Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1226 - Mike Baker
Uploaded: 2019-01-17T00:40:19.000Z
Description: Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1226 - Mike Baker' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2019-01-17. Transcript available.

Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1226 - Mike Baker' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2019-01-17. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1226 - Mike Baker

four three two one mr. Baker how are you mr. Rogan I'm doing well thanks very
much what's
going on man what are you doing in town I just was in town doing a some work on
a sizzle reel
for a show a new show can you talk about that you tell people what it is well
there's actually two
of them one I can talk about I can tease it a little bit the marketing
department I guess has
to approve everything that said it started out it's gonna be on the discovery
network I think a
science channel and it was starting to main filming in February and we should
be finished by the end of
March so you know stamp I but it's started with a discussion about hidden
budgets in the defense
department like dark art stuff yeah it's good the show's gonna be called black
files and UFO type
shit well there's gonna be some of that some but but from a you know not from a
you know you know
did they lie land did they not it's it's we're really actually kind of tearing
into some of the
programs that were funded by you know hidden money in the defense department
and how do they do that
well I mean if you take like the CIA for example the agency's budget is hidden
inside it's not hidden
but it's placed inside the defense department and it's and it's a classified
piece of information
obviously because a lot of the defense department gets a certain budget the CIA
gets a piece of that
but nobody's allowed to know how much right or where it's spent right because
obviously you know the
Russians the Chinese whomever would like to know you know how much money is
sent over to the agency so
that they can get a sense of size resources capabilities that sort of thing so
that's where
the the show concept started you know what what is that money spent on and both
in the old days and
and now so it's a it's it kind of spans you know historical operations and
events and activities and
special units and it comes up to the present time and says you know where is
you know money being devoted
now for new technology or new programs new operations new intelligence
gathering efforts whatever it might be
so it's yeah I think it's it's got a lot of promise you know hopefully people
tune in and find it interesting
well people are always curious about where the money goes yeah yeah and you
know I am I want like who
oversees it who gets who gets to decide like what gets spent on what and how
much money goes where and
who gets to know I do that's it's my job um it's a good question uh you know
that's I think a lot of
people would be uh surprised at the amount that we're talking about you know
and it's not just it's
not the intelligence community it's also the military obviously um can you
discuss the actual numbers
or could you discuss the numbers that they used to have uh we'll be able to
discuss the numbers that
uh went into past operations but anything that's currently classified obviously
we're not going to touch on
right uh but we've been working hard and the producers have been working very
hard to
uh get excellent access you know where possible and get cooperation where
possible uh it's going
to be a fairly immersive effort so what's the benefit of the cia even divulging
any of this
information like why would they cooperate why wouldn't they say hey shut the
fuck up yeah well and and
and frankly they should and and they have and they will um but not necessarily
with the agency but with
other uh departments and certainly within the military there's um you know some
information out there
that's accessible uh there's some ability to get them to cooperate on on
certain again declassified
operations that just haven't come to light look a lot of shit's been declassified
over the years
that's just never been looked at or talked about you know somebody maybe gets a
wild hair up their ass
and they say i'm gonna look into this program and then they start you know
peeling it back it's not
that it's classified it's just nobody's ever bothered to dig into that
information once it is uh declassified
so you know it's it's gonna be a lot of fun a lot of travel uh some great
people working on the program
but you know apparently i have to uh keep it pretty much at that until the
marketing department says
okay here's what you can say right so eventually you'll be able to spill the
beans and tell us
everything that happens exactly so like if they're making something like the b-52
like if they're making
a stealth bomber if they're making some spaceship looking thing like you're
talking this insane amount of
money in research and development and the budget of these things and they have
to keep all that under
wraps yeah shit yeah i mean look you go back to the old days of uh of the u2
program u2 program was
developed designed built maintained flown by the cia all those years ago right
now that was a massive
effort and a lot of money and it was done uh under budget and it was done on
time um in in part because
i think you know things were a little bit easier back then and we weren't all
pissing on each
other up on capitol hill but uh yeah there's so it's it's it's programs like
that that i think
will surprise people when they find out both who was running it who was
responsible um and to the
degree possible you know what did it cost us and you know who was involved and
and to what degree did
it lead to something else that we're doing now so anyway there's there's a lot
of a lot of you know
uh threads to pull on i think it should be a lot of a lot of fun so there's
constantly projects that
are in development that people other than the people that need to know the
general public has
no idea like that's always the the person the the people on the outside folks
like myself you look at
the you go i wonder what kind of shit they have that they don't tell us about
like that's what you
always want like what kind of invisibility cloak what kind of crazy you know
that would be good
dark matter weapons like what are they doing yeah no it's it and it's it's true
i mean you get these
incredibly smart people and it but it comes down it's it's as simple as this
somebody gets an idea
they're sitting around a table it's not unlike going out with your buddies and
drinking and thinking
you know come somebody comes up with with some you know dumb ass idea the next
thing you know it
turns into a tv show or something but it's uh it's it's not unlike that a lot
of smart guys sitting
around a table thinking well here's the problem how do we resolve it and the
key is to do it creatively
right to come up because if you get a bunch of engineers sitting around a table
you hope that
they're not at all approaching it from the same point of view right it's like
with an operation if
you've got it you got a high value target out there and you got to figure out
how to get get access get
to them um you want ideas coming in from all directions you don't want it you
don't want to
you know squelch uh creativity and believe it or not i mean the intel community
the military
they've been enormously creative over the years in developing new technologies
and developing uh
operational ideas and methodologies so it's what we're trying to do is shed
some light on that
well i would imagine there's a certain amount of i don't want to use the word
fun but that's really
the right word like some of it's got to be fun to develop this stuff and to
implement it and go out
and get bad guys with it and to see your project come to fruition and actually
have a positive effect
on the world absolutely yeah i mean if you it really is it's it's that simple
because you know
in operations anyway you know you you engage in something out there in in some
you know you know
place around the world wherever it may be and you know you realize as you're
walking away that you
know there's not a lot of people doing this at this moment on the planet right
i mean so so the
operational activity itself is is enormously entertaining as long as it goes
right uh but
it's also the build-up it's all that homework that gets you there right it's it's
like that take down
of bin laden we didn't just happen to get lucky and rock up on his doorstep
right in the bad about
that was eight or nine years of fucking hard work right heavy lifting chasing
down countless bad leads
and doing enormous amounts of surveillance street work and and tracking down
assets and doing i mean just it's just
the hard hard work that eventually allowed the you know all those guys from
from the teams to land and
do their job what's what's interesting to me too is that the guy who's writing
the book about all this
stuff and talking about you know the man who shot bin laden that guy's persona
non grata in the community
like you talk to the other seals they're like you don't you don't do that right
you don't you don't do
that you don't you don't write books about that you don't talk about that and
you do it for a short
term gain you know you make some profit off of it but you lose the brothership
you lose yeah exactly
you you're you're kind of on the outs in the club and but i will say this the
reason why i think uh the
horse got out of the barn on on that whole issue of of guys writing books or
getting out there and
talking about specific operations um it's because senior commanders and and
senior people right people
that came out of the top levels of government uh started writing their memoirs
you know started
revisiting history while they were it was their watch and then and coming up
with you know their
explanations for history and i think all the guys below you know junior ranks
and street level operators
they looked at that and then what the if they can do it why not me and because
you've got to set the
tone from the top and i think that's where it got it got all you know kind of
sideways plus when you
have someone who you know has a crazy story like marcus luttrell and it becomes
an amazing movie it also
it it does help the community right because it gets a bunch of people that are
really interested in
becoming a seal it gets people to appreciate the the unbelievable sacrifice and
hard work that's involved
yeah i think that's i think that there is an upside right yeah there's an
upside to it but i think
there's it's a fine balance right what point do you go over that line so so you're
right in the
sense that you know we see that with uh whomever the fbi or dea you know they
got out there and put their
thumbprint on some tv shows right because i think it kind of it it expanded in
in part uh awareness of of
what they do i'm sure it helped their recruitment um and so the seals are no
different but at the same time
uh you know you sign a piece of paper at the very beginning that says you're
going to keep your yap
shut yeah right and and it's one thing to come out where from whatever unit or
whatever team or whatever
organization and say i'm gonna write uh i don't know about my time in right and
it's not a look
at sources and methods not look at operations it's not that it's more of you
know this is what happened
you know during my time and i mean i think there's i'm not explaining it very
well but i think there's a way you can do that
um without screwing the pooch but i think that uh i think the seals got overexposed
and i think a lot
of the guys um resent that and so but again you're right there there was some
upside to it well there's
upside to some of the stories right like i definitely think there's upside to
marcus latrell's story
because it's just so incredible people should hear about it but i think that
there's also
it's important to maintain that honor it's important to maintain that that bond
of silence you know that
you guys you know they're doing something that is probably one of the most
dangerous and one of the
most in terms of special operations one of the most significant in in in all of
military in this country
right yeah i think that the the old school guys the old school operators out of
the teams
are definitely like just you know shut your pie 