thing and it's a religious thing it's it's a
moral thing and it's
it's also what is an abortion i mean you are ending a life but you're ending a
life inside a woman's
body well when is it okay to do that is it okay to do that one day and does the
grown woman's life
matter more than the cells or more than well yeah that gets to a point but
initially it's like when
is it defined as a life i mean if if the moment of conception if that moment if
30 seconds later
it's an abortion right like if you could hold your breath and then the baby's
dead you know like if
we found out that the moment a guy comes in a woman if she could just hold her
breath for a minute
the baby will die yeah i mean is that why does that sound worse baby murder but
but it is look
abortion is weird right and i'm i'm pro-choice yeah but abortion is weird
because like when you when it
gets older when you're four weeks in six weeks in it's still legal and it's a
little baby i mean it is
a little baby look man look at it it's it looks like a little baby sometimes
they have a heartbeat if
it gets to a certain age yeah what's going on like i i'm not saying that it
should be my choice to
define whether or not someone should do it or not do it but it's very disingenuous
when people frame
this argument as it's a woman's right to choose period and that's what it is it's
not just that yeah
it's also killing a baby i don't know man feminists don't like me anymore so i'm
like coat hanger up
i'm out of this debate i don't give a shit well it's it's a it's a it should be
an honest debate because
it is a very controversial and a very nuanced issue so it's not as simple as
you know the right
doesn't want a woman to choose and stay out of my body it's not just stay out
of your body it's like
what are we doing we're killing a baby that's in a woman's body at what age
should that be legal well
and i think that's the whole thing that we were talking about before with these
like echo chambers
where you know for the first time ever i've been listening to sort of like both
sides of issues um
first time ever i mean first time since recently yeah yeah well because like
you just again you the
majority of people like yeah i'll totally fess up sure like i didn't ask a lot
of follow-up questions
because your facebook feed is curated and your your twitter is all of your
friends and and for the
most part people you agree with and you know comedy was actually comedy now
like i've been listening
to like a ton of like backlogs of your shows because once i was just like oh he
doesn't hate me
i can listen to the show again great i never hated no i know i never hated and
so uh but i started
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