Name: JRE MMA Show #19 with Vinny Shoreman & Liam Harrison
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'JRE MMA Show #19 with Vinny Shoreman & Liam Harrison' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2018-03-22. Transcript available.

JRE MMA Show #19 with Vinny Shoreman & Liam Harrison

Boom, and we're live with my pal Vinnie Shorman and eight-time world Muay Thai
champion Liam Harrison.
Ah, fuck you for having me.
Fuck yeah, dude. Great to be here. Great to see you guys, too.
Yeah, we love it.
Listen, man, I'm a big fan of all combat sports, but I really believe that if
there's one sport that doesn't get it to do, it's Muay Thai.
I really don't understand why it hasn't taken off in America. I don't get it.
I love boxing. Boxing's a lot of fun. I think Muay Thai is twice as fun.
Yeah, it's twice as hard as well, I think. I mean, I've fought pro boxing and I've
had over 100 Muay Thai fights.
It's definitely a lot harder. I mean, it's getting more mainstream now along
with the MMA because most of the top MMA fighters are doing Muay Thai for the
stand-up,
but it's still not where it needs to be.
Yeah, it's weird, right?
Yeah, I mean, I think what puts a lot of people off Muay Thai is maybe the two-minute
break.
And also the...
Two-minute break in between rounds?
Yeah, and the traditional music and stuff like that, people find that hard to
take, too, really, which is...
I mean, I love it, so I don't see that problem, but I can see outside the box
with that as well.
Well, I feel like the two-minute break gives guys more of a chance to recover,
which makes the fights more exciting.
You have more energy.
And I don't care about the dance, the Y crew. That doesn't bother me.
Yeah, but you're a fan, aren't you? You're a martial arts fan.
I mean, just sit down and watch your beers and...
I am, but watch baseball. Baseball's so fucking boring.
Exactly. It's crazy how boring it is.
A lot of shows in England now, they've started to cut out all the traditional
stuff.
There's no Ramu, no Y crew. You just get in the ring, you face off, bell goes,
goes straight away.
So they're trying to cut little aspects of it out just to make it more media-fan-friendly,
really.
Yeah. We should probably explain to people that don't know what we're talking
about, though. The dance that they do, it's called the Y crew, right?
Yeah, they're on Y.
And it's... What's... What is the headband that they put on? What is that?
The Monkong.
That's the Monkong.
And when you're doing the dance, the idea is, like, to warm up?
Yeah, there's lots of different reasons why there's different camps, believe
different things.
It's mainly to do with Buddhism.
Sealing the ring and then taking, you know, with plain respect to your gym,
your coaches, your parents, etc.
Yeah, I mean, I enjoy doing it. It sort of prepares me mentally for what's
about to happen.
I've done it in nearly all my 108 fights.
Only the odd one or two where I've missed it when that's only been because I've
been told by the promoters, right, no wrong way.
I enjoy doing it, but like Vinny said, like, some people who come to watch it,
they just want to see fights.
They don't want to see that aspect of the sport as well.
They just want to see people getting torn up.
And in case anybody didn't catch that through that dense accent, he just said
108 fights.
That's fucking crazy, man.
That's a lot of fights.
It is for a Westerner, but a lot of the ties I'm coming across, they're over
200, 300 plus.
I remember last year I fought a tie and they said, oh, Liam's had 100 fights.
That is a lot. What do you think?
And he said, I'd had 100 fights when I was 15 years old.
Wow.
That was Singh Damu who said that about it.
100 fights when he was 15. How is that even possible?
I'm not sure.
They must have been fighting every week, 52 weeks a year.
It's a living, isn't it?
Yeah.
If they don't eat, they don't.
In Thailand, if you don't fight, you don't eat.
So, see ya.
There's no welfare or anything like that, so they have to do that.
I had former UFC champion Pat Miletic in yesterday and we were talking about Muay
Thai and how crazy it is that this one place, Thailand, developed this
completely effective style.
Like, they changed the way people fight.
I mean, they really did.
Yeah, they did.
If you look at all the other martial arts, whether it's karate or kung fu or
anything else, like, they figured it out.
Yeah, without a doubt, but what's happening now is, as well, the Westerners are
starting to catch them up now.
I mean, remember the first time I went to Thailand, not many people were going
and not many people knew about fighting that Thai way.
More and more Westerners now are going to live there.
They're staying there for long periods of time.
They're getting it down and we can compete with the top-level Thais now.
Wow.
Before, like, back in the day, there might have been, like, only Ramon Decker,
Danny Beal, obviously John Wayne Parth, them guys.
Yeah, Ronnie Green as well from England.
Yeah, Ronnie Green from England.
But now there's a lot, a lot, especially around Europe, French fighters, top-level
British guys.
We've got Danny McGowan in England.
He's doing it.
I mean, we are starting to really compete with people on top-level now.
Is Muay Thai more popular in Europe than it is in America?
Yeah.
There's massive shows on in Europe every weekend.
Really?
I mean, in America, there's, like, the main one's Lion Fight.
Yeah.
We've got, like, two or three huge promotions in England now.
Jokau, there's Tanko, the French.
They have massive shows on every weekend with top, top-level fighters on all
over Poland and everywhere.
He's getting huge.
I'm a big fan of Lion Fight, but it seems to me that there's a lot of times
where these guys come over and they're fighting someone that really doesn't
belong in there with them.
And you get to see, like, a Lerdzilla or something like that.
That would be absolutely ridiculous.
That fight was crazy.
The guy's first fight against the guy who's had 400 fights, like, one of the
best Thai champions.
of this era.
Yeah, and his first ever professional Muay Thai fight.
And look what happened.
He got his head ripped off.
That's the difference between Jokau and everything else, you know?
They do it in such a way that the matchmaking, Brian Calderud, who's a matchmaking,
our friend, the fights are, like, really, really, always, always competitive,
which I really enjoy.
And you've been doing commentary for them for how long?
I've been doing commentary for Jokau since 2011.
I met Stefania when I was working for It's Showtime, and she asked me to work
for them.
I still have some of the old It's Showtime on my old...
I have a DVR on my gym that's, like, fucking 10 years old, and I still have
your voice.
Right.
Yeah, screaming out over some...
I'm sorry about that.
It's great.
You know what, as of, I was going to say, as I've matured, but after the shenanigans
we've got up to in the past, you'd be surprised.
But, no, it's, you know, Jokau's gone from strength to strength, you know, and
It's Showtime offshoots like Glory and Fusion, who I work for now.
You know, it's so healthy at the minute.
Yeah.
So healthy, kickboxing and Muay Thai.
Well, it's so high level.
It's just, to me, I mean, I've sat down and thought about this alone by myself
for hours on end, trying to think, like, what would be the way to get Muay Thai
more popular in America?
Because me, as a person who loves combat sports, I look at Muay Thai, and I'm
like, this is the pinnacle of striking sports.
It's the most exciting to me.
I like the clinch.
I like the elbows.
I love kickboxing.
I love Glory.
But I feel like there's something missing with that.
Like, just the stuff that you were showing me today, with all the trips and sweeps
and all that stuff that's eliminated from Glory.
The thing is, with Liam as well, though, because he's got such a, he's got a
friend-friendly style.
You know, he's not particularly a clincher, but he's crashed bang wallop in 150
mile an hour.
And, I mean, I'm not going to lie, I'm his biggest fan.
I mean, if you listen to the commentary, he's totally 100% biased.
And I don't fucking care.
And I love the kids, you know what I mean?
I've known him since he was 15.
I'm on my back-up floor.
And he's like, look how well he's lying down.
He's doing it great.
He's wearing them ankles smashing, he does.
But, you know, for me, it's his style that makes it exciting, you know?
Yes.
I think that, with the TV thing, I think, to get it more popular, you need to
pick and choose what fights you're putting on the TV, I think.
Yeah.
If you just put, like, a random show on with, like, three, like, fights that
are terrible, but one's okay, you need to, instead of it being live, maybe,
like, pick and choose some good fights, get it out there, get people talking
about it, make them think, wow, did you see that?
Did you see them elbows?
Did you see all that blood?
See them sweeps?
That's what I think.
Yeah, that's what I do, personally.
I feel like if a network like Fox took a chance and had one Saturday night and
they promoted it and that we're going to show you the most dangerous stand-up
strikers on the planet Earth.
Like, you might think that professional boxers are the most dangerous strikers,
but they literally wouldn't last two rounds.
They'd get their legs kicked out of the way, they'd get kneed in the body and
elbowed in the face, they'd get cut up and clenched and thrown to the ground,
it's just a better style of fighting, and a guy like you on TV would be a whole
lot of fun.
I'm a big fan of the way you fight, man.
You fight like you've got rabies.
It's like what Vinny said.
Yeah, it's like what Vinny said.
I've always had that type of style, but you know what?
Sometimes I've probably lost fights on points because of wanting to go for the
kill when probably if I'd have changed my game plan, I probably could have won,
but that's just not what I'm about.
I get in there and people coming to watch me fight and paying their hard-earned
money to come and watch me fight.
They want to see me smash someone's leg, they want to see me knock someone out,
they want to see, even if it goes a distance, they want to see me put it all in
there, and people are paying their money for that, so I feel like I've got a
moral obligation to give them that.
I mean, I can fight technical as well.
I've had lots of fights in the past where I've just gone in with that game set
and I've schooled top-level fighters, but I don't like doing that.
I want to get in there and I want to fuck you up.
I don't like you doing that either.
I'm not going to be, you know.
You don't like when he fights technical?
Listen, he can't do any wrong in my eyes, you know what I mean?
He can't, you know what I mean?
Oh, Liam's killed the family for nothing.
They must have done something to him saying.
But, no, I just think that, you know, his style, the way that the show that I
work on regularly, Yoka, I mean, to have that level of, it's matchmaking.
See, Muay Thai's like anything.
If it's done well, it's beautiful.
If it's done badly, it's hard to watch.
Right, including boxing.
You know, like one of the reasons why we were talking about the Gennady Golovkin-Canelo
Alvarez fight, I mean, one of the reasons why we're so looking forward to the
fight, not just because the first fight was so great, because stylistically,
you look at the way those two guys fight.
Like, how could this be a bad fight?
It's impossible.
You look at the fight, you look at the fight, and they're both saying they're
going to both change different game plans and stuff.
And it's got everyone thinking again, oh, well, what is going to happen this
time?
There's no change.
Someone's going to get hit, and it's going to be guns blazing.
Team GGG.
Yeah.
Team GGG.
We've been to hunt him.
We were looking for him the other day at Big Bear.
Yeah, you guys went stalking like bear girls, 100%.
Sat in a restaurant where he eats, where he came over and said, oh, what would
you like?
I went, ah, I'll have to watch GGG's, please.
Yeah, it's true.
The GGG's special.
And when we was in there, we were sat there, and Liam was like across from me,
and I went, there's Tom Loeffler.
And he went, who was it?
I went, it's GGG's manager.
And they'd be getting old