Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1050 - Dr. Shawn Baker
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1050 - Dr. Shawn Baker' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2017-12-08. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1050 - Dr. Shawn Baker

and we're live all right sean welcome aboard man thank you thanks for doing
this appreciate it
thanks for having me joe you're one of those guys that uh came up so many times
on twitter i had to
reach out to you so many people were like have you checked out what this guy's
doing he's eating
nothing but meat and he's a doctor he's super healthy i was like okay let me
check out what
this guy's doing and i saw you and i was like he's serious about this and i was
like okay this isn't
a gimmick you're actually an educated guy and um you you're pursuing this carnivore
diet yeah i mean
it's you know if you would ask pull this thing up close to you if you could
there you go if you
would have asked me two years ago i would have said that's fucking crazy i mean
i mean that's what i
would have said you know if you would have asked me even five years ago i'd say
yeah diet doesn't
really matter that much just train your ass off because i'd been an athlete
just training
my whole life and you know i didn't really until i got in my mid 40s and all of
a sudden i was like
crap training ain't working i'm getting fat i'm getting you know high blood
pressure you know
probably pre-diabetic and then i you know then i went down this you know this
dietary journey where
i went from you know doing the low fat uh low calorie fish and vegetables
almost vegetarian
training three day three times a day just about trying to try and get lean and
then i went down
to you know then i was like man this sucks i'm miserable you know i can't can't
can't maintain
this you know then i went on the paleo diet started looking i was like man
bacon looks pretty good
and then i went then i started reading some more then i went on to uh you know
low carb high fat
and then i did ketogenic for about two three years because i think you do stuff
like that too
and then i just started reading about these people that do this carnivore diet
and then i went started reading where'd you read about it well there's there's
actually a facebook
group it's called zeroing in on health there's a guy named charles washington
he's been doing about
10 years and so they got about 10 there's about 13 000 people's right people so
he's been exclusively
on a carnivorous diet for 10 years 10 years so no vegetables no carbs no
nothing nope i mean he
basically eats you know i think he eats steak and pork ribs and stuff like that
and there's another guy
i mean it's more impressive there's a guy named joe anderson and his wife sean
they've been doing
it for 20 years and then you know i could probably show you a picture of that
guy but he i mean he's
60 and he looks like he's 30 his wife is in his mid-40s and she looks like she's
25 i mean they're
i mean by all by looking at these people you're like they're crazy healthy you
know what happened
was she had lyme disease real bad and was kind of overweight and really sick
and he started doing
like the same stuff i was doing he's reading about these old school bodybuilders
you remember i don't
i remember i got him vince garanda so he promoted this steak and eggs diet back
in the 1950s 60s and
you know he was just jacked i mean he was like this is you know 1956 it was
kind of before most of
the steroid stuff was hitting you know i mean there were there were still some
steroids back in the
1940s you know the nazis played with that with the troops but you know it didn't
really get into the
bodybuilding culture till the probably the 60s you know and then the 70s not
you know not everywhere right
but he was doing this stuff and if you look up if you look up vince garanda and
look at his physique
from the 1940s 1950s he's freaking pretty amazing and he's just eating meat he
was you know his diet
was basically i think it was five days of just eating meat and eggs i was
taking eggs and then
every every one day like every fifth or sixth day you could eat you know
whatever so that's what that's
what he did so that was his diet so that's what he looked like back in 19 you
know that's probably
in the 50s you know so that's pretty decent for back then you know jacked well
i mean for for a
non-steroid guy i mean this is yeah and also taking into consideration how
little they really
knew about training back then yeah oh yeah they didn't know i mean if you go
back into history
well i'm going to talk about that but then there's a guy named larry scott who
was like the first
mr olympian he was another guy that was eating just tons of meat you know four
or five pounds of
meat a day and he won mr olympia and again you know there's some of their drug
use you know and some
of this stuff but i was just reading about this stuff and i was just like well
i'm you know i'm
an athlete i like trying this stuff and so i said well i'm just going to try it
for a month and so
i did it for a month and i was like man i feel pretty good right so i was like
well i'm gonna decide
it's like i did a month i'm like well i'm gonna go back and go back to my ketogenic
diet and so i
started where that day the day i did i was like i'm gonna eat some apples a
little almond butter you
know i had some berries and cream you know stuff you'd normally eat as a treat
and i just didn't feel as
good you know like my back started hurting a little bit and i was like well
maybe that's where someone
so then i went and said well i'm just gonna go back to eating meat again wait
your back started
hurting from eating apples well i mean it was just like you know this is one of
the things that i've
seen and we can talk about this you know in detail but i've seen a lot of
people what they'll say is
you know and this is what i saw you know when i was working as a surgeon when i
put people on a
ketogenic diet their joint pain was starting to go away right this is pretty
common a lot of people
believe that joint pain is connected to the consumption of uh simple
carbohydrates well
i think yeah i think it's you know i don't find carbohydrates i don't know what
it is for sure
but it's something we eat most like you know a lot of cases not always but i
think there's something
out there we're eating i'm pretty convinced it's not meat you know that's what
i can tell you for sure
from what i know you know whether it's uh you know sugar whether it's uh you
know processed gluten
or wheat or stuff like that whether it's vegetable oil uh whether it's uh you
know or even some
vegetables potentially and so this is what i'm seeing this is what i saw you
know i studied these
large facebook groups like an anthropologist you know like they used to study
these people
you know 100 years ago they go out you know weston price we go out and see all
these people and study
their teeth and stuff the problem with that is you know you don't speak their
language you know it's
pretty remote you can't you got to translate and so some of those observations
you know while they're valid
they're hard to do now you know but so when you go in these groups and you just
what you know all you
do is like reading this like a scientist going okay this guy went on this diet
and his joint point
away this guy went on this diet and his thyroid disease went away this guy went
on this diet
and his skin got you know psoriasis one going i kept seeing this over and over
and over and over
again i mean thousands of them but the big thing for most people is removing
refined carbohydrates
removing sugar and a lot of people dairy yeah i would say that that's a good
strategy for
most people you know here's the deal i don't care what people eat you eat
whatever makes you healthy
you know i think this is the thing we have these national guidelines to tell
people what to eat but
they're they don't work for most people you know obviously i mean look at look
at our country i mean
it's just it's sad to see all these people that are you know really really
getting sick and so i think
you know there's a guy named vinnie tortorch who has this no sugar no grain i
think that will that will
successfully help a huge percentage of people you know but i think you have to
be objective about it
you have to do it long enough for it to have an effect and you know i think you
have to
um you know be really be really clinical about it and so one of the big
problems i see as a physician
and this is a big problem because people will go on low carb diets or ketogenic
diets and they'll say
i feel the best i've ever felt in my life i mean my my mood is better my my
mental cognition is better
my joints feel better my guts don't hurt my skin is better my sex drive is
better everything you would
say is that means you're getting healthy and they'll go to their doctor and
they'll get some blood drawn
and their cholesterol will be high and the doctor will say well you're going to
kill yourself you're
going to have a heart attack right so people get scared away from that and they
go back to eating
their other stuff and then they feel crappy again but they're like well at
least my cholesterol is not
bad so one of the big problems and i'm trying to sort of basically preaching
this stuff is i think
and this is a problem with health care in general is we have so gotten away
from just defining what's
healthy you know if somebody comes into your office and you say you know you
talk to them for two three
minutes because health care is just you got 10 minutes to see a patient make a
decision so what you're
going to do is like hi how you doing order a bunch of labs you look at the
results of the labs and say
okay this lab is low this lab is high this lab is normal go on this drug or you
know do this or that
and the patient may be saying well but i feel great or that or maybe converse
they may say i feel like
crap well you look your labs look fine so go exercise a little bit well let me
bring you back to the
beginning so you you're you're a physician right so you understand a lot about
the human body
were you worried when you decided to go on this carnivore only diet were you
worried that you
were going to be deficient in some sort of nutrients and vitamins and fiber and
all these different
things like and were you cautious yeah i mean i i was very uh very i'm still
skeptical i mean i mean
that's just the way you should be but i mean i was uh aware of what's not in me
you know if you look
at the rda you know if you look at the rda and it says meat is low in vitamin c
it's low in manganese it's
low in you know potassium it's low in you know vitamin a but i mean there's a
whole bunch of
things that's low in you know on paper right so i was like why don't i can't
rectify why these people
are doing so well you know just eating meat and we know historically that there
are populations out
there the inuit the messiah the sami and all these people you know anyway it's
probably the best example
right because they they had extremely low incidence of cancer and no vegetables
there's nothing up there
yeah i mean i mean you know if you go to you know if you go to northern alaska
in the winter time you
good luck trying to find a fruit or vegetable i mean you're not and so but what
people would say when
they would they would just they would justify say yeah but they ate a lot of
their organs and i got
some vitamin c from their liver and you know some of the some of the whale skin
had some and so they
would just try to justify that and try to make this is how it worked and then
the the same thing with
messiah they would say well sometimes they would eat some berries once in a
while so they would always try to
justify it i'm like you know those things aren't available year round so you
know you can't get
berries you know especially in alaska or wherever the inuit are you know you
can't you can't get that
12 months out of here so that's not what's having a significant impact on their
diet i don't think
so it's it's it's coming from the meat itself well this is this is what this is
what i after doing a
lot of research on this stuff so we've known so it's interesting so when we
look at the de