Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1203 - Eric Weinstein
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1203 - Eric Weinstein' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2018-11-16. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1203 - Eric Weinstein

and we're live are you you gonna update the the people out there no oh you shut
your phone off
oh you're a professional how are you sir good to see i'm doing well what's
going on um everything
it's all pretty weird out there it is very weird out there we were just talking
about how weird it
is out there um before the podcast about how it just seems like it's very
difficult to keep together
during these times and to to keep a reasonable position and to handle all of
the pressure of
all the people that get upset at anything you do left or right in the middle
centrist you're too
centrist you're too left you're too right you're unreasonable you're too
reasonable you're too nice
you're not nice enough wow suddenly i feel like i'm in a marriage
doesn't it seem like that yeah it does i think that this is why this is the era
for disagreeability if
you're not easily swayed um because you're somehow uh insensitive enough that
you just want to keep
uh to first principles whatever it is that you believe that seems to be the
best hedge against
getting swept up in the madness of others how so well um i guess i when i go
metacognitive i look
at my yearning for group belonging and then i also watch my inability to belong
to groups that say crazy
things yeah and so those are those are two conflicting feelings i think
sometimes when people look at me they
say wow you're really contrarian and you have an easy time standing up to you
know the conventional
wisdom i don't think it's it's it's that true i just think when those two
things fight inside me
dialectically the disagreeability is so strong because it's protecting a
comprehensive view of
the world and so since everything already kind of fits together fairly well i
would say i'm much it's
much harder to sway me because the number of things i would have to move
cognitively to accommodate a wrong
idea is quite large it seems unnecessary but it also seems like we should be
able to disagree on things
and you should be able to point out with reasonable courtesy that there's
something wrong with someone's
idea and it not become a big personal thing but oftentimes that's not the case
well
so a lot of the things i think that we're exploring are what i would think of
as heuristics they're sort
of rules of thumb that work fairly well within some domain of definition and we've
gotten so many
of these conflicting rules i mean the rules of thumb themselves conflict so for
example he who hesitates
is lost uh conflicts with um nothing ventured nothing gained or something like
that uh sorry don't
um it's uh well i forget you know there's the cautionary um aphorism and then
there's the be bold aphorism
and so we don't have a good way of sorting out conflicts that occur at the heuristic
level then you
also have heuristics uh meant for social cohesion conflicting with ground
truths so this is why biology is
always controversial because biology is a science that tells us many of the
things that we wish were true
or just not true you know i always think about ben shapiro's facts don't care
about your feelings well
biology cares about your feelings it just laughs at them and stomps on them and
makes them
you know feel very sad well it also tries to explain your feelings too well
right exactly yeah but you
know if you really understand biology the world is so dark and so interesting
and beautiful and crazy
that it's very hard to recover simple ideas about how people should be once you
really
realize that our being apes has deep consequences yeah i have a very minimal
understanding of biology
but in that understanding i've come to accept some things just about being a
person that i never
considered before such as all the different things that are running your
decision making like just what
what we're talking about like the the need to be in a group and all these are
probably evolutionary
advantages to you know fostering tribal behavior so you could all work together
and feed each other
you know this this is always pulling at you and you know when when people give
people a hard time about
virtue signaling it is kind of gross when someone virtue signals you know but
we understand what it is
it's gross because we've all done it right that's one of the gross things about
it when someone is
just like really trying hard to act like you know they're disgusted by the way
people behave because
they would never behave like that and they just want to let you know i'm above
this type of behavior
what's most likely because they weren't above that kind of behavior at some
point in their life or
they're not currently really above that type of behavior but they wish they
were or the part of them that's
speaking is the part that's above that behavior but that's not the part that's
going to be
operative uh after 11 on a weekend at a bar yeah three shots in all bets are
off the wheels are off
the wagon so i think we don't we don't see ourselves we are permanently in our
own blind spot because
the part of us that is you know just and righteous and good um seems to know
very little about the other
part well it's also this thing this need to belong and need to be accepted like
we work to be
accepted instead of work to be someone that you would want to be a part of the
group instead of being
like really honest about who you are and how you think and how you behave and
how you operate in the
world instead of doing that and trying to prove upon that you try to project an
image of this well
then what here's a question for us why is vice signaling so much more powerful
than virtue signal
vice signaling like a person who admits their problems like an alcoholic who
steps up and says i've got a real
issue could be that way or it could be sort of dan bilzerian type vice
signaling like you want to
know what i'm into i'm into hot chicks weed and guns and making tons tons of
money and showing it off
well he's super honest right now that's one of the reasons and you he's bulletproof
in that regard like
you can't with him like you can't say hey look at you you're just a playboy he'd
be like yep
yeah i like girls yeah it works yeah um what else right now i'm nice like he's
a nice guy talk to
damn bilzerian he's friendly he's not bad guy no i mean he you know he had a he
had this post which
was uh he was i think offering a hand to a woman up a stair and it said come
with me i'll ruin your
life but it'll be fun you know it was just like it's so disarming yeah and i
think that this is also
partially you know a secret to your success which is that you're a nice guy you're
really into fighting
um you know you you hunt elk you're clear about which ones you're gonna kill
which ones you won't
based on the reproductive cycle you're you're promoting all sorts of things
that people don't
want to talk about to a fairly conscious level and it's produced um an
incredible level of trust in an
era where all of the virtue signaling gives way i mean if you scratch any
person uh enough below the
surface you're gonna see that they're really warning you about themselves and
so the people who are
the most sort of self-critical and then this is like you know i think i brought
this up recently
on twitter about meta honesty where there was uh in the castor in san francisco
there was a a bar
restaurant that was advertising uh free food naked servers plus false
advertising and you know it was
just fun and playful and as a result you know you had an instant desire to to
eat there and to trust
them yeah and so i think that in this world of virtue signaling vice signaling
is really the growth
industry and that's that's what's working for good people because they are more
in touch and you know
they are going to lie to you and they're going to do all the self-interested
things but they're not
going to surprise you quite as much well in the case of dan belzerian i really
don't think he's
going to lie to you i don't think that's what he's doing i think what he's
doing is living like a guy
who's got a hundred million dollars and happens to be 35 years old and likes to
bang hot chicks and fly
around in private jets and live in some have you seen that house that he's got
he just bought some
crazy house in like bel air i guess with that weed money jesus he's got some it
looks like it probably
cost 100 million dollars or something ridiculous like that it's a insane house
but that's what he
likes yeah you know the guy drives likes to drive around ferraris and and but
he's a nice guy
so it's like well what where what's what's wrong with this picture what's wrong
with this picture is
he's doing things that look at this this is his house what in the holy is that
does he have
a golf course on his roof what is that this is a ridiculous house look at this
place he gives
his address out is that his address it's pretty hard to hide that thing why the
would he give
his address i don't think you can get there it's in bel air whoa look at this
house it's preposterous
anyway this is what he likes but it why is that bad i mean look we only have a
hundred years if
everything goes perfect i know what do you give a like why does everybody get a
shit but they do give a they give a a lot because for a lot of folks that are
working you know making
a good living making you know 50 grand a year or whatever that's completely out
of the realm of
possibility and his lifestyle wouldn't be sustainable for them i mean yeah
because he's taking real risk
there's no question about it when you you know you get everybody stoned and
then you take them to
fire automatic weapons out in the desert oh yeah that's real risk and also the
gambling he
does a lot of like crazy gambling well but this is the thing about the uh the
relationship with
the unforgiving this is partially why i think your ufc and jujitsu life is that
when you have a
relationship with the unforgiving you can say you know that guy that guy doesn't
really know what
he's doing but then you're you're in the ring you know you're the man in the
arena and and you
find out very quickly whether or not the trash talking you know paid off or it
didn't
and i think that many people have no relationship with the unforgiving like you'll
take them out on
a hike into you know the let's say the trinity wilderness and then two hours in
they'll just sit
down and say i want to go home right you're thinking like okay you're you're
signaling something but
there's there's no car service and there's we're not calling a helicopter you
know it just yeah there's
this if you live in the social layer you're surprised by the existence of the
unforgiving
but yeah well on one hand i want to support people's ability to do whatever the
they want
on one hand i want to support someone's ability to sit in front of a computer
and
whether you're working or you're writing code or you're writing a script or you're
just
playing video games yeah i want to support your ability to do whatever you want
to do if you if you
have the means if you're not you know if your family's not starving this is
what you enjoy doing
why do i care but as a person who's experienced a fair amount of adversity
especially self-imposed
adversity i would i would tell you that you would benefit from it i've
benefited from it and i think
you'd benefit from it too you don't want to be that guy that two hours into the
hike says i want to
go home you don't want to be that guy you want to be that person just says well
this is what we're doing
and i'm going to figure out how to do this and i'm going to show character and
i'm going to i'm going
to be proud of myself at the end of this i mean i might have to walk for six
hours and when it's all
over my legs might be shaky and i might have to sit down but that gatorade is
going to taste so good
it's going to be like the greatest gatorade of all time because you're going to
drink it you'll be
like i earned the shit out of this right you're going to feel it and i think we
learn about ourselves
through especially self well any kind 