Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1315 - Bob Lazar & Jeremy Corbell
Uploaded: 2019-06-21T03:00:00.000Z
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1315 - Bob Lazar & Jeremy Corbell' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2019-06-21. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1315 - Bob Lazar & Jeremy Corbell

Two, one, boom. And we're live. First of all, cheers, gentlemen. Let's have a
little toast.
Relax. Bob, thank you very much for doing this. I really appreciate it. I
understand
that you've told this story many, many times. You've been grilled many, many
times and it's
very stressful for you. So I really, really appreciate your time. For people
who don't
know the story, there is a documentary. Jeremy Corbell has a documentary out
right now. It's
called Bob Lazar, Area 51, and UFOs. And flying saucers. And flying saucers.
Bob Lazar, Area 51,
and flying saucers. I first heard your story decades ago. I told you last night
when we went
out to dinner. I've seen pretty much every interview you've ever given. I've
followed
the story incredibly closely. But for people who don't know the story, let's
give them the bullet
points. You used to work at Area 51. And Area 51, go ahead. You went like, huh?
Well, you know, we want to be accurate. Area S4.
S4. Okay.
It's about 15 miles south of Area 51.
Okay. You worked in, what would you, how would you describe it?
I guess within the Area 51 compound, you can call that a subset of Area 51.
And you got that job. Before that, you were working?
Before that, I had worked at Los Alamos National Labs in New Mexico.
And you were involved in what kind of work?
Nuclear weapon development, physics. I mean, they do everything there.
So how do they approach you to say, hey, Bob, why don't you come on out to the
Nevada desert?
Well, the way this went down was, at that time, it was 1982, I had put a jet
engine in my Honda.
And Los Alamos put it on the front page of the paper.
He said, you know, Los Alamos man, physicist at the lab, you know, built this
200 mile an hour, you know, Honda jet car.
I drove to work every day.
So I was known in Los Alamos, the guy with the weird car.
And, you know, you could hear it from, you know, a mile away.
Anyway, the day that came out on the front page of the paper was the day Edward
Teller, the father of the hydrogen bomb, was giving a lecture down there at the
lab.
And we didn't have much going on that day in our group.
And I asked if I could go down there.
And I went down there early.
And Ed Teller was outside, leaning on a brick wall there and reading the front
page of the paper.
Now, this is a guy out of history.
So I introduced myself.
Hey, I'm the guy you're reading about there.
And we talked for a little while.
And it was cool.
You know, fast forward to years later, I had moved out to Las Vegas and had,
you know, left Los Alamos and, you know, went on to other things.
And I wanted to get back into the scientific community.
You know, I left to start other businesses and that sort of thing.
So I sent resumes out and one of them went out to Ed Teller and referenced our
meeting, you know, back in the day.
And anyway, he remembered me and gave me a reference, somebody to contact at EG&G.
And that's pretty much how it started.
So you get a phone call or a letter?
Like, what do you get?
Well, I got a – what did I get?
I got a letter initially and went down for an interview probably a couple times.
And it was down at EG&G Special Projects, which was at McCarran Airport at that
time in Las Vegas.
And did they give you any sort of job description of what you were applying for?
They said it was for – I can't remember exactly what they did.
This was a long time ago.
But I think it was advanced propulsion or something like that, something
relatively generic.
And they said it's in a remote area.
You know, it's going to be some days on, some days off.
And, you know, it was kind of a – it was kind of not exactly a full-time job,
but you might have to be out there for two weeks at a time and take two weeks
off.
So it was kind of a – the work schedule would be kind of broken up.
And did this seem attractive to you or did it seem weird?
No, it really wasn't weird because people that work at the test site, anybody
that's familiar with the area up there,
you know, working at the nuclear test site or at the Tonopah test range north
of there.
That's typically how things go.
So you had known about it from the scientific community?
Because Area 51 at that time was still classified.
No, they didn't say anything about Area 51.
Okay.
So they just –
They just said it was in a, you know, in a remote location and you just know it
was up at the test site.
So – but there was no mention of Area 51 at that time.
So they've done hundreds of nuclear tests in Nevada.
Nevada, that whole area was – there's been – there's giant chunks of Nevada
that people –
Yeah, there's a big piece of Nevada and it's split up into different areas.
There's a nuclear test site.
There's Area 51.
There's the Tonopah test range north of that.
There's little sub-areas.
There's areas where they test chemical weapons and things like that.
So it's all broken up as a, you know, gigantic test area.
So take me back to first day on the job.
You accept the job.
They take you out there.
Yeah.
It's – the first day really – I didn't really get to see a whole lot.
The first day was essentially just paperwork.
That's when I flew into Area 51 proper.
And I left McCarran Airport and flew what they call the Janet flights.
Just, you know, a passenger plane from Las Vegas to Area 51.
And it was really just going through a mountain of paperwork that day, from
security clearances to – god, there was – it was like two or three hours of
just solid paperwork.
And that was – that was really an uneventful first day.
When did things get weird?
When did you realize – like, at what point in time did you say, hey, this is
not normal work?
Like, this doesn't even seem like it's from this planet.
That – I can't tell you what day that occurred on because so much time has
gone by.
The days have kind of fused into one and I can't separate the days.
Was it a slow burn or was there a moment of recognition?
Well, the first inkling I had was when I came in – there's this facility that
is at S4.
It's in the side of a mountain.
And normally we had pulled in with the bus and gone around the front through a
normal double door.
This time that I went in, there were hangar doors open.
I went into the hangar door and in the hangar door was the disc, the flying
saucer that I worked on.
I saw it sitting there and we walked by it.
It had a little American flag stuck on the side.
And I thought, oh, my God, this finally explains all the flying saucer stories.
This is just an advanced fighter and this is fucking hilarious.
Right.
So I went by.
I slid my hand alongside it.
I got reprimanded immediately for touching the thing.
And there was a guy, an armed guard that followed us in and just said, keep
your eyes forward and your hands at your side and just walk in the door.
So that was the first time I had seen anything that was weird.
It was sometime later that I was introduced to my lab partner, Barry.
And we had some of the subcomponents of the craft in the lab.
And Barry was very anxious to get a new lab partner.
So he was very talkative and couldn't wait to show me different things.
And it was in the demonstration of the reactor working where it caught my
attention to where this is technology that doesn't even exist.
So, I mean, that was the first time I knew that this is really something
different.
What was it?
What was it?
What was it about this reactor that made you think that it didn't exist technologically?
Well, it was the – I actually have to back up because there were some briefings
that I read it before that that, you know, certainly gave me the impression
that this was going to be a weird job.
But this was the first hands-on thing.
This was a small reactor about the size of a hemisphere about the size of a
basketball on a metal plate.
And when it was running, it produced a gravitational field, a gravitational
field of its own.
Now, this is something that we can't do.
We can't produce any gravity.
The only way we get gravity is from large quantities of mass.
But there's no machine we can have that turns on that makes gravity like, you
know, you can turn on an electromagnet and it makes a magnetic field.
We can't make a gravitational field.
Anyway, this device was producing that.
And Barry said, almost like he was bragging, go ahead, try and touch the sphere.
And I couldn't.
It pushed my hands away, just like two light poles of a magnet.
So that was –
So like when you take two magnets and you're trying to press them together in
there?
Push against each other?
Yeah, you have that kind of cushioned feeling.
But you can't get them together.
The closer you put them, the more they push.
And you felt that physically with your hand?
With my hand.
Yeah, now there's nothing that does that.
And that immediately caught my attention going, wow, this is something else.
What was your thought?
Like when you felt that and you knew that there was nothing that you were aware
of that could produce this?
That connected me to the briefings that I read on the first day at S4 was that,
you know,
everything that I had read was apparently accurate.
And what were you reading?
I read – it was kind of an overview.
This project was to back engineer the alien craft.
And specifically it was to try and back engineer and see if we can duplicate
the technology with available materials.
Now to do this, they split the project into, you know, many different pieces
for several reasons.
And they do this on all classified projects.
So nobody has the complete story.
But they compartmentalize everything.
Now we had the power and propulsion system.
So what the briefings they gave me were like a one or two page overview of some
of the other projects that were going on, you know, on the craft.
The only reason they do that is just in case what you're working on is
connected intimately in some way that we don't know of to one of the other
projects.
You have to know their – excuse me – their existence.
So, you know, I – again, everything from metallurgy to, you know, weapon
potential, the craft.
And these were all, you know, essentially very short briefings.
But mine was just power and propulsion.
And it made it very clear that what I read was accurate.
So when you're reading that, before you actually saw the reactor, what were
your thoughts on what they were describing?
If you knew that something like that didn't exist and they're describing it in
the briefings, what did you think you were going to see?
I really – I didn't know at the time.
I mean, I was reading – I thought, is this some kind of test?
See if you're crazy?
Well, not to see if I'm crazy.
You know, a lot of times they'll take in real high security jobs.
I mean, they'll intentionally insert nonsense into them.
Whether it's to confuse the fact or if for someone was to leak it out, they
would carry that information along and know where it came from.
So I read through the documents.
But, you know, I didn't know if this was, you know, part of some kind of test
or, you know, or what?
Or was it potentially realistic?
I mean, I really didn't consider it being all that possible as far as being the
actual thing that I was going to work on at the time.
How did they turn it on?
The reactor?
Yeah.
The reactor can be turned on or turned off in a lot of different ways.
The way Barry showed me, the hemisphere is removed.
There's a small tower in the middle.
When you put the hemisphere on, the reactor activates.
The reactor shuts down.
It's load sensing.
So if there's no load on the reactor at all, it shuts down.
When there's a load present on it, it starts up again.
Load meaning?
You can consider it an electrical load.
So although it doesn't necessarily operate electrically, there's no wiring that
connects any of the subcomponents together whatsoever.
They just have to be in the immediate vicinity.
The stuff is borderline magic.
And that's essentially where we left it, you know, when I left the project.
So there was no progress made?
There was some progress.
I mean, we did identify, at least we think, some pro