Name: JRE MMA Show #8 with Jimmy Smith
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Description: Watch the stand-up comedy video 'JRE MMA Show #8 with Jimmy Smith' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2018-01-03. Transcript available. Joe Rogan sits down with Jimmy Smith to discuss recent and upcoming fights.

Watch the stand-up comedy video 'JRE MMA Show #8 with Jimmy Smith' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2018-01-03. Transcript available. Joe Rogan sits down with Jimmy Smith to discuss recent and upcoming fights.

JRE MMA Show #8 with Jimmy Smith

We good?
Oh, sorry.
Chatting about kombucha.
I just want to say before this podcast starts,
you fucked up, Beltor.
You fucked up.
You fucked up.
I've been telling everybody that Jimmy Smith's the best out there forever,
and you let him go.
That's a huge error on their part.
We can't talk about anything.
It is what it is.
It might be some future news.
We can't talk about that.
But the past is up for discussion.
The past is up for discussion.
The present's good.
I would be thrilled if somehow or another they were able to work it out
where Jimmy Smith was at the UFC.
We shall see.
That would be what I would like to see.
We shall see how that goes.
I would like to see that.
We will.
That's a big fuck up.
Yeah, man.
It was, let me say, just a little background.
A lot of people have been asking me.
I haven't made any real public statements other than...
I'm not a Beltor hater.
I just want to say.
Yeah, no.
Cross the board.
Never been a Beltor hater.
Respect.
I enjoyed watching it.
I like the fighters.
And I've always told everybody that you were the best out there.
Thank you so much.
You did an amazing job.
I really appreciate that.
Number one, yeah, it's not a Beltor thing.
I mean, they were great to work with.
They were great about the whole breakup thing.
They fucked up.
Just say it.
Someone say it.
Yeah, so what happened was I had a deal with an option year, and 2018 was my
option year.
And when I was in Verona, New York, doing the Verona show, my boss sat me down
and said,
we're not going to renew 2018.
We want a different deal.
And when they come to you and say, we want a different deal...
They want to downgrade.
It's never...
It's never...
When your girlfriend comes to you and says, I want to talk, it's never...
I don't give enough blowjobs.
That's never...
That's never what they...
They never say that.
It's always...
I'm going to be a better girlfriend.
Exactly.
Yeah, it's always bad.
It's always bad.
So, yeah, that was it.
When they were like, we want to change the deal around.
I was like, okay.
And they did make an honest effort to keep me.
They really tried, but they just...
They didn't make an offer that was worth me coming back.
And that was pretty much the deal.
So, it's kind of an amicable...
Comparatively amicable.
It's fascinating to me that in the world of mixed martial arts, professional
mixed martial arts,
there haven't been that many people that have done what you and I both do.
This is a small handful of people.
You know what the weird thing is about our job, really?
And I mean this from the bottom of my heart.
Everybody thinks they've got a guy.
It's one of those jobs that everybody thinks they can do.
They really go, we'll just throw a fighter and then he'll be able to do it.
I've seen...
I don't know how many that they want to do...
You know, even locker room interviews.
I want to get an ex-fighter to do that.
And it's a job.
It's a skill.
It's really...
I mean, it's one of those things where everybody thinks they can throw somebody
in and do it.
And I've seen...
I don't know how many try.
And it's tough.
You really have to work at it or have a knack for it.
It's not the kind of thing that...
It's almost like coaching.
I mean, how many times have you heard...
I've heard of great, great jiu-jitsu guys.
I'm like, he's just not a great coach.
He's naturally really good.
He's not that good at teaching him because to him it just works.
And then you try and it doesn't work.
You know, it's one of those things where a great fighter isn't a great coach.
Right.
Sometimes.
Yeah, a great fighter isn't necessarily a great broadcaster.
It just doesn't work that way.
Yeah.
Some guys are just naturally good at it, though.
Like, Cormier is naturally fun.
Like, when Rose Namajunas knocked out Ioanniu and Jacek, he starts yelling, Thug
Rose!
Thug Rose!
Like, that's just pure personality.
Like, you either have that in you or you don't.
You can't fake yelling out Thug Rose after Rose Namajunas KOs her.
You can't fake enthusiasm.
Right.
And that's, I think...
Real enthusiasm is contagious, too.
If you really care about the sport, there are two things that...
Well, three things that we have to do is, number one is to educate people.
Because a lot of people just...
Most American...
It's weird because most Americans didn't grow up wrestling.
They didn't grow up doing Muay Thai.
They didn't grow up doing jiu-jitsu.
So a lot of our sport is, at least partially, we're introducing them to it.
My mom doesn't know the difference between a knee bar and a leg lock.
She knows boxing.
She grew up watching boxing.
So she has a background in that.
So, you know, we have to explain a lot.
Number two is we've got to communicate enthusiasm.
We're happy to be here.
How great this thing is.
You should want to be here, too.
That's number two.
Number three is the story.
Every fight has a story.
And even if we don't tell the story, we at least give them the option of the
story.
Was Buster Douglas always a great fighter?
And we didn't know it.
Did he have one great night?
Was Mike Tyson unprepared that night?
Was Mike Tyson not as good as we thought he was?
Those are all possible.
We were literally just talking about that in the last podcast, about how Buster
Douglas' mom died
before the fight.
And he was just motivated like he'd never been motivated before.
Got himself in really good shape and had a mission.
Right.
Galvanized him like crazy.
The death of his mother.
Yeah.
But it's our job.
Right.
And the play-by-play scene.
It makes it more exciting.
To say, you know, what are we seeing here?
Are we seeing, wow, is Mike just having an off night?
Is Buster just having a great night?
Was Buster always great?
We didn't know it.
There are a million ways to see the story.
And mostly play-by-play doesn't it?
But we do it every now and then about, hey, you know, this could be a new thing.
It could be an old thing.
It's our job to tell that story a little bit.
Well, especially when it comes to results that we think happen and why they
happen in
certain fights and corrections that were made, which is on the technical side
of things.
100%.
The technical side of things on the ground, too, which is huge.
And you're one of the, I mean, how many guys are doing it?
But you're a legit Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate that.
I think that's important.
Yeah.
I think you have to understand transitions.
You've got to understand danger.
You've got to understand when someone's doing the right thing and then the
percentages of
them getting sub-drop substantially with each move.
You've got to be there.
So you're seeing every step of the way going, this guy's going to bail on us
any time now.
Here comes a scramble.
What would I do?
How do I anticipate this going down?
And being able to explain to people so they follow along.
And when you do it and I follow along, it makes it more enjoyable to me.
And that's, I mean, I think we talked about, I don't even know if we talked
about this before,
but I called Dana White about you, like, how many years ago?
Four?
I tried to get Jimmy Smith hired by the UFC like four years ago.
Four years ago.
Four years ago, yeah.
I was like, dude, you want better people?
You want more people?
I go, hire that fucking guy.
Yeah.
I go, that guy, he knows what he's doing, man.
He knows what he's doing.
He's excited.
He loves the sport.
And I was telling him, you're a great guy.
And we talk.
He's genuine.
I go, he's a real fan.
And he's fucking really good at it, man.
Go get him.
Really love it.
I mean, I love the sport.
I love it 100%.
I know you do.
The timing didn't work out then.
And then now I'm currently unemployed.
Well, you got to call some fucking badass fights, though, man.
You know, Bellator's welterweight division in particular is goddamn stacked
right now.
You know what's funny?
There are certain fighters, and I was thinking about it as I was watching the
Cyborg fight
last Saturday.
There are certain fighters you meet, and it's, like, stunning.
Certain athletes.
When you meet LeBron James, you go, Jesus Christ.
Like, I've seen him on TV, but when you see him in real life, you go, holy shit,
that
guy's big.
Cyborg's one of those.
Douglas Lima is one of those.
Have you ever met him?
Yeah.
When you meet that guy, you go, God, you make 170 pounds?
He is huge.
He is massive.
What do you think he walks around at?
210.
210.
He told me.
That's what he told you.
Jesus, that's 40 pounds.
When King Mo fought Rampage, all right, King Mo was 218.
He stepped on scale at 218.
Right.
So the night of the fight, you know, Douglas Lima was there, and I walk up to
him, and I
go, you've walked at 218.
And he goes, yeah.
He's like, well, I don't want to eat too much.
Like, I shouldn't, but I have.
He has walked around at what King Mo walked around at.
Because King Mo just stepped on scale.
He really doesn't cut to make 220.
I mean, because the weight class was 220 when he fought Rampage.
He walks around King Mo's size.
Like, they are the same size.
That is so insane.
And he makes 170.
He has the worst cut in terms of pounds I've ever seen.
He deals with it well, but he has one of the biggest cuts I've ever seen.
He's really good with it.
Bellator wasn't under on any IV restrictions.
I think it's by state.
We weren't as a promotion under it, I don't think.
I think it's by state.
Because I think the hardcore testing got instituted by USADA when Nowitzki came
along, and I think
that's when they stopped IVs.
I think states still allow them.
Yeah.
As far as I know, it's still state for us.
And so what that, for people who don't know what we're talking about, what that
means is,
and this is up for debate, because Joe Silva claimed that there had been tests
done.
And this is what he was telling me, and I believe him, that showed that the
correct way of rehydrating
orally actually led to better results over a 24-hour period.
That the IV thing was good for short-term recovery from severe dehydration, but
to actually go
from like a weight-cutting weight to go back, I don't know, I didn't read any
of the studies,
but I do know about the inherent dangers of severe weight cuts, kidney failure,
you know,
there's some, a couple people who died over the last year, a professional or an
amateur.
Wrestlers die every few years, a wrestler dies, don't they?
A young amateur Muay Thai fighter died, I think, in Australia.
Female, I think, yeah, yeah.
The issue that people have trouble understanding, well, first off, to the IV
point, I've heard
coaches say it's just for their head.
They feel better once they, like, they think they need the IV, and it's like a
placebo.
I've had coaches tell me it's pretty much a placebo.
You can't do it that much more than, now, once again, I haven't read the
studies, but
I've had coaches tell me that, that my fighter just needs it for his head.
It used to be like what we'd assume you had to have.
Like, if a guy's going to cut a lot of weight, he's going to have a guy ready
with an IV.
How many bags did you take?
That was the thing that everybody always brought up.
Immediately.
Yeah, how many bags?
Two things that people don't really know.
When people ask me, because I've been in this since about 2099 is when I first
started.
2099?
You're from the future.
I fucking knew it.
2099?
2099?
Dude, I knew it.
2000 comma 99.
Guys didn't cut like they do now.
When you look at old UFCs, and you look at the size of these guys, Tito's one
of the
few guys who was, right now, a legit 205.
Frank Shamrock is like my size?
Yeah.
Frank Shamrock was very small for the-
Incredible small.
Especially when he fought, when he fought, when Tito Ortiz and Frank Shamrock
fought, it
was one of the very first displays of defense and cardio and how critical it
was in victory.
100%.
He was lighter.
He was only like 190 when they fought.
Dude.
And he was able to push-
Fully clothed in 198.
Was he?
It was 198 back then.
Fully clothed.
Taking stuff out of his pockets.
Like a joke.
Like I'm fully clothed