Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1254 - Dr. Phil
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Joe Rogan Experience #1254 - Dr. Phil

Five, four, three, two, one.
Is it hanging up on me?
We're live? We're live.
Dr. Phil, we're live.
Someone's calling you. What's going on?
Some of those people I was trying to find,
now they're saying, oh, shit.
Yeah, let them worry.
Out of all the years you've been doing your show
and all the years you've been giving advice,
how did this catch me outside, girl?
How did this happen?
Oh, God.
I mean, out of all the different shows,
out of all the different shows, you made a monster.
I know. I mean, it's my moment of infamy.
Seriously, this girl comes on with her mother,
and her mother actually brings her on, of course,
and she's a train wreck,
and we work with her, and we send her to this ranch.
She goes for like four months, right?
She goes for a long time and makes a complete turnaround,
does really a great job.
They say she's become a leader.
She's working with all these girls, doing a great job,
and then she graduates,
and I remember this last shot when we do this piece at the ranch.
She jumps up on this fence and is smiling and everything and waving and all.
One night home with her mother, one night,
and her mother's finding people that are trashing her,
the mother on these social media platforms.
Her mother tracks them down, backs into who they are,
gets their phone numbers, calls them up,
yelling into the phone, calling them names and stuff,
gets the daughter involved.
One night, crashes.
So they come back for a follow-up,
like, I don't know, a month or two later,
and when they come, I say,
okay, we're going to have them back.
They walk out.
I have the audience completely empty.
I have nobody there to play to.
I mean, 250 chairs, empty,
nobody in the house but me, the mother, and the daughter.
That's a good move.
And they go, where is everybody?
I say, well, you don't need anybody.
We're just here to talk and keep things rolling, right?
And they were dumbstruck.
There was nobody there to showboat for or play to,
and that was like a 15-minute interview.
They had nothing to say.
And off they go,
and then this phrase that got turned into a,
you know, whatever, a meme or whatever they call it,
it just went crazy.
And what?
She was nominated for a Grammy or something?
Serious?
I'm serious.
So I take no credit or blame.
You know, I just did what I could
and haven't seen her since.
I wish everybody well.
Maybe she'll turn,
maybe it'll grow her up,
she'll turn something positive out,
but I hope so.
Well, that's a very good attitude,
very healthy attitude for you.
But it is,
when something goes viral like that,
something strange that for whatever reason
it catches and takes off,
it doesn't make any sense.
It's a very weird thing.
It makes no sense.
She's on a billboard on Sunset,
a giant billboard.
Oh, really?
Huge.
Enormous billboard.
It's like one of those
side-of-the-building billboards
where they put the graphic up
and it covers the entire building.
It makes no sense.
Seriously?
Seriously.
There's people curing cancer
and you can't find them
with both hands.
Exactly.
Nobody has any idea
who won the last Nobel Prize
for science.
But, you know,
more power to her.
If she can turn in
something positive,
does she have talent?
Have you ever heard
any of her music or anything?
No, I have no idea.
I've only seen her
on your show
say,
catch me outside.
Yeah, I appreciate
you bringing that up.
Sorry.
But it's just so strange
that one train wreck
could, for whatever reason,
catch on
and then all of a sudden
it's gigantic.
Yeah, they say
that somebody signed her
and paid her millions of dollars.
Seriously.
Yeah, she got like
close to a million dollars
from a makeup company.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, well, okay.
There you go.
I mean,
if that's happening, right,
what would your advice be then?
Would your advice be,
hey,
get your shit together
and stop being crazy?
Well,
she's making a lot of money
off of being crazy
and her opportunities
before that
were probably severely limited.
Well, they had to be
and what I hope now
that this,
even though this certainly
is a quirk,
what I hope now
is that
she's surrounded
by mature people
with business heads
on their shoulders
and development people
that will actually
guide this in a way
that it's not 15 minutes.
Right.
Yeah.
You never know.
That's what I hope.
Well, everybody thought
the Kardashians
were going to be 15 minutes
and it's been 15 years.
Yeah.
But there's been,
you know,
people make fun of them
and there's some good things
there to make fun of.
They do things
to be made fun of.
But there's also
some very smart business
and branding
that's gone into that as well.
Oh, 100%.
And, you know,
and I was actually
very impressed with her
that she actually went
to the White House
to talk about prison reform
for people that are
unjustly accused
and have been in jail
for too long
for things that they didn't do.
And that's something
she's actually passionate about.
Yeah.
And I know Kim
and she's actually
a very nice girl,
very smart
and all.
And, you know,
as I say,
they've done some
very brilliant branding
and it certainly paid off.
It's just so fascinating
when something catches
like that girl.
What is her name?
The Catch Me Outside girl.
Danielle Bregoli
or something.
Something like that.
Yeah.
Because I didn't know her
as the Catch Me Outside girl.
But if she didn't say
that one phrase.
Yeah.
And she just said that,
I think,
to her grandmother
or somebody in the audience.
I don't know.
It didn't even register
with us at the time.
Wow.
It wasn't a
standout phrase
in the interview
or anything.
It just passed by.
Somebody just grabbed it.
And then it became a meme.
Yeah.
What a weird world
we live in.
Yeah.
No kidding.
What is it?
I mean,
it has to be
a lot of responsibility
to try to give people advice
and try to straighten
their life out
and show them
the flaws
and the errors
that they're making.
Yeah, it is.
And, you know,
people ask me sometimes,
they say,
you know,
Dr. Field,
are problems,
do you think problems
are as simple
as you make them out to be?
And the truth is,
I don't think problems
are simple at all.
In fact,
I think problems
are really,
most of the time,
pretty complex.
They're pretty layered.
They have a lot
of different origins.
And they're oftentimes
comorbid.
A lot of things
exist together.
So I don't think
problems are simple at all.
But the solutions
are often simple,
don't you think?
I mean,
it's kind of like
the old joke,
you go to the doctor
and you say,
this hurts.
And he says,
well,
then don't do that anymore.
You know,
it's,
a lot of times
it's very simple
in that somebody
will have a complex thing
that comes from childhood
or maybe it's
a drug background
or they've had trauma
in their life.
But the solution
is change your behavior.
I mean,
stop rewarding
bad behavior.
Choose a different
path in life.
Just behave your way
to success.
Sometimes the solutions
are very simple
even though the problems
are very complex
because at some point
you have to stop
focusing on why
and start focusing
on what.
Instead of why it happened,
what am I going to do
to change it?
So sometimes
the solutions
are pretty simple.
But implementing
those solutions
are often very,
it's often very difficult
for people to change
their lives,
change their patterns.
It is.
And patterns
is the key.
You know,
nobody does anything
in pattern
if they don't get a payoff.
And if you can identify,
that's why,
that's why insight
is so important.
That's why I think
it's the number one outcome
to whether somebody
is going to respond
to a talking therapy,
for example.
If somebody
can identify
what their payoff is,
where they really
can figure out,
I'm doing this repeatedly
and my payoff is,
I don't have to work
or I don't get held
accountable for this
or I'm escaping
accountability over here
or I get attention
or sympathy.
If they can figure out
what their payoff is
and they can then
control that,
whether it's for themselves
or their kids
or whatever,
if you control the currency,
then you can control
the behavior.
Yeah,
it just seems
that people have,
they have this comfort
in their patterns
and even if their patterns
are self-destructive,
even if it's drug abuse
or alcoholism
or those,
the comfort in those patterns,
falling into those patterns,
it seems very compelling
to a lot of people.
Yeah,
and payoffs
don't necessarily mean
that it's a positive payoff.
Right.
I mean,
a payoff for taking heroin
is you get high
and so you're high for a while.
That's not a positive payoff
but it's a payoff.
Right.
And if you get high
and so you don't get a job
and you don't take care
of your kids,
that's a payoff
that you're not doing things
that you need to do
that you should be accountable for.
It's a pathological payoff
but it's a payoff nonetheless.
And so that does reward you
even though it's a pathological payoff,
it's a pathological thing,
you call it a reward.
And if you,
but if you can identify that
where they say,
look,
I'm not doing what I need to do
and I need to stop rewarding myself
in that way
and hold myself,
I need to be there for my kid.
I tell my kid
I'm going to be there every day
and I don't show up
because I'm high on drugs,
then, you know,
I need to stop doing it.
I need to not let myself
get away with that
and instead require myself
to show up for the kid
when I say I do,
say I will.
And then you see
what's in the kid's eyes,
you share the experience with them,
now that becomes your payoff
so then you'll start
showing up for your kid.
Yeah.
How many people
take your advice?
How many people just listened
and try for a little bit
and then bail?
You know,
it's hard to say
because I think
sometimes our most productive guest
are the ones
that don't get it
because the male we get,
they'll say,
oh, wow,
that guy didn't get it
or that woman didn't get it
but I saw myself in them
and I'll never say that again.
I saw them being
such a right fighter
or I saw them being
so hard-headed
or so oppositional
and I heard them say things
I've said
and they left
and didn't get it.
I got it.
I'll never do that again.
So sometimes
those that don't get it at all
while they're there
are the ones
that are the best teaching tools
for the millions of people
that are home watching.
Yeah, that's interesting,
isn't it?
When you watch people fail
and you go,
oh, okay,
I see that in myself.
Yeah.
I just got to not do
what that guy's doing
and then also do you see
the stubborn pig-headedness
that some people have
where they won't listen
to advice
and you could clearly see
how they're ruining
their lives
by not being honest.
Yeah, and sometimes
the story that we might have
is maybe extreme
where you say
I don't do all six things
they're doing
but I do two of them
and they are in sharp relief
to me
so I get that
I ain't gonna do that anymore
so, I mean,
that's where I think
you get a payoff
and, you know,
people go and find
these things on the internet.
I mean, last year
we have a channel
where we put up
different clips
from divorce shows
or parenting shows
or whatever
and we had over
two billion views
you know, last year
of people just going
and finding that information
and looking at it
so I know people
are seeking the information
out and looking at it
beyond the show itself
so, you know,
they must be seeking information
and we just don't have
a good distribution system
for mental health
in America
so I think they look
I think they're hungry for it
and they look for it.
Well, there's so many people
out there
that are trying to do better.
They're trying to get
their lives in order
and, you know,
shows like yours
and, you know,
just advice shows
people that are giving out
inspiration and knowledge
it's so
it's such an important thing
for people
especially for people
that didn't grow up
with wise parents
or maybe a good support system
around them.
You know,
I think that's true
and, you know,
I grew up with
an alcoholic father
and it was a pretty
violent home
and he was a really
bad alcoholic
and I know
having grown up
in that
you wind up
with what I call
a damaged personal truth
and you feel