Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1276 - Ben Shapiro
Uploaded: 2019-04-03T22:31:48.000Z
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1276 - Ben Shapiro' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2019-04-03. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1276 - Ben Shapiro

yes we're live Ben Shapiro hey how's it going dude very good how's it going
with you man it's
going well I love I love the new digs I haven't been here since you finished it
over and I walked
in I thought to myself I've been doing my business wrong I mean you got what
three employees yeah
there's not that many folks working on this yeah I mean so in my offices we
have like 80 and our
offices are not nearly this cool so I'm gonna go back to my office and fire
every have your folks
come in and design because I mean it's either a lot of people or I could have
cars in my office yeah
but you wouldn't go down this route you're you're more of a conservative
gentleman than myself you're
wearing a suit jacket you're your own boss nobody tells you how to dress and
yet you dress like a
grown-up yeah well you know I won't pretend that nobody tells me how to dress
we have people who
tell me how to dress we have people who do my hair do you have all that stuff
you have like fashion
folks yeah yeah because I used to I mean if you look at the old photos of me I
have like the Hitler
hair I've got like the hair that's the only thing about me that's hilarious was
my old hair and I've
got that the hair that kind of comes down over the forehead and I still walk
into the office wearing
basically an undershirt every day because I'm incredibly lazy when it comes to
that stuff but
we should be able to yeah I mean that's that's the prerogative of being the
boss maybe it'd be
more relatable maybe if you showed up wearing like flip-flops and t-shirt that
kind of kills
my brand though no does it like what is your brand exactly I thought I was
being an asshole
I don't think you're an asshole though thank you I appreciate it you're a very
nice guy you're just
conservative that's the dirty little secret though yeah we're not supposed to
we're not supposed to
talk about that but this is one of the things that bothers me so much about you
being so
misrepresented when I read things about you there was a the the article that we
were just talking about
the alt-right sage without the rage they called you and you're not even
remotely alt-right in fact you
were the leading target of anti-semitic abuse for all of 2016 weren't you yeah
according to the
anti-defamation league which is no ally of mine so yeah I mean I'm not only am
I not alt-right I've
spent the last four years like legitimately battling the alt-right talking
about how evil I think their
ideology is how evil I think white supremacy is I mean first of all like people
with yamaka is
typically not the favorites of the alt-right and then beyond that I mean I
think their ideology is
legitimately a devastatingly awful twist on what Western civilization is
supposed to be what was
amazing is a review of my new book and my new book has several sections and
they're dedicated to how
terrible the alt-right is and then the interview they did with me doesn't talk
about alt-right stuff
at all but they just assume I'm on the conservative right that must mean that I
am alt-right and it's
no you stupid it's a problem with those labels they're disingenuous people are
labeling people
in a very simple manner to try to categorize them as the enemy and instead of
just addressing these
points like I love watching your debates where you do Q&A's with college
students and with people in
the audience because you can see you agree with you or disagree with you you
have well formulated ideas
this isn't just some bullshit that you're spouting out you've thought these
things through I mean I've
been doing this for legitimately more than half my life I'm 35 and I started
when I was 17 and I
started writing a syndicated column at that point and when you're 17 you think
a lot of dumb stuff
and then sure you get older and you educate yourself and you spend a lot of
time reading and a lot of
time studying hopefully you have some cogent arguments after 20 years of doing
anything I mean
but it's the the demonization is pretty astonishing I mean we had an on Andrew
Yang he's the only
Democratic candidate who has agreed to go on the Sunday special that I do we
did a full hour on UBI it was
perfectly nice it was perfectly coherent and and and conciliatory and yet
people will suggest that
everything I do is about destroying people on the other side because of all the
Ben Shapiro destroys
videos and all that kind of stuff there's there are certain groups of people
where that's their
shtick they're like they're goons right they just go after people online for
attention yes this is a
shtick this is not you and this is what bothers me so much and I know that you've
said some things in the
past like particularly about Arabs and like when you were a younger man that
you said I shouldn't
have said that yeah that's exactly right that's exactly right some of those
things were taken out
of context like that one particular tweet which is a bad tweet was a tweet that
was part of a tweet
thread in which I was specifically contrasting Israel and the Hamas leadership
and saying that the
Israeli government likes to build and the Hamas leadership would prefer that
their citizens live in
and sewage and bomb things but that was a bad tweet obviously yeah my entire
history on on Muslim relations
is one like I supported the ability of Ilhan Omar to wear a hijab on the on the
floor I opposed President
Trump's originally proposed Muslim ban in the last three weeks I've had on Majib
Nawaz I've had on
Kanta Ahmed I had on yesterday a reform Muslim like these are conversations
that have to be had but to
take this is one of the things that bugs me so much I've I've tweeted I think a
hundred and forty
thousand times I've written millions of words I'm sure you can find something I
don't even remember
having written that is bad I have a running list by the way I try to be honest
about this I'm one of
the only people I know who has I have a running list it's called so here's a
giant list of all the dumb
stuff I've ever done right and I actually go through all this like you can look
it up this is not me
saying this now I mean you can go and look up all the things that I think I've
done wrong and I'll
apologize for some and I'll say some we're dumb and I'll say some I'm fine with
and you're just
taking out of context but I mean that I hope that's what honest people try to
do but this is the
problem you're not dealing with honest people with when people are trying to
categorize you as
alt-right or they're they're trying to put you into this category of internet
goon they're they and
they did quote tweet there's taking some little tiny phrase that you said seven
years ago and trying
to say this is you this is you now it's so that's such a disingenuous thing to
do I hate it and I
hate it across the aisle by the way like I was a defender of James Gunn I
thought James Gunn
shouldn't have been fired from Guardians of the Galaxy yeah dumb jokes that's
exactly right and even
with somebody tweeted something bad like 10 years ago bringing it up now is not
an attempt to actually
make the public space better and you're not actually offended by that thing the
person tweeted 10 years
ago that you didn't notice what it is that you want to get rid of this person
or hurt this person
so you're going to bring up something from 10 years ago and then you're going
to try and club them into
submission with it because if you actually ask them their opinion about it they
might have a more
nuanced view on what they said maybe they apologize maybe they think I don't
even remember saying that
right I mean I felt the same way by the way I try to be consistent I really do
about about this stuff
I've said the same thing about for example Ralph Northam the governor of
Virginia who is excoriated
for having this terrible racist photo on his yearbook page back in medical
school in 1987
and people are saying well this is evidence he's racist now it's like well no
that's evidence that
he was doing a racist thing then that's not evidence that he is racist now you
sort of have
to look over the broad course of his career and he ended up doing what everyone
now does which is
you just don't apologize for anything you just try to pass it off as a nothing
the public space is
actually getting worse because let's say that you did something bad in the past
there are a few human
responses to I did something I don't like in the past human response number one
is you know what I
apologize that was wrong these days that gets your face step done right you say
I apologize I was wrong
it means well why did you do it in the first place because you're a bad person
apologies are not
accepted and then number two is you brazen it out you do the Trump you know
well I never did anything
wrong ever I've never I'm perfect right and that and then you get your
defenders to come and surround
you and then nothing ever gets cleansed or opportunity number three is you do
what Barack Obama did which
is you come out preemptively and you try to remember all the bad stuff you do
and then you confess it
in public so in dreams for my father he says right well you know when I was
back in high school did a
little blow and everybody's like oh okay so you did cocaine when he was in high
school that's that's cool
whereas if it comes out during the campaign right then he's gone right then he's
got then he's got a real
problem the problem is that right now even if you preemptively come out and say
I did something wrong
like for example Liam Neeson talking about years ago when he had a racist
thought that he didn't act
on when he had a racist thought this is now we're gonna try and ruin your
career for something that
you admit was bad that you did 30 years ago we're gonna try and ruin you over
that if you apologize for
something that you did 30 years ago which you would have preferred just got
forgotten because it was
embarrassing and stupid then we say you're bad and so all you're left with is
like the most shameless
people in the world who are in the public space right the incentive structure
is to be deeply shameless
to just say yeah man I own that and it was great when I said it or I didn't say
it at all and you're
just you're just full of it I never said that stuff who are you gonna believe
your eyes or me and it
makes it makes for a really bad politics well it's just this the culture of of
going after people for
things and and finding anything to categorize them as someone who's a viable
target and this is what
I've seen thrust your way it's like there's nothing wrong with being
conservative there's something
wrong with wanting everyone to think the way you think though this is the
difference like you what I
like that you do is you debate your points you state your positions you have a
philosophy and what I
don't like is when people try to pretend that that philosophy is some somewhat
somehow hateful or
somehow regressive or something like you're that you condemn people for their
thoughts you you just
you don't this is what I not what I see with you I appreciate and I appreciate
the accuracy because I
think that's true I mean I've come out against virtually every Twitter ban
including people who have
personally targeted me I've come out against that I've come out against
virtually every what you know
let's talk about that because what do you what are your thoughts about this
idea of D platforming
and you know this is something that we were just discussing before the podcast
where the CEO of
YouTube and Kara Swisher yeah from Recode I think Kara Swisher they were
talking about removing you from
YouTube and I thought it was the CEO of YouTube it was actually Kara who said I
would if I could yeah
she's pissed because her son apparently listens to that's kind of funny if she's
being funny
saying I can't but it was it would I thought it was the CEO of YouTube no she's
trying to imply that
she was trying to do the same thing that they they do with you or with Dave Rubin
or Jordan Peterson
which is that