Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1242 - Tim Pool
Uploaded: 2019-02-09T02:12:29.000Z
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1242 - Tim Pool' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2019-02-09. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1242 - Tim Pool

three two one hello tim how's it going thanks for finally being here yeah long
story right
yeah i definitely drank too much coffee before we get here so if i appear like
cracked out i
swear to god i'm not in pills but uh glad to hear it but um so we had a nice
conversation on the
phone about de-platforming and social media and um what it was very obvious to
me in talking to
you was that you're way more schooled on this than i am so that's why i wanted
to have this
conversation with you right because yeah part of what was like i re-listened to
my podcast with jack
and um you had a good criticism of it i agree with a lot of what you said first
of all i agree that
it was kind of boring yeah and it was i think in many for many reasons it was
my fault uh i don't
think i prepared enough for it and i also don't think i understood the
magnitude of how other people
felt about de-platforming on twitter and uh in all social media youtube and all
these different
things and what the ramifications are and how how much this means to people to
have very clear and
obvious obvious free speech outside of very egregious examples of like threats
and doxing and things like
that which i think we can all agree right i think this problem might be one of
the like one of the
worst problems we're facing right now politically yes you know the twitter is
where public discourse
is happening it's where journalists are and this is a problem sourcing a lot of
their stories yes so
if you have somebody who's completely removed from public discourse that's
exile you know i can't i can
imagine why some people kind of lose their minds when that happens and um i
think going into that
conversation with him well that's what i wanted it to be that's why i don't
really interview people
any i kind of have conversations with them yeah occasionally we have disagreements
and we you
know we talk about things and you know but it's not i don't have uh uh like a
mandate my only com the
only thing i wanted to get out of the conversation is i wanted to find out what
it was like to start
that organization and to have no idea when you were doing it that it was going
to be essentially like
one of the most important distribution at uh avenues for information an
activist buddy an activist buddy
of mine asked me if i knew why people smash windows smash starbucks it's not
because they think they're
going to cause damage it's because they want to strike a symbol down of
something they view oppresses
them jack dorsey is that symbol to a lot of people and you know to see you know
what i was saying
earlier is i think a lot of people look at you you're like a real dude you know
your your conversations
are real you have you're not one of these fake news journalists that people are
very critical of
that feel they're they're biased or have an agenda so when you sit down with
jack dorsey and doesn't
go anywhere people then feel like the last person who's not supposed to let us
down let us down you
know what i mean yeah no i look i felt you twice as much i felt it and i
noticed that i got you know
more hate for that one than probably anything that i've ever done and uh you
know i'm not a guy
shies away from criticism i try to figure out what i did wrong and try to regroup
and figure out how to
approach it again and in jack's defense uh you know i think he's very open to
talking about anything
and also he's also very open for self-criticism i mean he was openly discussing
what they're doing
wrong where they need to be clear where they need to get better i don't believe
any of it you don't
i don't trust that guy not at all um you know why don't you trust him i mean
first of all there's
the obvious thing that he's running these a bunch of companies i i could be
wrong but i believe he
actually left twitter he wasn't the ceo for a while they brought him back in or
something
but it either sounds like probably check on that yeah yeah you know i i try to
avoid asserting
things that i'm not 100 sure on but me too but i do it all the time anyway
right right uh
jack says things like he said to you he said to congress i believe he said to
congress um
we don't ban people based on the content we ban people based on their conduct
yes okay you you
literally have a a terms of service that banned specific content like what do
you mean you don't
maybe based on content there's uh you know i'll just get into naming some
people right megan murphy
for example is a feminine megan murphy is she okay she's that woman that with
the whole issue with uh
men aren't women right right so so here's what this is what's important she was
responding to
please explain that so this could be standalone because we talked about it
yesterday with sam harris but
um so i don't know too much about megan murphy but she's a feminist she's a
what they call a
trans exclusionary radical feminist but i think that that might be offensive
says let's remember why
jack dorsey was fired as twitter ceo he was fired okay let's see what it says
this is in fortune
2008 yeah that was there wasn't even was there a twitter yeah yeah 2008 jesus
christ um dorsey's
management was so problematic twitter's board five this is an opinion piece
fired him in 2008 offering him a
passive chairman role and silent board seat 2010 he was founding swear square
he went rogue
okay so something happened you know it's funny as you called it an opinion
piece but do they
i don't know that's that's where we're at in journalism today well when someone
said well it
has to be an opinion piece when someone says was so problematic right i mean
that's an opinion
i mean the real facts are he was fired you know you could state the specific
reason that was stated
by the company and that would be a non-opinion piece but as soon as you flavor
it it's all opinion
right it is right yeah that is a that is an issue right with information the
distribution of
information that's flavored by opinion and ideology all of it yeah all of it
well we can talk about
that but i don't want to derail the no no i don't want to either yeah okay so
megan murphy
please explain it she was a feminist she said she's a so she's called a trans
exclusionary look i
understand this is offensive you know i guess calling someone a trans exclusionary
radical feminist i'm
assuming why is that why is that offensive it's just used in an offensive way i
suppose to her
offensive against against people like her yeah so there's intersectional feminists
right they tend
to be trans inclusive meaning that they believe that uh someone who's born biologically
biologically male
can compete with those biologically female if they transition if they take
hormones and things like
that can compete compete right like power lifting racing biking and stuff that's
where i step in
yeah you know i've seen some of the stuff you've talked about uh the trans
exclusionary group think
they shouldn't and they've said things that are considered to be part i say
considered to be
offensive i'm not trying to assert who's offended by it but um there's one uh
recent story where a
trans exclusionary radical feminist said that the trans rights movement is a
men's rights movement
right they say things like that yeah in the case of megan murphy she responded
to someone she said men
aren't women though that's not harassment right that was a conversation with
somebody else well it's
also a fact she was permanently banned well that's crazy right just saying men
aren't women okay out of
context just say it right there men aren't women who the fuck's going to argue
with that well then
when you say trans people okay now you're into gray area but actually but the
statement men aren't
women i mean well you'd have to take it in context right right right but this
is where we start getting
into the the nitty-gritty of i guess left-wing ideologies the culture war if
you go on wikipedia
and you look up man it will tell you a man is an adult human male right but if
you look up trans man
it will say a trans man is a man and so the trans section of wikipedia is at
odds factually with the
man section so so the reason i bring this up is that when it comes to twitter
then we can clearly
see the bias twitter says you can't misgender someone and presumably that's why
megan murphy
was banned okay that's a left-wing ideology right but that's not is she was she
talking about a
specific human i think she was i think they were having a conversation about
somebody i don't know the
full details uh details but i gotta say look right now people are being banned
or suspended for saying
learn to code okay that's yeah what is that about you explain that to me too
and i saw a few people
getting but should we start one at a time should we yeah let's stick with megan
well i mean i think
we've we've we've reached that the point of megan right she was banned for
having a conversation
and saying men aren't women though that was the quote men aren't women though
right so and they're
saying that they would never ban someone for content they banned them for
behavior right so
if what is that behavior that i have no idea right like listen if you are using
twitter the way twitter
was designed to engage and respond to people is that bad conduct it can't be
conduct it literally can't
be conduct well not only that aren't you allowed to have opinions that are in
fact based in biology
yes you should be and i should point out before we go any further before you
get called alt-right
you've you're very left right um i you know i typically say center left center
left like uh
oh god people were saying how many times someone commented how many times will
tim mention he's a
social liberal like i'm center left uh i was a big fan of bernie you know uh bernie
sanders he's
still one of my favorite politicians uh people then call me a socialist you
know conservatives call me left
the left calls me right whatever you know these labels are so fucking toxic it's
so confusing to
people and it causes so much so much division between two sides that might not
even differ that
much you know the funny thing about it is i got my start during occupy wall
street and conservatives
called me far left because i was reporting on the protests what they were doing
police brutality
right the arrests they said this is a far left activist now that i'm i've
always been critical
of the more extreme factions like i've got interviews from seven you know six
seven years ago where i'm
critical of these people now all of a sudden they're accusing me of being alt-right
for being critical
of extremists and masks you know starting fires and things like or alt-right
adjacent that's my new favorite
yeah bootlicker alt-right adjacent oh bootlicker bootlicker that's that's you
know there's a lot of phrases
that people use that mean literally nothing bootlicking um one of my favorites
is to keep
in the context of twitter they say freedom of speech freedom of speech does not
mean freedom from
consequence that literally doesn't mean anything it literally means nothing
yeah well that's just
trying to skirt around freedom of speech that's what that is so what ends up
happening but but you
agree with that like you should be able to speak your mind but you there's
certain consequences
certain things that you say if i throw this bottle at the wall there's a
consequence that's a physical
motion if i drink this water there's a consequence i'll go to the bathroom
right so to sit to point
out that actions have consequence is not actually addressing any of the issues
it's just literally
saying nothing but it's it's it's almost it's just like you can predict when
someone will say it
and it's usually when a specific person is banned they'll say freedom of speech
freedom of consequence
all that stuff they don't say it when it's their people they say you know
course yeah but but this
is true too in in talking about twitter censorship there are people on the left
who have been banned
unjustly and this is where it gets