Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1282 - Adam Conover
Uploaded: 2019-04-17T19:00:00.000Z
Description: Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1282 - Adam Conover' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2019-04-17. Transcript available.

Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1282 - Adam Conover' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2019-04-17. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1282 - Adam Conover

is it good yeah
all right cut all this out right right right hello adam hey thanks for having
me hey thanks
for being here man i appreciate it i'm a giant fan of your show i really
appreciate that i love
the fact that it annoys people too it really pisses people off that's the goal
pretty much
you know i mean i'm not the kind of person where i'm like if you're pissing
people off you're doing
something right but there's some truth to that there's some truth to that and
also the way you
structured the name i mean i don't know if you came up with the name of it but
adam ruins
everything i think i might have to give that to my to my uh former boss sam reich
at college humor
might have might have uh i think we we came up with the name together he might
have been the first
person to say it but uh yeah thank you i'm really yeah it like lets you know it
lets you know that
hey this is gonna annoy you a little bit that like i'm gonna be telling you
shit that you don't want
to hear that's gonna make everything a little bit worse you know but at the end
of the day it makes
it better it's an optimistic show at the end of the day where sure yeah yeah
you you give them the
truth i think that yeah i mean the the the thesis of the show is that it's
always better to know the
truth that it's a momentarily uncomfortable but hopefully for most people 99 of
people who watch
the show it grinds your gears a little bit to find out something like oh i
thought that was true with
that ah crap you know but then at the end we show you why you're actually
better off knowing that
thing and you're always better off knowing the truth in my view yeah in my view
as well yeah is was
there ever and was there one episode that stands out as being one that people
got the most upset about
uh there's a bunch of them i mean people get people get upset with us for a lot
of different
reasons we did one about how um uh breastfeeding isn't uh better than formula
feeding it's uh no
they're both like formula feeding is fine you know and if the problem is
formula feeding has become
astigmatized now um and there's a lot of people who can't breastfeed or who for
medical reasons you know
uh and uh uh the fact is that formula formula is like a scientifically proven
wonderful way to feed
a baby and if you know someone's choice or need is to do that there's no reason
to stigmatize it we go
through all the reasons that that that's the case and yeah people get a little
you know there's a lot of
people who sort of have an ideology about that you know and uh don't want to
hear the truth about
it um we did one about uh trophy hunting uh animals about how because people
you know people get so mad
oh look at this guy shot a lion right and the truth is that uh in some
countries not 100 of the time
but in some countries they are effectively using trophy hunting as a way to to
uh protect the animals
because you know that's how they're able to sort of like monetize you know in
that place and uh you
know get money coming in in order to protect the animals and they're they're
very specific and strategic
about it and it can be part of a good you know sort of animal management you
know strategy and it's being
used to some success you know um and yeah people don't want to hear that right
it's still really hard
that's a weird one to me and i hunt yeah yeah that that that the whole the
whole lion and elephant
thing like right oh that's a weird one well what they can do is they can say
okay well we've got these
elephants one of these elephants is an old male that's like killing the other
elephants right and
if we organize these hunts where you got to pay half a million dollars for the
right to even go in
there does that happen with old male elephants i know that was the issue with
that giraffe that remember
that woman that got i actually don't know that specific case yeah there was a
there was a woman who
got in trouble because she shot this really beautiful giraffe it was really
dark and unusually colored and
it was dark because it was very old the older the giraffe apparently the males
get really dark
it was really cool looking um but she shot it and everybody went crazy on the
internet because you
know she was posing and smiling with this giraffe but apparently that giraffe
had to be killed because
it had killed at least two maybe three young males and it was no longer of a
viable breeding age so they
they were in this situation where they didn't have the money to take it and
bring it to a zoo somewhere
yeah and the they would have gotten money from having this woman come in and
shoot it yeah that's
what they did yeah that's sort of that's sort of the idea you know um i mean
one of the issues is
if you've got an area where you know one of the problems is you need to have a
reason for the
people who live in the place to care about the animals you know what i mean if
it's just like
hey the elephants are going to roam free well you've got people there who are
like all right
fine so i'm living near some elephants occasionally they eat my crops and
shit and that annoys me i don't really give occasionally yeah yeah exactly i
don't give a
shit about that and what that allows to happen is allows poachers to come in
and kill them wantonly
right but if instead okay we're protecting them we have a revenue stream right
we get money when
you know hunters come in and pay a lot of money to go kill one animal right now
we've got a way to
hire guards we've got a way this is now a resource that we're protecting right
and that sounds a little
cynical but it is working in some places and it's both it's cynical and
effective and effective and we have
a we we had a woman on from um uh the iucn international thinking union for
conservation
of nature big conservation group talking about how this is effective now in
some places if you've got
a corrupt government where they're just going to pocket the bunny yeah that's
bad right but the point
is just because the mere idea of someone going overseas and killing an animal
is not necessarily the
worst thing in the world we have to look at the details of the situation and
that's hard for animal
lovers to hear animal lovers don't like to hear that uh yeah they don't they
don't and i like i said i don't like to
hear it i wish i don't like to hear it either yeah i wish people would just it
just what freaks me out
more than anything is that there's no other options it's not like a bunch of
people are donating a
bunch of money to keep these areas clean and and free of poachers and the
amount would be massive
right we can we can donate money but yeah yeah that that's the when you've got
a problem that big
and intractable as how do you save these animals you know and against habitat
encroachment right again
you know people want to farm on that land people you know people have people
have lives right they're
not sitting around going the people in those countries not sitting around going
oh i love the
cute elephant like we have the luxury to do they like live there right and so
how do you get how do
you get those people in that society to to really protect those animals that's
a hard question to answer
and some places are having success with that strategy and that's something that
we can understand
we don't have to approve of it in every single case and we can say that's
really tough for us as
animal lovers and in fact the character who i'm talking to on the show says i
still just hate the
idea of an animal being killed right and i say yeah so do i right we try to
dramatize that emotional
you know resistance on the show like that emotional reaction that we have
yeah i i also don't like the idea of an animal being killed brutally you know i
think i'm
uncomfortable with the idea right but if my main goal is to preserve the
population of these animals
overall to stop them from going extinct maybe i need to accept that this tough
truth that once
in a time once in a while one's got to be shot through the head with a rifle
maybe i need to accept
that it's weird that's what i chose about it's really weird when it comes to
things that people
don't eat like lions yeah i don't understand the psychology you're like michael
douglas in the
what was that movie with uh val kilmer the ghost in the darkness that the the
lions that decided to
kill those dudes i've never heard of this movie it's a great movie man it's a
great movie the ghost
in the darkness yeah i feel like it's from the 90s but it's a really good movie
about a true story
about this guy that they brought they brought this michael douglas character
was brought in
to hunt these lions that were systematically targeting and killing these
workers that worked
on this railroad this team of lions worked together and started eating people
wow it's
a great movie and it's really good it sounds odd and they have to they have to
go after the lions
yeah they have to go kill these lions yeah there it is ghost in the darkness oh
holy hell biting
tension that is a great hunters fel kilmer is looking good there yeah that was
pre fatso
oh kilmer free when he went off the day it was too handsome he couldn't handle
anymore really good
looking guy too handsome um that's the problem he had to just go off the deep
end another one
people got really mad about this is weirdly the one we got the biggest reaction
to um and
to the extent that i'm a little hesitant talking about it because it always
starts to shift storm
every time i do vaccines uh no actually we've not done a whole one on vaccines
uh but we really
should because it's coming back i used to think that vaccines was like kind of
done as a topic and like
we've gone through it it is really it is really back and it is big um but no we
did one on alpha
males we had an episode about dating and we did one on how the idea of the
alpha male doesn't exist
in humans like if you talk to any anthropologist any biologist any sociologist
right and be like
are humans organized in a social relationship where there's alphas and betas
they'll be like no what are
you talking about this is an unscientific idea right and we just did something
laying that out and in
in the context of like people who are oh my type is i like alphas right well
there's no such thing
actually you know humans are some you're dominant in some situations not in
others right um it's an
overly simplistic way of looking at human relationships and i thought that was
a pretty simple straightforward
thing i was like this is a bit of pseudoscience that you hear people tossing
out and people went ballistic
on the internet because people have sort of like built a edifice of ideology in
their minds about
like there's alphas there's betas i'm an alpha this is what an alpha is like
this is what a beta is like
you know um and uh let's take away the words yeah they're they're clearly men
who are more aggressive
and athletic and dominant and more confident and and then men who are introverted
and shy and more nervous and
anxious and there's a scale in some in some situations you know um social
situations yeah
and that's what we're talking about right in social well yeah but your social
situation could change
based on what situation you're in you know what i mean like but a like an
athletic confident
male is always going to be an athletic confident male and an introverted
anxious male who has problems
with social anxiety is going to be the same that's that that's who that person
well i don't think so
necessarily um but so when we're talking about al we're talking about alphas
right um in animals
what is that it's a social hierarchy right um when animals in yeah let's take
away that word i mean
what but what people are using to describe when they're saying alphas and betas
they're saying like
confident strong secure people and people that are anxious and not so if you're
so if you're trying to
say hey like it's good to be confident it's not so great to be anxious like
that's that that's fine right
but when peop