Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1147 - Dr. Debra Soh
Uploaded: 2018-07-27T00:44:57.000Z
Description: Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1147 - Dr. Debra Soh' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2018-07-27. Transcript available.

Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1147 - Dr. Debra Soh' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2018-07-27. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1147 - Dr. Debra Soh

five four three two one hello dr so hi what's happening pull this sucker
fist from your face there you go yeah perfect thanks for doing this appreciate
it thank you
for having me uh i've watched a bunch of your videos i've listened to a bunch
of your talks
read a bunch of your work very interesting person and this is a good time for a
person like you
things seem to be kind of scrambled a little bit yeah it's a little topsy-turvy
out there these days
yeah a little bit crazy so you're a sex neuroscientist is that an accurate
description yeah
i'm a former academic sex researcher my phd is in sexual neuroscience research
and now i work as
a science journalist and a columnist and why former because the climate in
academia has changed so much
like you mentioned how things are topsy-turvy but that's pretty much how you
can describe academia
nowadays even in the hard sciences yeah it's um it's getting a little weird
what are you
attributed to i think it's a combination of things i think it's particular ideologies
coming in and
taking over but they've been there for a while but i think it's that that they've
reached the mainstream
i see it as political correctness running amok and i see it as legitimate
researchers not being able to
speak out because they've got enough on their plate with their research they're
teaching they've got
their students you know they're super busy and then on top of it they don't
want to deal with the
mobbing that will inevitably happen if they do speak out so things are kind of
in favor right now of the
craziness but it's fascinating though as an outsider to watch the craziness i
bet yeah it's i mean i'm
glad i don't have to be in school right now and and deal with it but to watch
it from the outside it's
just so interesting interesting in what way though well because it's almost
like there's a sort of a
delusional aspect to it like a an agreed upon delusional aspect it's like like
the gender one in
particular the gender is very strange right now like um there's uh there's
first of all the l b g t q i a
what else et cetera is there oh my god are there more tons yeah they're adding
more to it they keep
adding more yeah to be more inclusive you okay jamie something going on oh what's
going on all right
i thought maybe we were down again um yeah it's just but gender in particular
one of the things that
i said about one of the more bizarre things about today's political climate is
that people selectively
agree with science it's like when it comes to client climate change like
everybody is like pro science
like science all the way look at the studies yeah even when they don't even
understand the studies like
there's a famous and you know you get in trouble when you bring up tucker carlson
because people go
oh you're a tucker carlson fan i'm just as a human being i'm not gonna get mad
he made some very good
points with bill nye he had bill nye on they were talking about science and he
said okay if human
beings are responsible for climate change what percentage what are the numbers
like and bill nye really
isn't a scientist he's a science uh you know what would you call personality
that's a media personality
he's a guy who's uh you know he's um a promoter of science but not really
necessarily a scientist so
he's he doesn't he doesn't have long term study and research to climate change
he's just sort of on there
in a slightly arrogant way saying things that i agree with like what i agree
with is that human beings are
responsible at least in part with climate change this is what all the research
points to yeah but when
tucker carlson was pressing him on it he really didn't have any answers for it
so it's one of those
things where like people on the left will blindly support science in one way is
that you or me dang it if
it's me i'm gonna be very upset with myself don't think it's me i'm a loser um
but then when it comes to
gender you watch his show he's got this wacky show on netflix yeah where they're
they're singing songs
about gender can be fluid and gender could be this and there's more than two
yeah there's more than
two genders which he didn't used to say yeah if you go back to one of his i did
see that there was
an older episode where they clearly say that gender is binary yeah this is like
way back before all this
nuttiness stuff so it's influencing people who are in the like people are
deciding instead of supporting
science and supporting the research on actual human beings as a biological
organism instead
we're going with this bizarre politically correct climate which inclines people
to this weird delusional
thinking and as an outsider that's what's interesting to me to watch all this
like look at this scrambling
look at this weirdness you know it's hypocritical it definitely is and it's it's
interesting to see i mean
say the march for science i attended that not this past year but the year
before so people are there
they're super excited about science pro science i think science is great sure
all this money should
go to science and you ask them okay so you're so you're down for climate change
being real but what
about science now by the left and i asked so many people this while i was there
because i was reporting
on it for playboy.com and um it's amazing people get very uncomfortable they
don't want to they don't
want to say anything about i would consider myself to be a liberal but
definitely liberals don't want to think
about themselves being science deniers and when you look at how people talk
about gender now and
biological sex differences in the brain even biology more generally people get
very defensive they get
angry almost and they find it threatening for some reason which i i don't
understand and that's a big
part of my work is to say i think we can acknowledge that these facts exist and
that biological science
is legitimate that doesn't mean that sexism is okay we're not saying that women
are inferior or anything like
that exactly that's the big point about all this right is that we're not saying
that anyone's inferior
we're just not the same thing this is what the big problem is to try to say i
mean i i certainly think
we should all have equal rights but we're not equal in terms of what we are we're
a different we're and
it's not that we're not equal like one's better it's just like saying a wolf is
not equal to a cheetah they're
fucking different things yeah and males and females are different things yeah
and this is
this is clear when you study us as an organism you know i had a really bizarre
conversation once with
a guy who's a professor or a former professor and he was trying to deny that
there there's a difference
between men and women it's crazy and one of the things i said i said okay you
get a dog and do you
ask is this a boy dog or a girl dog and then he got like real weird this is
really no answer to that
yeah like it's it's a boy dog you want a boy dog right is it a a non-binary dog
like what is your
dog or it might change its mind tomorrow is your dog gender fluid yeah like
what is gender fluid well
it's this idea that you can be one gender one day another gender the other day
or it might cycle
through the day or doesn't your mix of both that seems like if it was anything
else you would have to
be crazy right it was anything else yeah it's like if you decided well today i'm
african yeah
tomorrow i'm chinese yeah you know oh today uh i'm tall tomorrow i'm short
today i'm a pixie
tomorrow i'm a wood elf like but i think everybody is we don't have to call it
something like gender
fluid everyone is a mix of male and female right like you have people that are
maybe more typically
masculine or more typically feminine but even still there there's i don't think
there are many people
that are 100 percent one way or the other no well what does that even mean i
mean people are clearly
more masculine than other people but does that mean that the people like you
know let's pick a person
bill nye does that mean he's not a man he's clearly a man exactly yeah he's
clearly a man he's not a
lebron james but he's a man yeah you know there's there's there's obviously a
spectrum yeah but i almost
feel like that way of thinking is more old-fashioned because this is all about
being progressive and open-minded
but i think if someone is a man but is maybe more female typical to say that
this person is a
different category of gender or that they're i don't know not male to me that's
more stereotypical
you know what i mean i think it's it's not progressive to say if you're a mix
of both you
must be something different well you're not necessarily a mix of both right you
just have
a different hormonal profile and a different i mean it's different body type
different i mean people
vary so much that i mean i think having some sort of categories to say oh this
is a male and this is
a female it seems like it's pretty beneficial yeah i mean although we vary so
widely inside those
categories to pretend that those categories don't exist just seems so weird we
would never do that
with any other organism and it's a lot of work too you see these companies
going and they're trying to be
more and with the times i guess and they're everything is gender neutral now
and i'm thinking
all of that money and time is being wasted when i don't think that does
anything for for women or
sexism if you change instead of addressing someone by ladies and gentlemen you
say people is that really
going to stop sexism it just makes people mad because then they have to change
the way they talk
i put up a a story on twitter the other day about people that are raising their
kids with they and
them i saw that yeah they're calling them babies instead of babies fun fun
times what the
fuck is that like i just i think it's coming from for some parents it's coming
from a good place
like they obviously want the best for their kids and they don't want to limit
the kid in terms of
what they might be interested and i think because the media is telling them if
you let girls play with
dolls that's terrible and they're going to end up you know not having any sort
of prospects when they
grow up in terms of their jobs or i don't know it's such a terrible thing to be
female typical nowadays
but i mean like you mentioned it's biology that's going to dictate what your
kids play with and then in
other cases i think it's parents that want to be special well it's also weird
because if your son is
trans it's totally fine for him to be female typical yeah like it's celebrated
like if you have a trans
son and he likes wearing lipstick and short skirts and prancing around then he's
fabulous like there
was a a boy in new york and there was this whole thing about he's the youngest
ever drag queen and
and everybody's going crazy and people were angry about it you know exploited
yeah some people were angry
and saying he's being exploited by his parents and some people thought it was
wonderful that this
kid was so expressive when he's so young and then other people said had a good
point they said well
it's very sexualized like how is this any different than someone who's in a
beauty pageant like a john
benet ramsey type situation well if it was really young if it was a little girl
people would be up in
arms yeah sexist and that it's the patriarchy but that little boy so i don't
know that he's trans i
believe that he just likes to like like a a man who's a drag queen is just a
man it's usually a gay
man who likes to just you know like an extreme form of femininity i love drag
queens but i think that
little boy is likely going to grow up to be a gay boy if you have a little boy
who says he's a girl
and you see a lot of these trans girls if they were left alone and they didn't
transition they would
likely research shows they would grow up to be gay men is that yeah i mean i'm
a hundred percent for
freedom right so i'm 100 for you being able to do whatever you want to do the
real question becomes
when people are trans 